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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:58 PM Jul 2016

Pope says it wrong to identify Islam with violence

Source: Reuters

Pope Francis said on Sunday that it was wrong to identify Islam with violence and that social injustice and idolatry of money were among the prime causes of terrorism.

"I think it is not right to identity Islam with violence," he told reporters aboard the plane taking him back to Rome after a five-day trip to Poland. "This is not right and this is not true."

Francis was responding to a question about the killing on July 26 of an 85-year-old Roman Catholic priest by knife-wielding attackers who burst into a church service in western France, forced the priest to his knees and slit his throat. The attack was claimed by Islamic State.

"I think that in nearly all religions there is a always a small fundamentalist group," he said, adding "We have them," referring to Catholicism.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-islam-idUSKCN10B0YO

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deathrind

(1,786 posts)
3. He is absolutely right.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

Each of the 3 dominant religions have fundamentalist that commit horrible crimes on people.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
8. I agree.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jul 2016

The world has a voluminous and troubling history that is well documented of what happens when religion is in charge of creating and enforcing laws on a society.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
14. It is not just the "Big Three"
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:36 AM
Aug 2016

Buddhism, Hinduism, and Sikhism all have some pretty vicious, bloodthirsty adherents as well.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. Muslims In France Attend Mass In Gesture of Solidarity After Church Attack
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jul 2016


A Muslim faithful woman sits as she attends a Mass in tribute to priest Jacques Hamel at the Saint-Leu Saint-Gilles Bagnolet's Church, near Paris on Sunday. Thomas Samson /AFP/Getty Images

July 31, 2016
2:25 PM ET
MERRIT KENNEDY

In a show of solidarity, Muslims across France are attending Catholic Mass on Sunday after the brutal murder of a priest.

Two men attacked a church in the small town of Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen on Tuesday, and slit 85-year-old Jacques Hamel's throat, as we reported. The attack was later claimed by the Islamic State through its Aamaq news agency.

As AFP reported, the French Muslim council CFCM called for the gesture "to show their 'solidarity and compassion' over the priest's murder."

"We are all Catholics of France," said CFCM head Anouar Kbibech, according to the BBC.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/31/488139526/muslims-in-france-attend-mass-in-gesture-of-solidarity-after-church-attack

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
7. one could identify other religions with violence, with just as much justification
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jul 2016

One notorious example is when Popes launched the Crusades against the Muslims in order to distract people from problems at home. In the US, the KKK claims to be a Christian group, but has murdered thousands of blacks. And the Jewish writings are full of accounts of massacres by them against neighboring peoples, supposedly ordered by God. I have heard people justify the American massacres of the American Indians on the ground that the Indians were not Christian. And in India, Hindus murder Muslims, and Muslims murder Hindus. And in Europe, Catholics murdered Protestants, and vice versa...

Igel

(35,317 posts)
13. That was done.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jul 2016

Christianity's been thoroughly insulted in US textbooks and classrooms.

That's okay, I guess. (Yes, it offended a lot of people, but they were told to stuff it. They lacked the bona fides to receive empathy and sympathy, I guess.)

Most of the debate focuses on ideas of false consciousness. No, the poor little dears really don't understand why they do what they do. One day perhaps we educated, enlightened Westerners will tell our own neandertals and all those abroad what their real motives have always been--and let them discover that our beliefs and ideologies really are superior. Call it the West Man's burden.

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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. Well, he got that partly right...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:53 AM
Aug 2016

there is almost always -at least- a small group of fundamentalists. Sometimes it's not so small.

And in the end it seems to really not be so much a matter of how big a religion's fundamentalist population is, but hunges on if they are 'our' fundamentalists or 'their' fundamentalists.


FigTree

(347 posts)
19. And one can idenitfy violence with any ideology.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:54 PM
Aug 2016

Because ideologies, as opposed to theories, reject argument and feedback from reality and thus cannot rely on anything else than coercion, violence if need be, to maintain their coherence and therefore to exist.

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