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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:08 PM Aug 2016

Fox News Poll: Clinton leads Trump by 10 points

Source: Fox News

After the conventions, the Clinton-Kaine ticket leads the Trump-Pence ticket by 10 points (49-39 percent) in the race for the White House. Clinton’s advantage is outside the poll’s margin of error. A month ago, Clinton was up by six points (44-38 percent, June 26-28).

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/03/fox-news-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-10-points-both-seen-as-flawed.html



Clinton 49
Trump 39

Panic approaches.



Sorry to post to Fox but they have the first post convention polls

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Fox News Poll: Clinton leads Trump by 10 points (Original Post) GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 OP
Keep running that mouth, Big Boy! Cryptoad Aug 2016 #1
Is that where it's comin' out? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #2
u r right,,,I stand corrected Cryptoad Aug 2016 #5
Fox News... Dopers_Greed Aug 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #26
Will "The Donald" accuse Fox of shilling for Hillary? He's already disparaging the polls that he.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #4
Of course he will 7962 Aug 2016 #13
He is the laying the groundwork for some nastiness in Nov. He's questioning any poll that doesn't.. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #16
Good thing the President GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #18
+1 Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #20
Damn straight nt 7962 Aug 2016 #23
But but the Olympics will bring Hillary down because Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #6
Actually, Olympics fever might make some people forget about Trump. LonePirate Aug 2016 #10
The predictions on this page are better every time I look at them! Chemisse Aug 2016 #7
Look at the evangelicals! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #8
I wanna see it broken down by age and IQ. truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #9
I would too! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #11
Just out of memory GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #19
question about demographics triron Aug 2016 #15
Good point! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #17
I wonder Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #24
White evangelicals are largely racist assholes. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #28
How will Fox News play this? left-of-center2012 Aug 2016 #12
On the office TV today for 4 hours, they mentioned it every news cycle, 7962 Aug 2016 #14
Is Fox trying to stop the monster they helped create? n/t left-of-center2012 Aug 2016 #21
If you ask Trump, they've BEEN out to get him! 7962 Aug 2016 #22
Wow. First time that I can remember that I've intentionally Amimnoch Aug 2016 #25
The comments are pretty amazing Lebam in LA Aug 2016 #27
Heads must be exploding over on the Ailes Channel adigal Aug 2016 #29
Groan MFM008 Aug 2016 #30
Increase your effort, don't stop for a moment bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #31

Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #3)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
4. Will "The Donald" accuse Fox of shilling for Hillary? He's already disparaging the polls that he....
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:21 PM
Aug 2016

used to boast about.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
16. He is the laying the groundwork for some nastiness in Nov. He's questioning any poll that doesn't..
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:23 PM
Aug 2016

show him with a lead, and suggesting that if he doesn't win, that it will be because the system is rigged. That can't bode well if he loses. Some of his more rabid supporters have heard his dogwhistles, and might just act out.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. Good thing the President
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:25 PM
Aug 2016

Is making room in prison by releasing non violent offenders.

Anyone using violence when they lose an election should be tried for sedition.

Kingofalldems

(38,406 posts)
6. But but the Olympics will bring Hillary down because
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:27 PM
Aug 2016

everyone will be focused there and Trump will come back and......

LonePirate

(13,402 posts)
10. Actually, Olympics fever might make some people forget about Trump.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:51 PM
Aug 2016

If he miraculously controls himself, some might forget the Trump which existed before the Olympics.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
8. Look at the evangelicals!
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:36 PM
Aug 2016

Trump is the choice among whites by 10 points (49-39 percent), men by 5 (45-40 percent), white evangelical Christians by 50 (69-19 percent), and whites without a college degree by 16 (52-36 percent).

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
11. I would too!
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:53 PM
Aug 2016

If you take the white evangelicals out, it looks like the remaining whites would slightly favor Clinton.

The percentage of evangelicals is supposedly around 35%, so I did a rough estimate this way:

0.35 * (69/88) + 0.65 * X = 49/88 and solved for X.

That gives a very rough estimate of 45% to 43% in favor of Clinton among white non-evangelicals.

That still bothers me!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Just out of memory
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:30 PM
Aug 2016

But I think Mittens did 10 points better than this with whites and still lost. That is why the republicans all said after '12 that they had to do better with minorities and were briefly working toward immigration reform.

Then Cruz and the tea party nuts bought that to a halt. And now their strategy depends doing even better with whites than Romney did. Which is not going to happen. And whites are like 2% less of he population. That is why I have always been cautiously optimistic. If the Dems do a decent job of getting out the vote it is over.

If Hillary wins 70% of all other races it is over. And she will do better than that.

triron

(21,980 posts)
15. question about demographics
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:18 PM
Aug 2016

Not sure I believe the numbers for "whites". What percentage of voters are white? Anyone have info on that? Also cross tabs would be more informative if there were numbers or percentages of the actual polled population by race breakdown. How does Trump win whites by 10 if Clinton is overall 10 ahead??

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
24. I wonder
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:57 PM
Aug 2016

... if the pollsters asked people if they wanted to remain on the phone to answer questions about their gender, race, etc., and some respondents told them no?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. White evangelicals are largely racist assholes.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:57 PM
Aug 2016

Preserving white supremacist is the foundational purpose of the political evangelical movement.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. On the office TV today for 4 hours, they mentioned it every news cycle,
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:04 PM
Aug 2016

so they're not running from it. Hell, if they didnt want to they didnt HAVE to even report it!!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. If you ask Trump, they've BEEN out to get him!
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:50 PM
Aug 2016

I still say he never thought he'd get this far and now he doesnt know how to get out of it

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
25. Wow. First time that I can remember that I've intentionally
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:05 PM
Aug 2016

Clicked a link to Fox news.

D.e.l.i.c.i.o.u.s.

bucolic_frolic

(42,980 posts)
31. Increase your effort, don't stop for a moment
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:00 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary has upside potential with voters in her rallies around the country.
She's very personable and believable, and talks well ad lib. She could
only be derailed by new and outside bad news. Trump's refrains against
her are old and tired already.

Trump has little upside potential with rallies. He is old news at this point.
TV advertising could make inroads nationally or at state levels, but he
won't sway many Democrats. I don't think Independents will break
outside the 44% range one way or the other.

The Democratic Party is given little credit for their firestorm campaigns
of 2008 and 2012. Was it Obama for America? They were on top of everything,
every news cycle, rapid-response to everything, setting the agenda. Trump
does not set agenda. He doesn't know there is one. He just seeds paranoia,
hate, mistrust, fear.

We're in good shape. GOTV. Stimulate the electorate, motivate, talk family
and values and hopes and dreams. Republicans have ceded the positive
aspects of life. We own it.

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