Trump Critics Urge RNC To Replace Trump In Special Meeting
Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Desperate conservatives have circulated a petition calling for the Republican National Committee to host a special meeting where Donald Trump could be replaced as the party's presidential nominee.
Organizers - some of the same Republicans who tried to prevent Trump from winning the GOP nomination - acknowledge the effort is a long shot at best. But fearing an Election Day disaster, they have appealed to RNC members across the nation in recent days to intervene.
"Desperate times call for desperate measures," Regina Thomson, executive director of a political action committee known as the GOP Accountability Project, wrote in an e-mail distributed to RNC members over the weekend and obtained by The Associated Press.
"Donald J. Trump is a disaster," Thomson wrote, attaching a copy of the petition in the message. "His post-convention behavior has been deplorable."
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_TRUMP_PETITION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-08-08-17-45-08
callous taoboy
(4,584 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)volstork
(5,399 posts)IS a flaming bag of dog shit...
Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)And demand an apology.
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)than Trump
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)and will be SO wonderful to watch this go down
sofa king
(10,857 posts)We can check the rules here:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf
But I've already spent a lot of time with them. The upshot is this: the Chairman of the RNC, Penis Rebus or whoever, can call a meeting at any time. In that meeting, they can change their procedures and rules in pretty much any way. We're talking Republicans here: rules exist to facilitate whatever the hell they want to do, not prevent them from doing it.
Rule No. 9 explains how replacing a candidate would work: call a meeting, not sooner than five days ahead, pretend to decide whether to hold another convention or not (they won't), then have the 150+ Members of the Committee pick Karl Rove's backdoor choice. States that buck up and resist have their delegate proxy votes split evenly among everyone else.
Note in particular what I mean about facilitating, not preventing. Here is the loophole they left for themselves:
The Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate for President of the United States...
"Or otherwise" can probably be as simple as having the Committee declare the candidate to be unqualified, "by reason of being an asshole," for example.
It's a court full of wolves in kangaroo clothing, and this is exactly what the Committee has wanted all year. They can get it done, and they can get it done by next Friday, easily.
I still think they will. I still think Trump is going to be "persuaded" to resign this Friday. But I'll tell you the truth: as long as he stays fifteen points behind, I'll be disappointed to see him go, because this is shaping up to be the biggest landslide I've ever seen.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)I don't think that the RNC will replace Trump, for the simple reason that it's too late for anybody else to step in and be guaranteed to win at this point. The RNC won't go to all that trouble - upsetting their base - to lose anyway.
They've written off the White House this year. I think they wrote it off years ago. The RNC likes having a Democrat to blame.
They're worried about the Senate, House and gubernatorial races now.
denbot
(9,899 posts)For roughly 30 years the Right has flung so much bullshit that their base lives in a separate universe. This the GOP's information game via Radio, Fox, etc keeps their mostly working class, rural, and white voters angry. That anger has been the GOP's bread and butter since the 80's.
It took till now before a true grifter noticed all those rubes laying about, and in 3 short months The Dumpster used their own game against them, and picked the GOP's pocket of their working class base.
They can't cut him loose, he OWNs about 1/2 of the GOP voter base, and if usurped those true believers won't show up to the poles. Most republican leaders know this. That Huckster might let them go, but he won't let them go cheap.
If you think you've seen what a vindictive snake Trump is, just wait and see what happens if the GOP tries to take the rubes back.
Donald would not hesitate to perform the equivalent of a political suicide bombing, right in the command tent of Camp GOP.
My guess they'll let this dumpster fire burn itself out come November, but one can dream they try and double cross him..
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)a full meeting must be called...and there are time lines involved. I have served on 2 non for profits BOD which are set up in similar fashion and the BOD can't change the rules without a full vote of the membership
sofa king
(10,857 posts)In Republican-land, it only takes about 112 people, plus another vote by 56 of the same people:
RULE NO. 12
Amendments
The Republican National Committee may, by three-fourths (3/4) vote of its entire membership, amend Rule Nos. 1-11 and 13-25. Any such amendment shall be considered by the Republican National Committee only if it was passed by a majority vote of the Standing Committee on Rules after having been submitted in writing at least ten (10) days in advance of its consideration by the Republican National Committee and shall take effect thirty (30) days after adoption. No such amendment shall be adopted after September 30, 2018.
https://ballotpedia.org/RNC_Standing_Committee_on_Rules
The Standing Committee on Rules is not the temporary Rules Committee that operated at the Convention. It sits within the 156-member RNC itself. RNC needs 10 days to call a meeting, but I would argue that the Standing Committee on Rules can propose an amendment on the same day that the meeting is called, because it's a Standing Committee. So if a meeting were called tomorrow, they could officially have a new candidate in as little as 40 days, and a functionally active one in 11.
(Also note that the RNC has an all-important amendment which allows any state delegation (of three people) to move to suspend the rules at any point, which needs to be seconded by seven other state delegations.)
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)In the old days, political parties simply chose their candidate in "smokey backroom" dealing. No reason they can't simply change their mind and do so now.
Of course, either way they play it, they are going to lose perhaps half of their constituents...
...Popcorn, anyone?
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)That is the question that be
Either way we're cooked like a goose!"
Pinch me ... things are going too well right now
Let's try to make it last all the way to Nov 9!
Lebam in LA
(1,344 posts)and start shooting people. I think they are desperate and delusional
riversedge
(70,186 posts)But I know maybe a week ago or so, the Reese Pieces guy said NO!
...Party rules allow RNC members to replace a presidential nominee in the event of "death, declination, or otherwise" - language Trump critics say allows for his replacement soon after he formally captured his party's presidential nomination at the national convention. To force a meeting to discuss Trump's ouster, however, organizers must submit signatures by at least 16 RNC members from 16 states.
Should they do so, GOP chairman Reince Priebus has 10 to 20 days to convene the full, 168-member Republican National Committee.
"This is the same story over and over again," said RNC spokesman Sean Spicer, dismissing the latest effort. He suggested that the Trump rebels have "a credibility problem" after repeated failed attempts to block Trump's nomination at the convention.
Even after Trump ended his feud by endorsing Ryan last Friday night, a fresh wave of Republican operatives - and even a handful of elected officials - vowed to vote for someone else or even leave the GOP altogether.
George II
(67,782 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)Besides, this is cosmic justice for the Rethugs.
I'm not Hillary's biggest fan; but those medieval bastards spent 25 years persecuting, slandering, smearing, and demeaning her in every way imaginable - probably more than anyone else in the history of U.S. presidential politics.
Seeing their own nominee destroy their own party the very year Hillary herself is the nominee, is nothing short of poetic.
Donald, we love you just the way you are!
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)I'm sure they were sure they'd somehow break the cycle... sorry guys. "You reap what you sow"
AND THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST!!!
forest444
(5,902 posts)But considering that Bitchy Mitchy made everyone in the GOP caucus pledge to fight trench warfare against the President even as the nation teetered on the brink of a second Great Depression, they deserve nothing less.
They can drink themselves to death for all i care (and some, like their hero McCarthy, probably will).
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Take trump away and they'll still lose. But the "base" will bitch and whine (as they always do) that the reason they lost was because once again they didnt get the candidate they wanted.
So in '20 they'll go out and nominate another Trump to run, and he/she will get blasted just like THIS trump
jpak
(41,757 posts)yup
(with apologies to The Bard)
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)jpak
(41,757 posts)Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:14 PM - Edit history (1)
At least that is the indication they give all of the time. There were strong anti-Trump elements in the RNC during the primaries, the establishment was rallying around any candidate that could beat him, and lackluster endorsements and even endorsements of Clinton are a sign that they know he is unelectable. If they thought he had a real shot they would be all over his ass like they were with Bush in 2004.Except For few of them this isn't about a moral obligation or a sense of duty, its pure survival and they know Trump is the worst major party candidate, possibly in U.S. history.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)Must be my birthday or something.
"Donald J. Trump is a disaster". no s**t
PatSeg
(47,390 posts)Just take this loss and hope the party can recover. Trying to replace him now would probably do even more damage to their party, if that is possible. Meanwhile, republicans control the majority of governorships, state legislatures, the house, and the senate. They should forget about Trump and try to salvage what they can of the down ticket races (hopefully they won't be successful at that!).
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Well stated!
PatSeg
(47,390 posts)apnu
(8,754 posts)Suggesting his pre-convention behavior was acceptable.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Makes thec super delegates even more important, glad the DNC has taken action.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)red dog 1
(27,792 posts)I agree with those who say "It's too late"
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)The gop is full of racist, misogynist greedy bastards this is their guy.
Midnight Writer
(21,743 posts)Trump IS the Republican Party.
The Republicans made a conscious decision to court and woo cranks, racists, bigots and hate radio disciples, and now their own created Party cobbled together by hate, fear and ignorance is rising up against them
DFW
(54,338 posts)And now they think the solution is to change the mirror instead of what's standing in front of it.
Upthevibe
(8,035 posts)they picked!!! They have only themselves to blame...anti everyone but white, straight, men. I mean come on...this is who they are (along with their uneducated, Christian, racist wives).
DFW
(54,338 posts)Then they are saying they don't trust their rank and file to pick a viable candidate.
If, on the other hand, they don't replace him, they shout to the world that they are incapable of picking a viable candidate.
Not to mention what might happen if they try to replace him against his will, and Trump's bruised ego launches a legal action that makes the ending scene of Animal Farm seem like High Tea at the Dorchester.