Rio diving pool—still green—now closed and smells like farts
Source: ars technica
"Authorities have blamed everything from people to pH, but no end is in sight.
The outdoor Olympic diving pool, which turned a startling shade of green Tuesday, is now closed. It reportedly smells like farts and may be causing eye itchiness among athletes. Since Tuesday, Olympic organizers have repeatedly assured athletes and fans that the pool is safe and that the situation was under control. Rio organizing committee spokesman Mario Andrada told reporters on Wednesday that the pool should go back to its classic blue color during the day. That clearly didnt happen. Instead, reports trickled in that the adjacent pool used for water polo and synchronized swimming also began to turn green."
Read more: http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/08/rio-diving-pool-still-green-now-closed-and-smells-like-farts/
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)How is it, in this day and age, that chemical analysis has not progressed enough that we don't instantly know what is in WATER (as in, anything else besides H2O), not necessarily the cause of the contamination, but the exact chemical make-up?
tymorial
(3,433 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)Pools can go green overnight if the chemicals aren't balanced and the water isn't circulating.
It's not rocket science though, they just need to get someone who knows what they're doing to take care of the pool.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)and it reacted with the chlorine.
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)CRF450
(2,244 posts)Maybe their pool guys just grabbed the wrong chemicals? I'm not even aware of any uses it may have a for a pool, probably none.
4 or 5 days a week I regularly deal with chemical treatment, and regular services to prevent pools from turning green. Number one way we know that a pool turns green is due to lack of chlorine, but other than how it happened with this olympic pool, there's other ways the water can lose chlorine. Two most common scenarios I see is the emergence of Phosphates, and the other, Chloramines. These two chemical issues will eat away the chlorine. To kill chloramines, the pool would have to be shocked till break point is reached. To remove Phosphates, a Phos Remover chemical would have to be used.
Of the regular clientele we deal with, I've only seen a couple cases of a green pool due to metal contaminants. Vast majority of them use city water which is already treated for the most part.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)By 9:00, had it clear.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Google it LOL
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Methane has no smell. Methane plus sulfur compounds called thiols smell like farts.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Igel
(35,296 posts)The natural gas (methane) you get to your house has mercaptan in it so that you can smell gas leaks.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)I am so immature, but I just picture a group of Olympic officials gathered around sniffing the air and saying "yup...definitely farts"
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And there are so many kinds of farts, you can't really generalize like that.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I'm pretty sure a fart smells like a fart...differences and all.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Only your own smells sweet.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I am thing there will be lots of popcorn farts
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I even emailed the Rio Olympics with this.
I have battled the issue when I had a pool in MA.
There are two methods to treat it, I used the method where a chelation chemical is added to the water .
http://www.poolwizard.net/problems/copper-iron.htm
"Where is the copper or iron from?
Copper or iron can find its way into the pool from the fill water. If a well is used, the source may contain these metals in their ionic states. Mains water, while usually well purified, may pick up the metals in the pipe/ plumbing network it passes before it reaches the pool (from rusty or very old piping).
The copper or iron may be the result of corrosion of the pool's pump, heater, pipework or other metal accessories. Nowadays pool water has very little, if any, contact with metal parts unless essential (e.g. pumps are plastic, while heat exchangers have to be metal, usually stainless steel). If the pool's pH is low or the total alkalinity is low or the calcium hardness level is low, then the water tends to be corrosive and the "rusting" of metal parts in the pool is greatly increased.
Another common source of copper is copper-based algaecides. The cheaper ones often supply copper ions rather than complexes and if too much is used, will result in lovely green pool water.
Copper or iron - how to tell
Testing the pool water will let you know what metal is in the water as well as how much. Copper almost always turns the water green and iron usually results in brown pool water. Iron can also be responsible for a green hue so it is not always possible to make a visual diagnosis.
Solve the colored water problem
To solve the problem of colored water as a result of metals, there are two general approaches:
Shock treat the pool to oxidize the metal, which then settles out of solution and looks like rust. The rust can easily be vacuumed out of the pool.
Add a sequestering or chelating agent which forms complexes with the metal and prevents it from being oxidized by the chlorine.
Prevent the problem recurring
If the source of the copper or iron cannot be established or if it cannot be avoided, regular addition of a chelating agent or sequestering agent (metal out products) will ensure that any new metal arriving in the pool water will be held in an inactive complex."
PJMcK
(22,025 posts)You certainly know your swimming pool water chemistry, CentralMass. Thanks for sharing the details. It makes me glad I no longer have a pool!
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Oh yeah, Flint. It still isn't fixed after years.
I wonder if they used much metal pipe at all.
Most pools would go with PVC piping. Especially if the budget is tight.
Flush the pool, refill and shock it. Then balance the chemicals.
Dive quickly!
I've heard the water 'feel' isn't right. Wouldn't that be more of a biological action?
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Chlorine with a built in copper based algaecide. So ilif the are using any of the above, it could be a factor. This was part of the problem with my home pool.
Enrique
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YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)by Fox whether it's Obama's fault or Hillary's?
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)It's gone on long enough.
Igel
(35,296 posts)these games aren't exactly meeting expectations.
Athletes, good. Infrastructure ... uh ...
They shouldn't *need* to fly somebody in.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I am surprised the Games are running this well. I really thought they may have to move them on short notice to London or Los Angeles.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)Good Grief, This is the Olympics, Most poolboys with a decent Ph tester can solve this. (I was one during college breaks) As long as they have the needed chemicals.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Fess up!
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)RKP5637
(67,102 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Then they can drain it, since it will go unused and fall into disrepair after the olympics end.
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)which neutralized the chlorine and allowed algae to flourish. I don't have a link, it was on NBC just now on tv.
Volaris
(10,269 posts)cause thats about how damn stupid THAT was. If Brazil has H3, SOMEWHERE theres some HCl laying around to fix this problem.
This is a problem with a same-day solution.
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)Because if they could do that overnight, even that would be better. But it probably takes a while for the chemicals to mix to the correct levels.
What they really need are people who know what they are doing to monitor the levels and adjust as necessary, as a full-time job until the Olympics are over.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)"professional fart smeller is an actual job in China and you can make up to $50,000 a year."
http://www.thecrazyfacts.com/professional-fart-smeller-actual-job-china-can-make-50000-year/
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)disgusting green but yet tests perfectly fine for consumption by the health department.
When I saw the first picture of the pool my first thought was, 'hell that looks just like our pool every spring when we have to add about 2ft of water'. Takes the filter about 2 goods days to clear it up.
We never drink the stuff straight from the well however as it is nasty tasting...
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)for the water polo pool, not the diving pool. They'll bring water over from the warm up pool which is fine.
The diving pool got 80 liters of hydrogen peroxide on the opening day and that just ruined everything.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)bananakabob
(105 posts)Ew.