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molova

(543 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:19 AM Aug 2016

Wikileaks' Julian Assange says he's 'already been cleared' of sex charges

Source: The Sydney Morning Herald

Julian Assange has used his appearance at the Bendigo Writers Festival to address the controversy surrounding allegations of sexual assault made against him in Sweden.

Mr Assange made a point of speaking about the issue, despite interviewer Robert Manne's initial reluctance, in a live cross from the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

"The situation is this, there is one allegation, there are no charges, there have never been charges," he said.

"In relation to this precise allegation, I have already been cleared by the chief prosecutor of Stockholm, back in 2010, who found that no crime had been committed whatsoever."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/wikileaks-julian-assange-says-hes-already-been-cleared-of-sex-charges-20160814-gqs1oo.html



That's false. Prosecutors are going to interview him in connection to the allegations. Assange is lying.
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Wikileaks' Julian Assange says he's 'already been cleared' of sex charges (Original Post) molova Aug 2016 OP
Just like his fellow traveler Donald Trump, a pathological liar nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #1
Wow, he has alot of nerve I will grant him that much. nt cstanleytech Aug 2016 #2
Did the statuate of limitations run out? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 #3
Not on the rape charge molova Aug 2016 #7
There is no rape charge or any other charge. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #10
The charges are detailed in his arrest warrant hack89 Aug 2016 #22
No. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #29
Then why is he still holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy? George II Aug 2016 #4
He likes the warm climate near the equator. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #6
He loves the food court at Harrod's just across the way! MADem Aug 2016 #8
Because there is a warrant out for his arrest as some of the charges havent expired of course cstanleytech Aug 2016 #11
KUDOS! Plucketeer Aug 2016 #5
So you are giving kudos to a lying piece of shit? dbackjon Aug 2016 #14
Of course they are MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #17
I've revealed underhandedness Plucketeer Aug 2016 #27
He says so? treestar Aug 2016 #9
If there are no charges, then he can safely walk out of the Embassy gate, right? brooklynite Aug 2016 #12
No. He has violated his bail provisions and will be arrested n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #20
He would be given to USA and then put in a box underground for life Cicada Aug 2016 #30
Do tell us the charges he faces from the US... brooklynite Aug 2016 #31
Well, I am sure Chelsea Manning would diasagree with you... nt. Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #36
Funny thing; we filed charges against Manning as well...and of course she pleaded guilty brooklynite Aug 2016 #37
Right. Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #38
If you care to backtrack, I've never been a fan of Assange... brooklynite Aug 2016 #39
Government Fears Chelsea Manning Disclosures May Lead to Indictments for War Crimes think Aug 2016 #40
Indictments are commonly kept secret Cicada Aug 2016 #42
The USA files charges it keeps secret. Cicada Aug 2016 #41
and to think many praised him here a DU a few short years ago FreakinDJ Aug 2016 #13
It didn't take long to find out who he really was. George II Aug 2016 #16
The US did not like what Assange was saying... Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #33
There's nothing to that rumor. He's been hiding out to avoid being extradited to Sweden.... George II Aug 2016 #34
The rape charges are very dubious. nt. Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #35
Asssnge knows that... Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #15
It's stupid to think the US needs to get him to Sweden to have him extradited, EX500rider Aug 2016 #24
The problem is that... Else You Are Mad Aug 2016 #32
The Brits can arrest him for skipping bail.. EX500rider Aug 2016 #43
he is a liar, a horrible sexual predetor who belongs in prison trueblue2007 Aug 2016 #18
Because--the Brits want him also......... riversedge Aug 2016 #19
Up yours, (((Julian))). awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #21
Massage is technically correct Cicada Aug 2016 #23
That is exactly correct reorg Aug 2016 #25
Still an asshole. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #26
"Assange is lying." bananakabob Aug 2016 #28
 

molova

(543 posts)
7. Not on the rape charge
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:33 AM
Aug 2016

Two of the other sex-related charges are done due to the statute, but the rape one is still ongoing.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
10. There is no rape charge or any other charge.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:47 AM
Aug 2016

No formal charges have ever been announced by any prosecutor. They have wanted to question him on allegations. Just to stick to the legal facts.

hack89

(39,181 posts)
22. The charges are detailed in his arrest warrant
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:41 PM
Aug 2016

I would say that makes them formal. And their stated intent is to arrest him. The Swedish prosecutor said that under oath in a British court.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
6. He likes the warm climate near the equator.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

The embassy grounds are a little bit of Ecuador, right?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. He loves the food court at Harrod's just across the way!
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:33 AM
Aug 2016

He sends one of the office boys out to buy the specials of the day for him!!

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
11. Because there is a warrant out for his arrest as some of the charges havent expired of course
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

he claims the reason is because its all some sort of elaborate scheme by the US to extradite and that he will turn himself in if Sweden will agree not to extradite him to the US which is complete horseshit because Sweden simply cannot give him or anyone that kind of blanket immunity.
Now if he was facing the death penalty in the US for murder then yes he might be able to get an agreement not to extradite him unless the US agreed to take the death penalty off the table but in general thats as far as it goes due to extradition treaties.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
27. I've revealed underhandedness
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

while working for government contractors - in one instance, the very LIVES of aircraft crew members was at stake. And yeah, I was a piece of shit after my dare-devil revelations. I damn near lost my job, but I did what was right - not what was all nicey-conformy. Screw anyone who's feelings I might have tweaked.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
30. He would be given to USA and then put in a box underground for life
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:23 PM
Aug 2016

assange has agreed to be tried by Sweden provided they agree not to turn him over to the USA. Sweden refuses that condition.
The USA puts whistle blowers in small rooms underground with no human contact until they can find a way to kill themselves to end that torture.

The Swedish charges are not the primary issue. Assange has agreed to go to trial on them and to suffer any Swedish punishment for them provided Sweden agrees not to turn him over to the USA.

Of course he can not step foot in UK either because they too will send him straight to the hell of American "justice."

Putting anyone in a cell without human contact for extended periods is extremely evil. Assange surely should face justice for the rape charges but he should not face punishment only Satan should condone.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
31. Do tell us the charges he faces from the US...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:48 PM
Aug 2016

We've charged Snowden; we've filed no charges against Assange.

But never let a good conspiracy theory go to waste.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
38. Right.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:02 PM
Aug 2016

But, I am certain that there are a bunch of people that have been renditioned that have done less to the US than Assange that would also disagree with you. Assange gave the US a black eye and they don't -- or as you put it - - we don't tend to appreciate that when it comes to whistle blowing.

If Assange didn't publish those stolen emails from the DNC, I am sure you would not be out for his head.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
39. If you care to backtrack, I've never been a fan of Assange...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:04 PM
Aug 2016

...being a suspect in a sexual assault and all.

BTW - if this conspiracy of yours exists, funny that WikiLeaks can't find any evidence of it, right?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
40. Government Fears Chelsea Manning Disclosures May Lead to Indictments for War Crimes
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:09 PM
Aug 2016
Government Fears Chelsea Manning Disclosures May Lead to Indictments for War Crimes

by GAURI REDDY - AUGUST 12, 2016

~snip~

Manning, who was first taken into custody in 2010 had already been subjected to solitary confinement for 9 months, even before she was convicted. Manning’s supporters believe that the long stretches in solitary confinement since her conviction and lack of essential medical care have contributed to her mental deterioration.

Manning’s attorney Chase Strangio of the ACLU and legendary whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, known best for his role in exposing the Pentagon Papers which revealed failing U.S strategy in the Vietnam War, both explained the significance of the U.S government’s further punishment of Chelsea Manning during a press conference call earlier today.

~Snip~

Daniel Ellsberg, who himself was threatened with 115 years in prison for leaking to the press, top secret information about U.S. Decision-making in the Vietnam war, described Manning “a personal hero”. Ellsberg’s leak led to the convictions of several White House aides and figured in the impeachment proceedings against President Nixon, after which Ellsberg had his own charges dropped in 1973. Ellsberg stated in the press conference that he believes the primary motive for such a lengthy sentence for Manning was because U.S government officials feared possible indictments as a result of Manning’s leaks.

Ellsberg explained that Manning’s disclosures revealed such incriminating information as “turning over Iraqi prisoners for torture, widespread use of assassination teams, and blatant war crimes” which Ellsberg said made U.S officials “liable for criminal prosecution in International Criminal Court (ICC).” While admitting that “the chances of the U.S accepting the ICC’s jurisdiction and actually prosecuting the former U.S president or other U.S officials was virtually zero,” Ellsberg added that “further investigation would reveal even more such incriminating information” and viewed Manning’s lengthy prison sentence as “retaliation for providing evidence that could be used against U.S officials.”....

Read more:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/12/government-fears-chelsea-manning-disclosures/



Cicada

(4,533 posts)
42. Indictments are commonly kept secret
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:16 AM
Aug 2016

Google "sealed indictment" or "silent indictment" to learn that indictments are often secret until the defendant is arrested.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
41. The USA files charges it keeps secret.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:08 AM
Aug 2016

The USA, run by President Obama who I strongly support and admire, is not perfect. The USA severely punishes many who make its flaws public. Wikipedia's has published things which are classified. If you don't understand that the USA will put Assange underground in a box with virtually no human contact then you are blind.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
13. and to think many praised him here a DU a few short years ago
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
Aug 2016

My how times have changed

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
33. The US did not like what Assange was saying...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:13 PM
Aug 2016

... so that is why an Australian citizen is seeking asylum and has been living in an embassy for four years so the UK doesn't turn him over to the US.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. There's nothing to that rumor. He's been hiding out to avoid being extradited to Sweden....
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:31 PM
Aug 2016

....to face those rape charges.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
15. Asssnge knows that...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:11 PM
Aug 2016

Obama wants him extradited to the US and that is why he is going after the DNC as a form of pay back.

EX500rider

(12,583 posts)
24. It's stupid to think the US needs to get him to Sweden to have him extradited,
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:03 PM
Aug 2016

the US is much closer allies with the Brits. Plus extradited for what, as far as i know the US has no charges against him.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
32. The problem is that...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:06 PM
Aug 2016

Assange is an Australian citizen, there are international laws that prevent the outright extradition to the US. But, if he is arrested by Sweden, it becomes easier to extradite him once he is a prisoner.

EX500rider

(12,583 posts)
43. The Brits can arrest him for skipping bail..
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:01 PM
Aug 2016

.....and i still haven't seen any evidence of a US arrest warrant in the first place.

riversedge

(80,812 posts)
19. Because--the Brits want him also.........
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:01 PM
Aug 2016



............But even in the event he is ultimately cleared by Swedish authorities, Mr Assange said he would remain unable to leave the embassy, where he has been living since being granted asylum by Ecuador in 2012.

Asked by Professor Manne how confident he was he would be allowed to go free if the Swedish charges were dropped, Mr Assange was unequivocal.

"I'm 100 per cent confident that I would not be a free person because the British government has said, regardless of whether the Swedes drop the case or not, they're going to arrest me," he said.

"The UK government also refuses to confirm or deny whether there is already a US extradition request."
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
21. Up yours, (((Julian))).
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:35 PM
Aug 2016

On edit: to be clear, I am referencing his anti-semitic tweet from a few weeks ago, not making an AS post.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
23. Massage is technically correct
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:56 PM
Aug 2016

The Swedish prosecutor in 2010 did say she believed that rape had not happened. assange was cleared. But then a different prosecutor said that she wanted to further investigate the charge of rape. There were two other lesser offenses being considered but the statute of limitations has expired. The arrest warrant is for questioning about rape. I guess that is not a "charge" of rape. So Assange may be telling the truth but not the "whole truth." Whether not telling the "whole truth" is "lying" depends on which of severAl definitions of lying you want to use.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
25. That is exactly correct
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 04:17 PM
Aug 2016

we have in fact discussed this in detail right here on this forum while the events unfolded.

Everything that happened after Stockholm's chief prosecutor Eva Finné dismissed the allegations were political shenanigans.

The main damage, though, had already been done at this point: when the first arrest warrant was leaked to the gutter press and the news of the allegations were quickly spread everywhere.

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