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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:32 AM Jun 2012

Zimmerman due in court today at bail hearing

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Orlando Sentinel

SANFORD – George Zimmerman is due back in court today with a request that he again be freed on bail.

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Zimmerman was arrested April 11 but Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. ordered him released on $150,000 bail a week later.

But that was before he learned that Zimmerman had an on-line fund-raising campaign that was raking in $1,000 a day.

At an April 20 bond hearing, Zimmerman's wife, Shellie Zimmerman, testified under oath that she and George were broke. In reality, according to prosecutors, they had transferred at least $135,000 between accounts in the days just before the hearing.

The day she testified, according to records produced by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey, Shellie Zimmerman had $57,000 in her personal bank account.



Read more: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-29/news/os-george-zimmerman-bond-hearing-20120629_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-sanford-man-hearing



George Zimmerman's Dad Testifies Voice Howling for Help Is His Son
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-dad-testifies-voice-howling-son/story?id=16672554

Judge hears arguments at Zimmerman bond hearing
http://www.northjersey.com/news/Judge_hears_arguments_at_Zimmerman_bond_hearing.html
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
2. I agree bail release should be denied.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:14 AM
Jun 2012

He and his wife appear to have nothing but disdain for the law.

First they engage in a conspiracy to commit a fraud on the court by moving monies around.

Second they both perjure themselves as to their assets.

Third it appears that Zimmerman surrendered one passport but had another. I'm sure the judge had requested any/all passports and again he lied and engaged in deception.

If I were the judge I would not believe anything he says and would consider him a significant flight risk.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
3. today is also the day that the prosecutor is supposed to dump even more evidence in the case
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:51 AM
Jun 2012

I've been waiting to see what other new evidence gets released today as the prosecutor said that she would be releasing a lot of previously held back evidence on the 29th.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
4. Annnnnd, here's some from ABC News...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jun 2012
George Zimmerman's Head Was Covered in Blood, EMT Testifies

By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC)
SANFORD, Fla. June 29, 2012

A member of a Sanford, Fla., ambulance crew told a court today that George Zimmerman's head, including his moustache and beard, were covered in blood after the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

EMT Kevin O'Rourke testified during Zimmerman's bond hearing this morning that "45 percent" of Zimmerman's head had blood on it and that the lacerations on Zimmerman's head "would probably need stitches."...


http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-head-covered-blood-emt-testified/story?id=16672554#.T-3LVb94WDU

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
10. Didn't look like it in the video released from that night...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:51 PM
Jun 2012

...also, I don't remember him having a moustache and beard in that video, either -- did the EMT shave it for him? And did George ever get any stitches for his injuries? Again, I don't recall that being the case.

Finally: what is this testimony doing in a bail hearing, anyway?

Response to maddezmom (Original post)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. Maybe Zimmerman has made inconsistent statements, and she wants to catch
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:27 PM
Jun 2012

him in his contradictions. Maybe the likelihood of conviction is one of the court's considerations. Lots of possibilities.

Maybe the prosecutor just wants to let Zimmerman talk himself into a corner. Maybe she is interested in finding out the truth, because we don't know what that is yet. We won't know until the jury tells us whose story and which facts it believes to be credible.

Credibility is the name of the game, and you can't tell how a jury will judge that at this point.

uppityperson

(115,680 posts)
16. He testifies the voice on tape is definitely Georges', yet experts disagree. OK, the apple didn't
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:58 PM
Jun 2012

fall far from the tree, did it?

 

needmoreammo

(3 posts)
7. Not safe in public.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jun 2012

I'm not so sure that Zimmerman should be bailed, but not for the same reasons as the rest of you are likely considering. I don't think its safe for him to be out in public. While extremely under-reported, the violent reactionaries out for their own special version of justice in Trayvon's name are still there.

Considering the evidence, the official reports, and the lie detector tests, I'll pose my theory on why Zimmerman might hide money and a passport. I think hes afraid that he's going to face an overexposed jury who will convict not on evidence but on the inflammatory race battle our media has instigated. On the other side, if he is vindicated in the shooting of Trayvon do you all really believe it will end there? This man will have to leave the country, he simply will not be safe here. Innocent random people have been beaten and killed in the name of Trayvon. Zimmerman will be a target for the rest of his days for those who think they are above the law.

This money matter is an all to old story and with the various number of donation accounts, some set up by Zimmerman and some not, I'm going to reserve judgement till full investigations have completed. Having said that, lets try not to be side-tracked by this. Zimmerman's financials are not relevant to the case at hand which is: self defense or murder.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
9. Just two things.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jun 2012
Zimmerman will be a target for the rest of his days for those who think they are above the law.

You mean like Zimmerman thought he was above the law when he got out of the SUV?

Zimmerman's financials are not relevant to the case at hand which is: self defense or murder.

No, this is a bail hearing, financials are very relevant.

Hope you have a nice stay.

Response to needmoreammo (Reply #7)

crim son

(27,464 posts)
13. Zimmerman's deceit re: the financials
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:18 PM
Jun 2012

is relevant in that it exposes his willingness to lie to protect his own ass. From the little I've read about the guy, he tends to get himself in trouble and then somehow get off with no real repercussions. I'm tempted to believe he thought this was going to be another such case. I absolutely do not believe what he claimed, that the kid's last words were "You got me." That alone is so utterly ridiculous that I have to wonder if Zimmerman is even sane enough to stand trial.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
15. Zimmerman failed to appear in previous court case, fined $10,000
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jun 2012
The man who killed Trayvon Martin once failed to show up at a deposition in his own lawsuit and was fined $10,000. Will the incident make a difference for a judge who will decide Friday whether to allow George Zimmerman to be free on bail on a murder charge.

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Zimmerman was once fined $10,000 in a federal civil lawsuit because he was a no-show at his own deposition, The Miami Herald has learned. Records show lawyers, including one who flew in from Atlanta to take Zimmerman’s sworn statement, waited for him for an hour and a half while they tried unsuccessfully to reach him.

Zimmerman ultimately won the overtime-pay dispute in arbitration, but the arbitrator hit him with a fine he apparently never paid. Nothing in the court file explained why he missed the deposition.

O’Mara says Zimmerman’s failure to appear at a deposition in a civil case should not count against his client in his murder trial for the shooting of Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin. O’Mara is asking the judge to set bond at “something similar” to $150,000 — what it was before Zimmerman was sent back to jail for keeping secret how much money he had raised from online donations.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/27/2871449/zimmerman-failed-to-appear-in.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy


He also never notified his attorney for that case when he received the settlement - and never paid the law firm for their time representing him...

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
11. Zimmerman not immediately granted bail
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jun 2012

>> reporter: it's been a very curiouq a bond hearing, as you just said. will the judge grant georgezimmerman a new bond. but it really devolved into sort of a mini trial here, because the defense called witnesses, as did the prosecution, and they questioned the strength of the case for this second degree murder case. now, among the pieces of evidence that has been used by the prosecution to help bring the second degree murder charges are in the background of some 911 calls, you can hear screaming for help. trayvon martin, the unarmed 17-year-old who was shot and killed, his mother heard that tape and said that was my son screaming for help. well, today, george zimmerman 's father took the stand and he unequivocally stated that he listened to those tapes and it was his son screaming for help. now, after all of that was wrapped up, the judge returned to the issue at hand which is about the bond hearing. he emptied the courtroom without issuing a ruling. he will do that, we're not sure when. the state wants him kept in jail. the defense says that's punitive, he should be allowed to get out and they are actually asking for a similar bond that he had before, $150,000. we may get a ruling today. it may come a week from now. the judge did not tip his hand.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc-tv/48015070/#48015070

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