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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:39 AM Aug 2016

Trump campaign manager: If women were stronger, rape wouldn't exist

Source: Ajc

This time, it's Trump's newest campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway. She was taking part in a round-table discussion on PBS' "To The Contrary" in 2013 when she said this about rape:

"If we were physiologically — not mentally, emotionally, professionally equal to men. If we were physiologically as strong as men, rape would not exist. You would be able to defend yourself," Conway said.

What makes the clip even stranger is that Conway made the remarks unprompted. The panel was discussing women in the military and how much physical strength female soldiers should have compared to their male counterparts. The point about rape seemingly came out of left field.

The statement seems to ignore that some female sexual assault survivors are drugged or otherwise incapacitated. It also fails to take into account that 9 percent of rape or sexual assault survivors are male, according to a U.S. Department of Justice-sponsored study.

Read more: http://m.ajc.com/news/news/national/trump-campaign-manager-if-women-were-stronger-rape/nsPRw/

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Trump campaign manager: If women were stronger, rape wouldn't exist (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 OP
Every Time I Think It Can't Get Dumber. . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #1
And she could fight off who? get the red out Aug 2016 #2
You don't have to worry, Kellyanne bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #3
Jebus H, these people have no morals, no soul. trusty elf Aug 2016 #4
That whole campaign is like a big, noxious cloud. Vinca Aug 2016 #5
I think it time for some Airplane, for some sanity, she actually said that----------amazing turbinetree Aug 2016 #6
K & R for exposure of idiot. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #7
*sigh* cstanleytech Aug 2016 #8
Rape is a crime of violence. mahannah Aug 2016 #9
This is true. crim son Aug 2016 #10
The obvious solution is NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #22
Or buy a gun. The great equalizer for women. Women buying guns for protection is the fastest growing Akicita Aug 2016 #37
Nope. crim son Aug 2016 #44
No its not true. Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #41
Some of those comments are represented in this thread, actually. crim son Aug 2016 #46
Okay. Now you've got me imagining a world with 6" men. Would women collect them and keep them in... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #43
Hard to say. I think I would treat them well, crim son Aug 2016 #45
Right, so my physically disabled friend should have just fought harder, right. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #11
Everyday, her Stockholm Syndrome gets worse. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #12
And if your aunt had cojones, she'd be your uncle, Ms. Conway. What an idiot. nt raccoon Aug 2016 #13
just another self loathing right wing moron working hard against her own best interests. nt Javaman Aug 2016 #14
that was the best sentence I've seen in a long time trixie Aug 2016 #21
Something you want to tell us... Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #15
Whatever Donald has... truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #16
Dear Kellyannne Conway and Steve Bannon turbinetree Aug 2016 #17
Now we know ,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #18
If wishes were horses Friend or Foe Aug 2016 #19
To be fair question everything Aug 2016 #20
Well, OK. But...remember how the GOP grabbed something Bernie wrote when he was in Stonepounder Aug 2016 #24
You are scary. Bobbit was crazy. Mutilation of sex organs should not be promoted. Akicita Aug 2016 #38
I didn't think I needed a 'sarcasm' or a 'joke' tag for my post. n/t Stonepounder Aug 2016 #39
Not much of a joke. I sure don't make FGM jokes. Akicita Aug 2016 #40
Most likely because FGM is a standard rather than an statistical aberration. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #50
No, it is because joking about mutilating someone's genitals is offensive, whether it happens a lot Akicita Aug 2016 #52
One good statement from her NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #34
I'm sure there are some women who can fight it off treestar Aug 2016 #23
OMFG she worked for Todd Akin truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #25
I thought you were kidding about her working for Akin. 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #42
Maybe the answer would be th incarcerate men like Trump. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #26
If men knew how to please women sexually, they wouldn't have to pay for it. ehrnst Aug 2016 #27
Females voting Republican - Masochists? packman Aug 2016 #28
God, the fucking stupid is contagious 47of74 Aug 2016 #29
the stupid... it hurts arithia Aug 2016 #30
Yes, if only all women were men Shankapotomus Aug 2016 #31
Of course, because men never assault each other sarge43 Aug 2016 #48
ok then, why do men get raped? getagrip_already Aug 2016 #32
I scrolled through to leftynyc Aug 2016 #33
When this campaign is over and Trump fails miserably... Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #35
Why has Conway become a media star? Safe as Milk Aug 2016 #54
Good question Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #55
She didn't say that today. She said it in 2013, per the article. NT Sand Rat Expat Aug 2016 #56
More ignorance from the most ignorant campaign in America history. lark Aug 2016 #36
In world's history.nt FigTree Aug 2016 #47
True dat lark Aug 2016 #49
So......they are all dumber than shit..(my apologies to shit) Stuart G Aug 2016 #51
I'm getting sick of all of this... Safe as Milk Aug 2016 #53
Some people say the damnedest things. n/t Little Tich Aug 2016 #57

get the red out

(14,031 posts)
2. And she could fight off who?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:45 AM
Aug 2016

And would that be her fault? I fail to understand how physical strength justifies rape?

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
22. The obvious solution is
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:04 AM
Aug 2016

that women need to go out & get bitten by radioactive spiders so they're much stronger than men.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
37. Or buy a gun. The great equalizer for women. Women buying guns for protection is the fastest growing
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:48 PM
Aug 2016

demographic for gun purchases. Women are no longer going to lay back and take it like that Texas repuke governor candidate once suggested.

crim son

(27,552 posts)
44. Nope.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:22 PM
Aug 2016

Not for me, anyway. I have had clinical depression my entire life and at times sink pretty low. No way I'd keep a gun in my house, even now that the only child living here is seventeen.

I hate guns. Hate them.

crim son

(27,552 posts)
46. Some of those comments are represented in this thread, actually.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:25 PM
Aug 2016

And I was kidding, not promoting a myth. No sane person could possibly take this woman's claims seriously; I certainly did not.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
43. Okay. Now you've got me imagining a world with 6" men. Would women collect them and keep them in...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:12 PM
Aug 2016

...little terrariums? Would they, rather like Pokemon, engage in contests with them, not only setting up one-on-one battles but battles of tiny warrior tribes? Would they groom them, coo over them and feed them treats?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
11. Right, so my physically disabled friend should have just fought harder, right.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 08:17 AM
Aug 2016

Fuck that BS!

Javaman

(65,710 posts)
14. just another self loathing right wing moron working hard against her own best interests. nt
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 08:31 AM
Aug 2016

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
15. Something you want to tell us...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:03 AM
Aug 2016

...Kellyanne? Putting it as delicately as I can, were you a victim?

turbinetree

(27,546 posts)
17. Dear Kellyannne Conway and Steve Bannon
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:30 AM
Aug 2016

can you and Mr. Bannon have an answer to this report, I think the public has a right to know, since your "guy" and "everyone", in the "republican party, from Paul Ryan, every republican Congressman and woman, Mitch McConnell, and every republican U.S Senate men and woman on down:

says that what he is saying is wrong, but will still "vote" for him because he is better than the democratic candidate-----------really:

What say the republican party..........................he owns you and you own him, lets not forget this point, and this article should be asked in every campaign debate, in the MSM when confronted in this country, do you still endorse and will vote for Donald J. Trump?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
18. Now we know ,,,,
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:38 AM
Aug 2016

who worked with Ben Carson on his research of those big pyramid Grain bins!

Friend or Foe

(195 posts)
19. If wishes were horses
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:41 AM
Aug 2016

Beggars would ride!

Kellyanne gives new meaning to all the blond jokes that I've forgotten by now.

question everything

(52,132 posts)
20. To be fair
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:46 AM
Aug 2016

This is from 2013. And after the Akin disaster she has been telling her clients that "rape" is a four letter word that should not be used in any campaign.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
24. Well, OK. But...remember how the GOP grabbed something Bernie wrote when he was in
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:10 AM
Aug 2016

college and tried to make a yugggggge thing out of it?

And anyway, my comeback to the original comment would be:

Well, I guess if men didn't have penises then we wouldn't need the Lorena Bobbitts of the world.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. Most likely because FGM is a standard rather than an statistical aberration.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:37 PM
Aug 2016

Most likely because FGM is a standard rather than an statistical aberration. However, should you need to pretend they are both as widespread, by all means... it's a standard form of advancing inaccurate narratives.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
52. No, it is because joking about mutilating someone's genitals is offensive, whether it happens a lot
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 08:00 PM
Aug 2016

in reality or not.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
34. One good statement from her
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

in response to HUGE public relations gaffes by Republicans doesn't make up for her statement in the OP. And, I'm sure most publicists would have had similar advice for Republicans at the time.

What's next from her? Is she going to say that if only Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown were bulletproof, they'd be okay? If only people could fly, we'd have far fewer car accidents?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. I'm sure there are some women who can fight it off
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:08 AM
Aug 2016

In fact when younger I took a class in self defense. No guns, either. There are all kinds of things we can learn to do.

truthisfreedom

(23,532 posts)
25. OMFG she worked for Todd Akin
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:23 AM
Aug 2016

The guy who claimed women can't get pregnant during rape... WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? oh never mind, they're FUCKING SICKOS.

https://thinkprogress.org/kellyanne-conway-trump-c6b04fba7c12#.3cw0a1gx8

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
42. I thought you were kidding about her working for Akin.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:06 PM
Aug 2016

Alas, not. And she was hired to "win over women?" Good luck with that.

That a woman would even say such a thing is despicable!

Blue Idaho

(5,500 posts)
35. When this campaign is over and Trump fails miserably...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:15 PM
Aug 2016

His supporters will have to answer for their stupidity, hatred, racisism, and sexism. I don't care if they are from the world of business, politics, or media. There will be consequences for their words and deeds.

Kellyanne has swallowed a poison pill and she will sink with Trump.

Safe as Milk

(254 posts)
54. Why has Conway become a media star?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 08:44 PM
Aug 2016

This woman is a propaganda shill for Trump, and somehow the cable news media wants to defer to her as some kind of responsible, diplomatic schmoozer who's such a refreshing change from the woman who used to wear bullets around her neck-- Katrina something or other. But now Conway is the darling of the Trump idiocy parade, even though she said today that women wouldn't be rape victims if they weren't the weaker sex. My God, what has happened to the national conversation? Conway is a propagandist who will NOT answer sensitive questions about Trump's statements or behavior, ever. She's just in front of cameras to put lipstick on the Pig.

Blue Idaho

(5,500 posts)
55. Good question
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:14 PM
Aug 2016

She has a long history supporting all sorts of sexist and racist policy ideas. She is an unabashed über conservative nut case. Take her position on rape... She believes that if women were just as strong as men there would be no rape - ever. Why the media has decided she is the "reasonable woman" is beyond me.

lark

(26,081 posts)
36. More ignorance from the most ignorant campaign in America history.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

Looks like she's in the right place for her, playing in the crap world of Drumpf and other white nationalists.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
51. So......they are all dumber than shit..(my apologies to shit)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:48 PM
Aug 2016

Reminds me of that statement by another dumb dumb...something about women can stop conception if she is raped and can will her way, by strong thoughts, to prevent pregnancy....The dumber they are....the harder they fall.........and that one was .....very very dumb...

Safe as Milk

(254 posts)
53. I'm getting sick of all of this...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 08:38 PM
Aug 2016

I'm getting tired, very tired, of Trump's insistence that he remain the main character in the 24 hour news cycle. Every cycle, every day, is consumed by Trump. MSNBC has what, 4 hours of prime time news and commentary. Trump dominates roughly 80% of every program on every day. Yes, he's losing the election. And perhaps I should be gleeful about Trump continuing to shoot himself in the foot. He's got so many feet to shoot, he's a centipede. But I digress. I've come to the point in this election season to start turning off the news programs because they're getting so predictable in their coverage of Trump, it's getting boring.

And no, I won't vote for the monster. And now I don't want to listen to him anymore or see news items about him anymore.

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