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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 02:17 PM Sep 2016

Photos surface of Philly police officer with Nazi tattoo

Source: phillyvoice

Photographs depicting a Philadelphia police officer on duty with a Nazi tattoo began circulating on social media late Wednesday night.

The photo appears to show the Nazi Party's partieadler emblem tattooed on the left forearm of an officer identified as Ian Hans Lichterman, 39. The party emblem features an eagle, with outstretched wings, holding a wreath containing a swastika. The photo shows the eagle topped by the word "Fatherland," but it is not clear if the tattoo includes the enwreathed swastika at the bottom, which cannot be seen in the photo.

The photos were posted to Facebook by Evan Parish Matthews, who claimed he took them at a Black Lives Matter march held during the Democratic National Convention. Matthews said Lichterman was one of about 100 officers who blocked an entrance to a major intersection during the march.

Philly Antifa, an antifascist blog, posted several other photos, saying Lichterman previously was outed as a member of the neo-Nazi organization Blood and Honour when several neo-Nazi websites were hacked between 2010 and 2012. The blog claims Lichterman later left the Philadelphia Police Department to take a security job in the Middle East.

Read more: http://www.phillyvoice.com/photos-surface-philly-police-officer-nazi-tattoo/

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Photos surface of Philly police officer with Nazi tattoo (Original Post) NWCorona Sep 2016 OP
unsurprising. arithia Sep 2016 #1
So do police dapartments. Iggo Sep 2016 #11
Well, in 2006 the FBI warned about white supremacists deliberately infiltrating law enforcement: tblue37 Sep 2016 #23
Very disturbing. n/t inanna Sep 2016 #25
Cue the Philadelphia FOP BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #2
It's not like he's an active NAZI or anything. Octafish Sep 2016 #3
I think that is the question given the issues BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #4
I know right? Look at the reformed David Duke lol! NWCorona Sep 2016 #9
Wow awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #12
This is truly frightening LakeArenal Sep 2016 #5
Free. Speech. jtuck004 Sep 2016 #6
I just bet... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #13
At least he wears a warning. I prefer that to the two-faced people I meet every day that jtuck004 Sep 2016 #19
I, too, like my racists out in the open awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #20
Some of those that work forces... Iggo Sep 2016 #7
The SPLC has been warning about this for quite some time now. Loki Sep 2016 #8
Bingo! People don't think about the threat because these guys names seem friendly. NWCorona Sep 2016 #10
This is just so vile. n/t demmiblue Sep 2016 #14
It's really simple... mark67 Sep 2016 #15
"You can privately be a racist and still be a professional and get the job done." demmiblue Sep 2016 #16
It probably depends on the type of unit mark67 Sep 2016 #24
Standards for law enforcement are so very low Unit 001 Sep 2016 #17
Not surprised Tree-Hugger Sep 2016 #18
I wouldn't make any specific suggestions for neo-Nazi cops... backscatter712 Sep 2016 #21
Plus uno. Iggo Sep 2016 #22

tblue37

(65,273 posts)
23. Well, in 2006 the FBI warned about white supremacists deliberately infiltrating law enforcement:
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 10:46 PM
Sep 2016
http://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/

Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat.

Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.

In near prophetic fashion, after the FBI’s warning, white supremacy extremism in the U.S. increased, exponentially. From 2008 to 2014, the number of white supremacist groups, reportedly, grew from 149 to nearly a thousand, with no apparent abatement in their infiltration of law enforcement (emphasis added).

SNIP

BumRushDaShow

(128,728 posts)
2. Cue the Philadelphia FOP
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 02:58 PM
Sep 2016
John McNesby, president of Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 5, said of the photo: "I've seen it. It's an Eagle. Not a big deal."

"City not concerned neither are we," McNesby wrote in a text message. "I see people with panthers on their arm. Doesn't mean they are black panthers. People with crosses on arms doesn't mean they dislike any other religion."

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20160902_FOP_leader__Philly_police_officer_s_apparent_Nazi-style_tattoo__not_a_big_deal_.html


Mkay.

The person who tweeted the picture mentioned in the OP has a feed that is interesting (no, she does not appear to be a POC) - https://twitter.com/mindyisser/status/771310049008300032/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

There's a comment comparing this cop displaying the tattoo to Kaepernick's protest.

BumRushDaShow

(128,728 posts)
4. I think that is the question given the issues
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 03:59 PM
Sep 2016

that this department has had in the past with some of their white officers.

I think what was also being questioned was why the gap in service-

According to city payroll records, an officer whose name is spelled Ian Lichterman joined the Police Department in April 2000 but left in August 2002. In May 2003 he returned, records show, and his current salary as a police officer is about $72,000. It was not immediately clear why the records show a gap in his service.

Lichterman hung up on a reporter when reached on his cellphone Thursday.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20160902_FOP_leader__Philly_police_officer_s_apparent_Nazi-style_tattoo__not_a_big_deal_.html


Here is some more - http://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/09/01/philly-cop-nazi-tattoo/ ...which has a link to a site with this interesting tidbit -

<...>

Those of our readers who have been Anti-Fascists for a few years may remember that during a period from 2010-2012 there were several successful hacks of Neo-Nazi websites that led to the identification of dozens of Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists.

One of the more interesting cases was that of Ian Hans Lichterman. Lichterman was listed as a member of Blood and Honour, an international network of Neo-Nazi organizations started by Ian Stuart Donaldson, the lead singer of Skrewdriver. Upon some investigating, it was discovered that Lichterman was also a Philly PD officer who had even recently been commended at a crime stoppers awards ceremony.

Shortly after the hack, Lichterman left the Philly PD and was working as a private security contractor (mercenary) in the middle east for some time, presumably using his connections from his time as a Marine. Recently, at the Philly Coalition for REAL Justice’s march during the DNC, someone noticed that one of the bike cops working the event had some shady tattoos. That cop has been identified as Ian Lichterman, back on duty in Philly.

<...>

https://phillyantifa.noblogs.org/post/2016/09/01/philly-police-officer-outed-as-white-supremacist-with-ties-to-blood-and-honour/


 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
12. Wow
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 05:03 PM
Sep 2016

"I see people with panthers on their arm. Doesn't mean they are black panthers. People with crosses on arms doesn't mean they dislike any other religion."

So they are going to characterize Nazism as a like/dislike thing?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
13. I just bet...
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 05:04 PM
Sep 2016

he treats PoC with respect I know it is a free speech thing, but free speech protections doesn't guarantee him a job serving people he hates.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
19. At least he wears a warning. I prefer that to the two-faced people I meet every day that
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 08:04 PM
Sep 2016

have no tattoos, but pay him to beat people up for them.

Just plain old citizens.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
8. The SPLC has been warning about this for quite some time now.
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 04:54 PM
Sep 2016

White Nationalists and Skin Heads infiltrating the Armed Services and police departments. Guess no one was paying attention. #NotSurprised.

mark67

(196 posts)
15. It's really simple...
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 06:06 PM
Sep 2016

...if he's claims that he is reformed he should have the tattoos inked over and his performance records need to be scrutinized as well as his professional and personal affiliations. You can privately be a racist and still be a professional and get the job done. I served in the military with guys like that.

True story: when I was in army accessions an applicant was referred to me with a tattoo of Adolf Hitler on his shoulder. When I asked him about it, he told me it was a tattoo of his grandfather who happened to have a striking resemblance to the "Fuhrer." Eventually we turned him away but my commander joked that he should just ink in Larry and Curly inked in on both sides of the tattoo.

demmiblue

(36,834 posts)
16. "You can privately be a racist and still be a professional and get the job done."
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 06:27 PM
Sep 2016

Um, no.

One's true self will always win over. You may not always see the evidence or repercussions of said person's racism, but it will always color the way they act and the way they think.

As far as professionalism in the US Military is concerned, let's just ask the women troops who are sexually abused and assaulted at an astounding rate by their fellow "professional" colleagues.

mark67

(196 posts)
24. It probably depends on the type of unit
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 12:26 PM
Sep 2016

I served in combat arms unit. No women assigned...and yes, there were plenty of closet racists in the ranks who knew they'd be hammered if they ever uttered one word to that effect...

 

Unit 001

(59 posts)
17. Standards for law enforcement are so very low
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 07:16 PM
Sep 2016

Any racist, hateful imbecile can become a deputy where I live.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
21. I wouldn't make any specific suggestions for neo-Nazi cops...
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 08:15 PM
Sep 2016

Best to stick with general advice that's good for all Nazis.

I'll just leave this here...

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