House conservatives serve notice to Ryan _ and Clinton
Source: AP
WASHINGTON (AP) Since returning from their summer recess, House conservatives have wasted no time showing just how tough they can make life for Speaker Paul Ryan and for Democrat Hillary Clinton, if she becomes president.
Conservatives look determined to force a vote in the coming days to impeach the head of the IRS despite deep misgivings among other Republicans about such a pre-election move.
They're pressuring Ryan to oppose a deal taking shape in the Senate on must-pass legislation to keep the government open.
And they're promising to keep investigating Clinton's email issues even if she ends up in the White House. Some conservatives are even saying openly that impeachment hearings should be an option against Clinton.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2a9b6cf971a24f03a4c958648e170fe3/house-conservatives-serve-notice-ryan-and-clinton
Conservatives? No: anarchists, plain and simple!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)PSPS
(13,714 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Yes you can divide them by population and there's still some room to gerrymander north to south or east to west within the watershed, but at least it makes some sense. Also, it would make it easier for people to get a handle on water pollution and water diversions if they are voting within a watershed district.
michaz
(1,352 posts)I would bet there is a lot to pull up on some of them. This is why nothing gets done for the people in this country. They refuse to actually do any work that amounts to anything.
DFW
(54,941 posts)Only right wing hacks who have hijacked the label for convenience.
kacekwl
(7,065 posts)who would expose them for what they are this wouldn't happen.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Very very dangerous group of assholes. If you read history, not all that different from the Nazis in the 1920s.
ffr
(22,716 posts)From the Get Smart series.
Meanwhile, we still don't have any movement on supreme court nominee and other REAL government work.
Fuck republicans! This shit has to stop this election!
TimeToGo
(1,369 posts)But your point is exactly right.
It's been 30+ years since that show was on. Those childhood brain cells were probably destroyed by a beer or two.
greymattermom
(5,756 posts)She will figure out a way to put a hold on all government spending in their districts if they vote to shut down the government.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Presidential aspirations are about to be flushed down the porcelain fixture. Just can not imagine the conversations between him and Gowdy and other Tea-Baggers. Hopefully,we Dems gain more ground in taking back the House. Sounds like we are in for a Governmental shutdown.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)The Senate won't have near enough votes to impeach the IRS chief.
It won't take that many Republicans to pass reasonable, productive Senate legislation.
And if they didn't make a case about silly freakin' emails before the election, good luck after. Nothing like trying to usurp the will of the people after we have spoken!
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)They will continue to be the party of "no," and multiple impeachment attempts would not surprise me.
They will probably try to impeach her for coughing too much or for looking dowdy next.
PatSeg
(48,486 posts)that started in the 1990s. If they have a majority, I have no doubt that they will go down that route again. They are so predictable.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)tried their best with Obama, but couldn't find anything. Of course they also tried to get him
out of the presidency in other ways - all invented and nonsensical ways, such as "he was born
in Kenya" - but nobody would buy such crap. They'll keep on trying, of course.
PatSeg
(48,486 posts)the world's worst losers and most obnoxious winners. Dealing with them is like being back in grade school.
lark
(23,385 posts)That's a total given. This is why we have got to get the majority in the Senate. That way we can eliminate the filibuster for judicial choices and actually change things for the better. Without the Senate majority, nothing at all good will happen, only bad and an impeachment is a virtual certainty.
I really hate those fing traitors to our country, who would destroy us just to prove that they can.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Party before country is their implicit motto. They have it bass ackwards.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Piss on the conservatives. Let them bring impeachment up.... No way the Senate convicts with 2/3rds majority and EVERYONE will know her impeachment vote was party line right-wing bullshit. When it fails and ANY conservative in a tight race in 2018-19, in blue leaning states who votes for it..... well......
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)they will do it nonetheless, and gum up the works for at least another two years.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)5 minutes after she takes the oath of office.
Mc Mike
(9,123 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 9, 2016, 06:38 PM - Edit history (1)
That last line is an insult to anarchists, Marty. Nihilists is what those freaks are.
greymattermom
(5,756 posts)Will they stop Zika funding? A vaccine is in the works and could be ready in a few years with funding.
Mc Mike
(9,123 posts)And our side cares if red state Americans suffer, and those disease vectors will affect blue states, to boot.
lark
(23,385 posts)Doesn't mean a damn thing to congress. They don't give a shit about health, as long as it's not their family, they're willing for the rest to die so they can score a point (stupid, stupid, I know) about the ACA. They are maniacal and homicidal. I also have a daughter who's child bearing age. Luckily she's more career minded at this point and not ready to start a family. Hopefully by the time she's ready, FL will be spraying for mosquitos again. I hope Rick Scott and his family get Zika, he deserves it for cutting the funding by 1 million dollars just as Zika was ramping up. If he wasn't so awful, and cared about anything in the world other than making himself and the other rich even richer, we wouldn't be having this issue at all. Mosquito control has been done in FL since I was a child and I'm retiring next year. This is the first year without it, right when we need it the most.
Mc Mike
(9,123 posts)in FL, right?
It's crazy that the same party that ran on ebola "threats" and "disease carrier" Hispanic refugees in '14 is happy to do zero about the Zika threat in '16. Except cause problems for Women's Health centers and oppose contraception, of course.
It's almost like they WANT something to go wrong, to influence the elections. I hope for the best health for you and yours, and all the people Zika threatens, lark.
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Mc Mike
(9,123 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Andy McCarthy, a conservative pundit who served as a national security adviser to Sen. Ted Cruzs presidential campaign, is urging Congress to preemptively impeach Hillary Clinton in order to prevent her from becoming president.
McCarthy wrote in the National Review on Tuesday that Congress could launch proceedings for an impeachment [of Clinton] based on her abuses of power as secretary of state, which would have the constitutional effect of disqualifying her for the presidency
more
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/andy-mccarthy-wants-congress-preemptively-impeach-clinton
The circus never ends.
Wednesdays
(17,817 posts)they would need two-thirds of the Senate to go along. They won't get within a mile from that mark.
turbinetree
(24,794 posts)these hypocrites are getting ready to take another spring break.
I just can't imagine, going into the chambers of the house and senate, making over $174,000 and $225,000 (cough cough -leadership position) and actually ripping people off, just like dumpster does on a regular bases and have and have a smile on your face, and having to get up and do something, and having been in session a total of around 130 days so far this year.
Then to top it all off attacking the very fabric of the country by blaming everyone , so what do they do, go after social security and medicare, and getting ready to pass a trade bill, to further undermine the country, while wearing american flag ( made in china communists country, vietnam or where ever) and state lapels pins in /on there dresses or jackets.
And then we have the DAPL going on, and not one except for one U.S. Senator (Bernie Sanders) talking about how a energy company wants to make this country energy independent while selling the fracked oil out onto the open market, and if completed polluting the waters of the Lakota and Cheyenne Sioux and there scared land at the Cannonball, Missouri and Mississippi.
But these "guys and dolls" in Congress and the Senate are wanting to go after the IRS so that the corporations and hedge fund mangers and the wealthy that they whining, that they are paying to much in capital gain tax, so called death tax, while off shoring the money made ( which this congress is letting them do) and, being subsidized by those that can't do what these hypocrites are doing.
So that in essence ( the middle class -whats left of us and the working poor) people are paying those taxes on top of there own, so that in appearance it makes it look like the wealthy is being eaten by the poor and middle class, when it is the opposite.
Because this country has a Ayn Rand do nothing House embolden by a Paul Ryan and his Fountainhead Atlas Shrugged mentality ---------------------amazing.
The same "guy" that says that dumpster is saying some inappropriate things, (NO S**T DipS***T) but you and your party is / are going to vote for a fascist racists guy that loves a Russian dictator supporter, and you call yourself "americans and patriots ---------------not in my book I consider you treasonous.
So if one were to read the book:
The Betrayal of the American Dream by Bartlett and Steele , the pieces would fall together, they pretty much say it all
While this is going on the MSM is doing this----go figure
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/media-making-real-horse-race-expense
Honk-----------------for a political revolution (Our Revolution)
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)Well said turbinetree
turbinetree
(24,794 posts)jmowreader
(50,740 posts)Their candidate is a catastrophe of epic proportion. The American people have had enough of nothing getting done, and attempting to impeach the head of the IRS for something that happened when he was running Freddie Mac is NOT going to go well for them! If they DO file articles of impeachment against John Koskinen, the odds of the House flipping rise from "non-zero event" to "slightly above 50 percent."
And I would truly love it if Speaker Keith Ellison were to launch a wide-ranging investigation on the fraud, waste and abuse that has permeated the House of Representatives since the children were elected in 2010.
DFW
(54,941 posts)The Republicans would find themselves up against an onslaught of a sort they are not prepared to withstand. They have been counting (correctly up to now) on the Democrats keeping to their own standards of decency--standards for which the Republicans have nothing but the highest contempt.
But Republicans don't like starting fights against opponents who they know will shoot back (Iraq was a miscalculation, not a deliberate 10 year project). They like starting fights with Grenada and Panama (there's a pair of military powerhouses for you). They'll get Fox Noise (and now maybe Matt Lauer, if he's not already with them by Inauguration Day) to try to fan the flames of public outcry over something they know isn't there. Where Obama preferred fighting by more cerebral methods, Hillary Clinton knows full well how to join a congressional fistfight, and give at least as good as she gets. She was right there with Bill when they tried it with him, and knows every dirty trick in their arsenal.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)and give at least as good as she gets."
meow2u3
(24,829 posts)Who appointed them lords and masters of the United States government?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,337 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)This is the reason I didn't support Hillary. It's not because I didn't think she wouldn't make an outstanding President. It's because just like President Obama was the reason the racists came roaring out of under a rock, she's going to be the reason misogyny goes nuclear in the next 4 or 8 years.
We haven't seen anything yet.
It's just deflates my energy completely.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)For Freddie
(79 posts)not Anarchists or "Illuminati" or other confections just old fashioned Amurikan Organized Crime model. Once again, "FOLLOW THE MONEY" indict like Trump is facing with his Rico mess coming up.Investigate, follow the money again back upstream. Do due diligence. Who PAYS these idiots to do the dance, put on the 1950's performance?
We need some nice fresh mellennials out there turning
over rocks and aggressively going after each congressional district.
The party allowed these idiots because they were all vulnerable and have suspicious case histories. Get Forensic Psychiatrists on the team and root out their illegal and often shocking dealings. Both financially and criminally. It really doesn't take much investigation and digging. Each and everyone of them is greatly flawed and easy targets to investigate and expose. So many are closeted in their private lives and sex lives, past case histories. Find out what monster behind them pays them to dance.
They so fear being outed. So they are made to dance and perform in ways that are ghastly and inhuman.And that isn't digging into financials.
So many come on as fugazi Christians and homophobic because they have been recruited to do this dance specifically because they are vulnerable. To appeal to the old base which was heavy in the WWII generation which is going and gone. They had to manufacture a similar base from a culture no longer producing
those more narrow reactionary belief systems of the past. And it is down now to the House and it is shredding outside of it. Concentrated racism, misogyny,violence, Guns Guns Guns all appeal to the greatest fears of a group of folk who do not adapt well to change. All they have now to sell is Fear, Obstruction, and Outrage. It is a cartoon. But it is a cartoon with its hands on our
government. They have to go. They can go hard or they can go easy.Their main mission was to slow change so everyone could protect their money. Now that time is up.
So... lets shred the House with information, technology, investigation and one by one shine day light and the true nature of
each idiot. The louder they are the more in trouble and under pressure they are from those who dump money on them and make then dance. These are NOT independent thinkers.
Grover Norquist once said in the end the generations were going to shift and change and he would probably become a squishy
Liberal Hippie. The smart ones got out a while back. What we got left in the House is the dregs. And the dregs are not very smart and are VERY VERY COMPROMISED.And they ARE afraid.
P.S. I just read an old article on Guardian Uk written by Grover
about his experiences at Burning Man a few years ago. He loved it. Times they are a Changing. Do not buy into the Dance.
Investigate and dig deep. They want you to buy into fear and outrage because that's all they got going for me. Everything they are selling no one wants anymore.
lillypaddle
(9,585 posts)I don't know what to say any more. There are those who are trying to destroy our county and I don't honestly know if they can be stopped. Under different circumstances, Hillary Clinton could be the best POTUS. This is what President Obama has been dealing with. Damn. All things considered, and in spite of this SHIT, he has done an incredible job. I am just speechless. What will become of us? What kind of America is waiting for my granddaughter?
cstanleytech
(26,487 posts)novel The Handmaid's Tale.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I feel sorry for the younger generation. He's 33 and luckily in Canada where his college degrees are appreciated and he has a full-time job that interests him and a great career going.
In this country, not so much
llmart
(15,681 posts)You took the words right out of my mouth. I have a granddaughter too and I think about this every single day. What has happened to this country? Why are these idiots even in any place of power? They belong behind the counter at Burger King. What happened to valuing intellectualism in our leaders? Now we have a bunch of immature jerks and a presidential candidate who looks and acts on a level with Bozo the Clown. How did we get this way?
I am truly saddened and disgusted.
Bonhomme Richard
(9,007 posts)reconfigured with different alliances.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Where will the $$$ come from? These people are so stooooopid
Wednesdays
(17,817 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)the day after she wins the election
I really hate being right all the time when it comes to how far these degenerate anarchists will go to destroy their own government
Trump would use the socalled Conservative Caucus to purge the house and senate of anyone who does not do his bidding
He has already stated in so many words that he will purge the judicary and the Pentagon of anyone who stands in his way
2016 is 1933 revisited in ways too many to count