Sanders: Clinton needs to 'get away from all of this personality stuff' with Trump

[EricMaundry]

Source: Politico

Bernie Sanders offered some pointed advice to Hillary Clinton on Friday in the upcoming presidential debates and beyond, as the Democratic nominee looks to shore up support amid sagging poll numbers, particularly among younger voters.

Heading into the first debate in 10 days, Sanders told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that nobody would question her intelligence or knowledge of the issues.

"I think what she has got to do is contrast, get away from all of this personality stuff, which media focuses on every single day. And start talking about the real issues."

The American people do not agree with Trump," Sanders said, suggesting a few questions, including, "Mr. Trump, do you really think that billionaires need a massive tax break? Mr. Trump, do you really think that when the entire scientific community tells us that climate change is real and a threat to the entire planet, that you think it's a hoax?

What's your scientific basis for that? Mr. Trump, tell me what you're going to do? You want to abolish the Affordable Care Act for 20 million in this country off health care. How many are going to die, how many are going to become much sicker? What's your view on taking on the drug companies? You go issue by issue and I think you expose him for the fraud that he is."


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-personality-228272

[DURHAM D]

1. oh brother...

[Raven]

3. I think he's right but

but maybe she's saving that for the debates.

[DURHAM D]

5. She isn't driving it.

Trump and the media is. Do you want her to remain mute for the new 50 days like a good little girl?

[Jim Dandy]

9. Trump is running a gossip tabloid campaign

You want Hillary to play by his rules?

[DURHAM D]

12. It is the media's game.

I assume you want her to lose so you can score some "I told you so points".

No thanks

[Jim Dandy]

14. You're right

Things are going really well right now. Let's cut the crap and get back to talking about Hillary's health.

[DURHAM D]

22. That is dandy Jim. nt

[Jim Dandy]

27. I live to bring joy to others, Bull.

[kacekwl]

19. Since when is addressing issues

being mute ?

[DURHAM D]

20. The media will not report policy positions.

Are you paying attention?

[misterhighwasted]

32. Exactly. They have censored her from the beginning.

Media has been one long TV ad blitz for Trump.
They created him.

[William769]

47. They smell blood in the water, expect the attacks to intensify.

I know you know who I mean.

There's only one problem smelling blood in the water, they don't know who it belongs to.

[kacekwl]

50. So then the plan is to

be as vile as Trump . Sadly I an paying attention.

[DURHAM D]

51. obviously you are not

[thesquanderer]

23. Sounds like she's already decided to shift away from the personality stuff...

see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141573879

but looking at the comments here, I get the feeling some people seem to think it's a bad idea simply because Bernie said it.

[DURHAM D]

26. It is as if Bernie has not been paying attention

to what the media is doing since the primary ended.

[lark]

56. I heard that when Bernie gave a speech for Clinton, his support was very tepid.

I didn't hear it myself and just hope this is usual msm BS trying to bring her down. If they were right, shame on him and I love Bernie, or at least I loved his position on the issues.

[anamandujano]

63. I saw part of his interview on Seth Myers last night. Tepid is the word.

Too much ego and yes he criticized Hillary. He says he's going to hold feet to the fire whoever wins. He acts like Clinton never expressed interest in issues he claims to be his own.

I had to turn it off. Appalling.

[LiberalLovinLug]

68. OMG holding her feet to the fire!!

Good for him!
Bernie is playing his hand perfectly. He represented almost half of the Democratic voters by the end of the primary, and even more would agree with the majority of his platform (they just want Clinton to be the one to oversee it) . And he also has a large sway with the independents. It was almost amusing to watch those in here that were smearing Sanders had to bite their tongues hard when Bernie, on a dime, expressed he was all in for Hillary and would work to help her.

But that support is conditional. If she thinks she can simply ignore half of the Dem base and veer sharp right once in office, I expect, and would fully support Sanders public criticism of broken promises to the 99%. We'll see. For now, and until the election is over, he, and I and most of his supporters, are giving Hillary the benefit of the doubt. Because the alternative is hell. But the revolution will go on to work to finally have at least one viable party that is not bought and sold by the corporate class.

[Kathy M]

70. ^ The more I heard Sanders earlier in the year , above is what turned me away from him

[lark]

72. Used to think he was so high minded and un it for us.

His own ego has started over shadowing the message.

[anamandujano]

74. He's certainly not helping. Seth looked confused.

I used to like him also.

I'm going to be skipping all Bernie threads from now on so I don't get banned.

[SMC22307]

80. LOL

[elleng]

35. I think you're right.

Too bad it's not a surprise. Some just don't want to leave the 'negative' mode, looks like.

[Rose Siding]

53. If she's already done it, why is he piling on? Nothing she does will ever be pure enough for him

is the correct answer.

[thesquanderer]

60. I didn't see Morning Joe, did it sound like he was piling on?

Maybe he was simply supporting what she said she was going to do. Either that, or the two of them could have independently come to the same perspective. I mean, if we don't know whether he had read page A15 of the Times before appearing on Morning Joe this morning, we don't know whether he knew she had already made that shift herself. Anyway, without hearing it myself, I'm not going to characterize the tone or nuance of what he had to say.

[pnwmom]

41. She can't MAKE the media start focusing on her policy ideas and speeches.

It's not her fault they'd rather criticize her for her personality.

If Bernie had been Bernice, Bernice would never have gotten away with Bernie's style. It was only acceptable because he was male.

[DURHAM D]

49. This -

[JustAnotherGen]

2. Disagree Senator Sanders

[SunSeeker]

30. +1. Calling out Trump's bigotry is not "personality stuff." nt

[Cobalt Violet]

4. the talk of issues died when Bernie left the race.

He's right as usual. I can't wait for the debates.

[misterhighwasted]

37. And as soon as Bernie left the race, the Media ad-blitz for Trump began.

Media has NEVER shown Hillary on the issues or even talked about her platform.
Here it is. Same list since day one. When is the last time anyone made her issues a point of discussion on any TV News show?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016167026

WHEN?

There's a big obvious reason why she has been censored throughout this campaign.
By Both TV and Social Media .

[smirkymonkey]

76. +1000

[pnwmom]

42. He's wrong. It's not Hillary's fault the media would rather focus on how likable she is

than what she has been saying.

[Blue_Adept]

6. Yes, let's talk about issues and have the media ignore us even more

Because that's all THEY focus on.

Thankfully, Clinton does BOTH. She'll nail Trump on things, along with surrogates, but she's hitting the campaign trail and talking about the issues - especially issues that are important locally to people. We've seen story after story about how that resonates and makes an impact.

Yeah, polling of likely voters nationally is tight. But that's like polling a group of friends about something that only a couple of them are actually interested in and will participate in and then altering your plans to suit them.

Screw that.

[BlueInPhilly]

7. If only..

the media was interested in such stance. They are not.

He just described the John Kerry method. Not winning.

[Snotcicles]

8. That is good advice he is giving. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

45. No! It's bullshit! It's not HRC's fault that the Media simply refuses to focus on policy issues.

Bernie is full of shit here. Sorry, but he is.

[Snotcicles]

65. I disagree. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

78. That's your right, but...

Why? Either HRC controls what the media does or she doesn't.

Sanders have shitty advice.

[pnwmom]

48. Oh, really. The media never bothers to cover Hillary's policy speeches or

the release of her position papers.

How is that her fault?

If Bernie had been Bernice, and had done everything exactly as Bernie did, she would never have gotten elected Senator, much less have the possibility of being elected President. The American public doesn't appreciate women politicians who are as ambitious and tough as men.

[SunSeeker]

10. Where have you been, Bernie? She has. The media won't cover it.

She has given numerous policy speeches. In every campaign speech she gives she discusses policy and contrasts herself with Trump. "BORING!" says the MSM. They only want to write about gaffs, personal attacks and fake Clinton scandals. It's all about click bait with the MSM.

[George II]

11. The last thing Clinton needs from Sanders is advice on how to run a Presidential campaign.

[DURHAM D]

13. Amen. nt

[Me.]

16. Precisely

[George II]

24. Didn't even come close to "winning", but you can replay the primaries again if you want.

[pangaia]

29. Uh, George, if I am not mistaken, you are the one who brought up the primary.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[George II]

31. Where?

[pangaia]

33. Here..

11. The last thing Clinton needs from Sanders is advice on how to run a Presidential campaign.

[George II]

59. And? Still haven't shown me.

[LanternWaste]

64. It's ethically convenient to cower behind implication.

It's ethically convenient to cower behind implication. Often, our bias demand it of us, yet the choice is eventually ours to make.

[NWCorona]

21. Lol he'll never do right by you.

[lunamagica]

28. ICAM. He is talking about fantastic, ideal circumstances...but Hillary has to campaign in the REAL

world. Apparently., SBS hasn't heard her policy speeches. That is because the media is not interested. So she has to fight anyway she can

[misterhighwasted]

38. Thank you.

She has been censored from day one. We all know why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016167026

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

46. Uh-huh!!

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

15. Yes we know by now that nothing Trump does or says is going to matter to x no. of people - however

its really the news media (aka the INFOTAINMENT INDUSTRY) that loves conflict and the back and forth and will frame everything in personal conflict terms no matter what - its all about creating good clickbait headlines these days, not objective informative reporting.

Is Hillary really not saying these things or is the media not reporting them. Even progressive media seems to be fixating on every little outrageous thing Trump says and ignoring Hillary. I listed to Steph Miller day after that military forum to hear what was said, and it was nothing but excerpts from Trump and how outrageous it was. Literally clip after clip. Same with NPR.

I want to hear more of HRC - the more I hear her articulate things the more I like her. Cant overcome 30 yrs of conservative demonization overnight - frankly even people on our side have internalized that demonization. I know I have - but Im working on it!.

[Jade Fox]

17. Agree. Engaging with Trump on his level......

only brings HRC down to his level, and makes it look like he's playing her. Trump is a master of manipulation.

Yes, the media loves the "he said, she said" bullshit, and ignores serious debate. Not sure what to do about that.

[ffr]

25. It's the VP candidates job to be attack dog. Always has.

The presidential candidate typically takes the high road and looks presidential. Hillary's numbers may have dropped a little because of getting off that message. Not sure where Kaine has been campaigning, but he's been brilliant thus far at the VP's roll. Let him make tabloid headlines and let Hillary present her case on a positive message.

And as mentioned, she needs to add focus to attracting the 18 - 34 y.o. block, presenting the case for Stein protest voters to unite with the party. She may have to visit college campuses to do so, since the 15% that are supporting Stein may be nearly complete unplugged from the media. Traditional ads will probably not reach them.

[NWCorona]

40. That's a big reason why Obama picked Biden.

[Arazi]

67. Millennials don't vote remember?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Good advice from Bernie.

[pnwmom]

44. You must not have watched the Commander in Chief forum.

Hillary answered the questions thoroughly and intelligently, but the media graded Trump on a curve -- he did well because he surpassed their worst expectations.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

61. Yeah, I don't watch a lot of television... missed that.

[smirkymonkey]

77. For republicans, anything better than a drooling moron is above the curve for the MSM.

The bar is set so low for them basically all they have to do is be breathing and standing.

[murielm99]

75. Mansplainin' from Bernie.

If that is all he has, he should stay home.

[Maven]

36. The media is driving the "personality stuff" Bernie

I'm sure Hillary would be THRILLED to have a campaign about issues.

[still_one]

39. Why would Bernie even go on a national show and do this? It makes no sense. From all reports he is

in contact with Hillary and the Clinton campaign, and in fact is going to Ohio, and other battleground states to campaign for her.

These type of suggestions he should be personally discussing with Hillary and her campaign, not Joe Scarbourgh

Also, it is the media that is pushing the "personality stuff", and all what he refers to as non-issues. The campaign does need set the agenda, and not let the media do it. The media will do everything in their power to divert away from the issues, and it is the campaigns job to see that doesn't happen.

At the same time when lies and distortions are reported, the campaign cannot ignore them. That is what happened with John Kerry's swift boating. It was too little too late. In other words, she has to be in front of it on both tracks.

[randome]

55. Because, just like he is in the Senate, he is disdainful of talking to colleagues one-on-one.

His 'pure' philosophy didn't land him the nomination, did it? You'd think it might occur to him that he isn't up to snuff when it comes to political strategy.
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[Liberal_Stalwart71]

43. What the fuck? The MEDIA is doing this to HRC. She's not responsible for the hatred that the MSM

is pushing.

I don't understand Sanders sometimes.

Same with Obama. He blames Obama for Republican obstruction! I just don't get it. He sees with is own two eyes what's going on and how HRC and Obama are being treated? Why is he blaming THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!

[misterhighwasted]

52. How bout Bernie start telling the MEDIA what they should be doing instead of Hillary

Media created Trump
HIillary created Hillary

Fking use your voice to attack the MEDIA.

[gwheezie]

54. We must respond to bigots

Why would any progressive recommend sticking to policy when bigots attack?

[LiberalFighter]

57. Why is he making this public? It doesn't help Clinton to win.

[EricMaundry]

58. I think some people have missed Bernie's point

It wasn't about blaming who is responsible for this mess, or why the media is at fault. He is hoping this campaign could become more about real issues than reality TV bullshit. That is Trump's milieu, reality TV. The game is being played in his court, and that is why he is doing as well as he is.

Hillary needs to nail him on the issues. Hopefully the Orange Chicken will show up for the debates and the real issues will sink his lying ass.

[gwheezie]

62. One of the real issues is racism

I don't know how you ignore it

[YOHABLO]

66. The Media has turned it into tabloid tit-for-tat. I can't bear watching CNN or MSNBC,

Every single show is Trump Trump Trump. The so-called news died years ago. Maybe Hillary should wait and hit a grand slam in the debates. She's so smart and so prepared she'll slam Trump down like a tsunami.

[ailsagirl]

69. Remember what happened to John Kerry...

and those Swift Boat freaks-- they kept after him and he remained silent. Ultimately, it did damage him.

I hate this back-and-forth too, but I also think that if HRC doesn't call him on his BS that he'll certainly benefit.

[Taitertots]

71. It's politics. No one wants to hear reasonable discussions about policy

They want the personal attacks and insults.

In today's political climate, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog could become President. "That's a great political commentary... For me to poop on!"

[JI7]

73. SHE is already doing it. i understand his point but it's not Clinton

that is doing it.

[MyNameGoesHere]

79. See this is why I like Sanders

He is doing everything in his power to defeat tRump. Just like he promised. He never promised to help Clinton. So he is a man of his word.