4 Dead in Seattle-Area Mall Shooting, Gunman on the Loose, Say Police

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Source: ABC News

By David Caplan | Sep 23, 2016, 11:35 PM ET



A gunman is on the loose after four people were fatally shot Friday night at a shopping mall about 65 miles north of Seattle, Washington State Patrol said.

The shooting occurred at Cascade Mall in Burlington, Washington.

"4 confirmed deceased in the mall, shooter(s) left scene b4 police arrived, unknown # of shooter, possibly just 1, police clearing mall now," Sgt. Mark Francis, a public information officer with Washington State Patrol tweeted at 8:03 p.m. local time.

As of 8:35 p.m. local time, police were still hunting for the suspect.





Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/report-active-shooter-mall-burlington-washington/story?id=42321253

[Aristus]

1. GODDAMMIT! LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT IN TEXAS, OR SOME FUCKING PLACE!

This is Washington! We're better than that!...

[uppityperson]

2. Burlington mall? Seriously wtf.

[love_katz]

3. Agree.

[Aristus]

5. I was born and raised in Texas. But I no longer live there for a REASON!

Thank you...

[Cicada]

30. No disgrace being from Texas, only a disgrace having to go back

From the great Texas philosopher Kinky Friedman

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

41. I'm sure the state is better for you having left!

Thank you.

[Aristus]

45. I wouldn't be too sure.

The place seems to have really gone to Hell...

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

46. I'd rather live with the stupid yahoos

than arrogant people who hate my state.

[Aristus]

53. I don't hate Texas. I hate what it has become.

It may be unfair of me to compare my cherished memories of growing up there with the sort of political realities I was unaware of as a kid. But I often wonder if Texas has taken a step backward, not from where it should be today, but even from where it was when I was young.

We attended my grandparents' Baptist church on Sundays when I was little, and the sermons were about love, mercy, forgiveness, and brotherhood.

My brother and I attended a service at the same church twenty years later, and the pastor was thundering hatred against gays, lesbians, liberals, pacifists, social justice movements, etc.

I realize that the unpleasant events convulsing Texas right now may just be the last gasp of a dying way of life; the petty, mean, hateful, selfish, distrusting way of life of the white power structure. And that we may be looking forward to a new True Blue Texas sometime in the future. But it can't come soon enough.

[Gothmog]

52. Texas will turn blue

There are a ton of good Democrats working to turn Texas blue

[CarrieLynne]

12. +1

this is so bad

[Missn-Hitch]

17. LOL! No doubt.

Resident since 2009 - that's why I moved here. Cheers!

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

25. BULLSHIT.

"1. GODDAMMIT! LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT IN TEXAS, OR SOME FUCKING PLACE!

This is Washington! We're better than that!..."



Let me repeat. BULLSHIT.

Love the anti-south, anti-Texas, anti-Florida crap by the holier-than-thou jerks on this board./sarcasm

Report me.

[KatyMan]

26. Hear hear!

Really tired of that crap

[Hangingon]

27. Amen Mom!

[Duckhunter935]

28. Yep, and that crap is allowed to stand

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

39. I'm tempting to make a list of the southern bashers

And they're so damn cocky they would probably willingly add their name to a list if I posted one!

[muriel_volestrangler]

29. Though the Texas homicide rate is 67% worse than Washington's

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide.htm

5.2 and 3.1. So, objectively, Texas is worse than Washington. Though a lot of the rest of 'the south' is worse than Texas.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

31. And?

And does Washington have the same level of socioeconomic factors that contribute hugely in higher crime rates?

[muriel_volestrangler]

33. Why did you need an 'and'? You said 'bullshit', and I showed you were wrong.

What socioeconomic factors are you claiming increase the Texas homicide rate? Would they possibly be partly due to Texas's deplorable habit of electing far too many Republicans? That would be the kind of thing that people wish to leave behind.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

34. Check out our top ten most wanted.

And ask yourself if the majority of the crimes are committed by us white Texas yahoos you hate so much. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/Texas10MostWanted/fugitives.aspx http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/texas10mostwanted/
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/Texas10MostWanted/stillWanted.aspx

I'm so sick of the Texas put downs I'll probably get get alerted for linking the above, but I'm tired of fighting back without facts.


And "leave behind?" I'm really going to leave my home because I don't like the repubs who run my state?

Are you fucking kidding me? I'm not going to throw a fit and "leave behind" my family, my friends, and my home. I'll stay and try to change it.

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. What has that got to do with 'socioeconomic factors'? Or your homicide rate?

What 'facts' are you planning on stating? I gave the facts about the homicide rates, showing Washington is better, although you'd called that 'bullshit'.

'Leave behind' comes from the use of "leave that fucking shit in Texas" in reply #1 - the one you replied to.

Texas is doing poorly on gun control. For instance, the idiotic new university campus gun law. That kind of thing is a factor in the murder rate.

Oh, hang on, now I get it - you're whining that you're white, and you think that's an excuse for having a high homicide rate. No, it's not. No one is blaming your rate on you being white, either.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

36. So, the people you dislike in Texas

are not the "white yahoos?"

Those weren't the people you were blaming for the crime rate?

I know exactly who you intensely dislike in Texas, so I just pointed out who is committing a large part of the crime in Texas.

I hate it when people use tragedies to score political points, especially when they aren't helping any democratic causes with their bullshit.

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. You're the one who is trying to blame your crime rate on ethnic groups

I just pointed out Washington has, objectively, a better record on murder than Texas, which you claimed wasn't true.

"I know exactly who you intensely dislike in Texas" - you don't know shit, frankly. I didn't say anything about not liking Texans (apart from, arguably, Republicans). But if you think you are helping any democratic cause by "pointing out who is committing a large part of the crime in Texas" by saying "I'm white, it's not my fault", you're mistaken. Because you are parroting a Trump talking point there. I will admit I don't like people who blame minorities for crime.

I can see why you think your posts might get hidden. They are deplorable. Have you thought of getting out of the basket?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

38. You hate Texas. Because of the white yahoos.

So when you bring up Texas, I know EXACTLY who you are talking about. And you know it, too. Don't even bother to deny it.

It's people like you who don't live here who push so many white folks to the Republican party.

Do you really think that when you all make fun of Texas, or Florida, or any other state in the south, you aren't directing your vitriol at one group of people - white folks? Do you really fucking think you are going to help turn the south blue? I know so many Republicans who are "this close" to voting for Hillary, but, unfortunately, shit comments like yours do nothing to endear them to the Democratic Party.

(And if you understood how socioeconomic factors affect crime, you would understand why Texas and California, for instance, differs greatly in crime rates from states like Montana and Maine.)

[uppityperson]

42. Thank you for your sympathy toward those impacted by this shooting, and for continuing to kick

this thread.

No TX hate from me, just pain for all hurt by others.

[muriel_volestrangler]

47. Yes, I deny it. I hadn't thought about 'white v. non-white' at all; I was just pointing out a fact

about the murder rate which you had called 'bullshit'. After that, you started on the "don't blame whites, blame minorities for Texas murders" shit which it's appalling to see trotted out on DU. I didn't say anything at all about ethnicity - it was you.

Your comments are the worst sort of race-based fearmongering. They are exactly what Trump supporters say. My comment was "Texas has a higher murder rate than Washington", but you tried to take that as blaming white people, and then decided to blame non-white people instead. Pointing out a simple fact has caused you to explode like Trump on a bad day.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

48. No, your original comment was

" GODDAMMIT! LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT IN TEXAS, OR SOME FUCKING PLACE!

This is Washington! We're better than that!... "



To which I based my replies. Do really think that when you spew shit like that, I think you are basing your hatred towards all Texans equally? I ain't that stupid, hon. (Said in my best Texas accent.)

I know that you see "white" Texans, and "white" southerners" when you write crap like that, which is why I responded about the crime statistics.

[muriel_volestrangler]

49. You will find that comment was made by Aristus, not by me

but I am still appalled that you resort to race-baiting to excuse the Texas murder rate. Aristus didn't mention race, either.

"I ain't that stupid, hon." But you are that paranoid.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

50. It's called socioeconomic factors

And race-baiting is based on lies. Crime ridden areas with complex socioeconomic factors produce more crime. Period. Low crime states like Vermont just don't have the same issues.

[muriel_volestrangler]

51. "race-baiting is based on lies" - so why did you bring up race, then?

You tried to paint whites as unjustly accused, and instead put the blame for the higher Texas murder rate on non-whites. If you think that's based on lies, why did you do it?

The state being compared with Texas is Washington, by the way.

[Aristus]

54. No. That was my comment.

n/t

[uppityperson]

4. Some local links, nothing new yet but check later

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/authorities-looking-for-gunman-in-burlington/
http://www.kiro7.com/news/north-sound-news/authorities-looking-for-active-shooter-after-reported-shooting-at-cascade-mall/449595663
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/crime/article103859201.html#storylink=latest_side

[pnwmom]

6. Have you heard anything about whether the victims were together/related

or whether they were just random individuals?

[uppityperson]

7. Not yet, nothing new but checking.

[lib87]

8. SMH

I hate these shootings.

I hope the killer is caught before harming anyone else.

[Javaman]

9. just another hour in america. nt

[musicblind]

10. I'm deeply disturbed by the republicans on twitter who are begging for this shooter to be Muslim.

In fact, they are now arguing against reports that he is Hispanic, claiming that he has to be Arab and authorities must be confused...

[uppityperson]

13. I was just reading those also, act the picture of the shooter. It is disgusting.

I fear for so many, with this extreme nastiness.

[musicblind]

20. They hate so much, they actually seem to WANT terrorist attacks to happen.

I know this isn't the case for all conservatives, but many of them have holes in their soul. They have deep, dark, bottomless pits where normal people have hearts. They weren't always like that, but that is what happens when you so many years locked in a bunker with all that hate.

[Frank Cannon]

11. It's hard to worry about the constant gun violence in the US.

Because it happens every day, there's nothing you can do to prevent it, and absolutely no one in authority gives a shit about it.

It's almost like if I go downtown tomorrow and die a sudden, bloody death in a hail of bullets... well,it was just bound to happen sooner or later.

Such is life in our great United States.

[napi21]

14. I disaaaagree that nobody in authority GAS. I think they care very much, but

they really don't know what to do and still comply with the 2nd Amendment, or at least how it's been interpreted. That plus the high influence the NRA has on our lawmakers.

[freeplessinseattle]

15. Uneffing real! I used to shop there in the 90's

And had co workers from the mall in Bellingham who worked at the branch there too.

My mom still goes shopping there sometimes,on her way home from visiting me!

I read two elderly ladies were shot, so my heart skipped a beat, but doubtful she would be there tonight, and is 70, so not exactly elderly yet, but still, just wish she would text me back!

[MowCowWhoHow III]

18. Burlington gun attack: Four women shot dead at US shopping centre

Burlington gun attack: Four women shot dead at US shopping centre

Four women have been shot dead and a man critically injured at a shopping centre in Burlington, Washington state.

Police have released a picture of the suspected gunman, who fled the scene armed with a rifle.

The Cascade Mall and nearby shops have been evacuated and police have asked the public to stay away. The motive for the attack is not clear.

The suspect, described as a "Hispanic male wearing grey", was seen heading towards the Interstate 5 motorway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37460461

[Baclava]

19. another look

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Saw a new CNN banner about 6:35 am ET that a 5th person has died.

[MowCowWhoHow III]

23. Five dead in Washington state mall shooting, gunman on the run

Five dead in Washington state mall shooting, gunman on the run

Los Angeles (AFP) - Police were searching Saturday for a gunman who killed five people during a shooting at a mall in the US state of Washington, amid a raging national debate over gun control.

Four women and one man were killed, police said in an updated toll. The man had been taken to hospital with life-threatening injuries, but died there, police spokesman Sergeant Mark Francis said.

Authorities say there was only one shooter in Friday night's attack at Cascade Mall in Burlington, located about 70 miles (110 kilometers) north of Seattle, describing him as a Hispanic male wearing a gray shirt.

Police released a closely cropped still from video surveillance of the young-looking suspect showing only his head and torso, though the full picture, published by local media, showed him holding what appeared to be a rifle.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/least-4-dead-shooting-washington-state-mall-police-034812226.html

[truthisfreedom]

24. picture

[Abouttime]

32. This is horrible

Doesn't look like a terrorist but another disturbed young white man with a rifle.
I can't see clearly but it looks somewhat like an sks.
F¥€{ the NRA!! Right wing trumpists supporting terrorism by flooding our country with guns!

[uppityperson]

43. Just released more pictures

[uppityperson]

40. 5 dead, here's more Picts of the murderer. Rifle recovered @ scene

Basic story
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/authorities-looking-for-gunman-in-burlington/

Video, pictures
http://www.kiro7.com/news/north-sound-news/authorities-looking-for-active-shooter-after-reported-shooting-at-cascade-mall/449595663
https://m.facebook.com/KIRO7Seattle/photos/a.119068864779542.15053.112779115408517/1326972847322465/?type=3

[CarrieLynne]

44. says 5 ppl dead this am....

http://www.king5.com/news/local/five-people-dead-in-cascade-mall-shooting-in-burlington/324940198