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Donald Trump Conducted Business With Communist Cuba During U.S. Embargo (Original Post) onehandle Sep 2016 OP
This is a big F**king deal.--twitter is catching it......... riversedge Sep 2016 #1
This guy is like a one man one stop Mafia situation! FrenchieCat Sep 2016 #25
well, maybe a story will BREAK about that. who knows?? riversedge Sep 2016 #63
But has anybody called Sean Hannity? eom saltpoint Sep 2016 #2
Ha! You betcha! nt babylonsister Sep 2016 #3
Please someone underpants Sep 2016 #4
Nice, underpants! (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2016 #20
Stole it from Tommy_Carcetti underpants Sep 2016 #33
lol!!! sarae Sep 2016 #29
. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2016 #31
Excellent! Woof. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2016 #40
Out-effing-standing!!! LOL!!! Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #54
Holy cow gademocrat7 Sep 2016 #5
But we play nice with Cuba nowadays. retrowire Sep 2016 #6
Yup. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2016 #9
The point is Trump was giving speeches supporting the embargo while he was violating it. kstewart33 Sep 2016 #13
He just lost old Cubans in Florida. onehandle Sep 2016 #14
Agree -- I was thinking of the demographics saltpoint Sep 2016 #15
every point counts nt retrowire Sep 2016 #17
They have 29 electoral votes. National candidates always try hard to woo the "exile" votes. Judi Lynn Sep 2016 #47
This will not change young Cuban-American voters viguy2016 Sep 2016 #39
Proceed with caution exboyfil Sep 2016 #7
Good point, good thinking bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #10
It's Kurt Eichenwald's piece... Princess Turandot Sep 2016 #16
Yes I just found the byline exboyfil Sep 2016 #19
Is that one of his novels? Princess Turandot Sep 2016 #23
Non-fiction about Enron exboyfil Sep 2016 #26
Ah. Thanks! nt Princess Turandot Sep 2016 #32
Cuba pre-Castro was a casino and gambling paradise bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #8
Most of those were related to the Gambino crime family lapfog_1 Sep 2016 #24
Good materiel for a long running spy novel bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #27
Gary Johnson: "And what is Cuba?" eom saltpoint Sep 2016 #11
LOL SunSeeker Sep 2016 #64
Good one! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #66
This + ties to Russia + no taxes shows Trump rurallib Sep 2016 #12
Sadly, his base hates Obama more than they love their country. 33taw Sep 2016 #37
They are delusional. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #53
FYI The Newsweek source article will be online at 6AM tomorrow (Thursday). nt Princess Turandot Sep 2016 #18
Florida is too close. Gman Sep 2016 #21
AWW and he wants Cuban votes in FL. Iliyah Sep 2016 #22
The Clinton Campaign better be all over TV advertisements Matthew Rose Sep 2016 #51
What a Liar Ccarmona Sep 2016 #28
Was he trying to open a hotel or casino? WhiteTara Sep 2016 #30
One article... Whoa_Nelly Sep 2016 #34
God only knows what he is doing with Russia. Better check with N.Korea too. Mamajami Sep 2016 #35
Buh Bye Florida Jim Dandy Sep 2016 #36
So, has the threshold been reached with this story? Is the Orange One gone? mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #38
Too late in many states to replace Trump on the ballot viguy2016 Sep 2016 #42
This is conspiracy to circumvent TWEA (Trading With the Enemies Act), a serious crime. ancianita Sep 2016 #41
Hasn't he also said he will end the recent thawing of relations book_worm Sep 2016 #43
The Gambino crime family was located in New York (Brooklyn) viguy2016 Sep 2016 #44
didn't GWB's grandfather get busted for trading with the enemy during WW2? olddad56 Sep 2016 #45
It may reach 2, eh, 3 Orange Menace supporters - tops! Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #46
Story: Did Donald Trump's Executives Violate the Cuban Embargo kerouac2 Sep 2016 #48
Yeah, I just found that too. Looks like Bloomberg was kicking the tires on the possibility... Bradical79 Sep 2016 #56
Michael Corleone and Hyman Roth Aviation Pro Sep 2016 #49
Where's the right-wing outrage??? Matthew Rose Sep 2016 #50
Being compressed and pushed down, way down. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #57
Now we'll wait for his Russian business dealings. Zing!!! SummerSnow Sep 2016 #52
This is a deliberate act of Treason turbinetree Sep 2016 #55
Naw. It's just doing business the Trump way. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2016 #58
Yepper......................... turbinetree Sep 2016 #59
Get 'em! Maeve Sep 2016 #60
As did Cheneys Halliburton with Iran randr Sep 2016 #61
Trump is a Crook and worse than Nixon! UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #62
He's going to claim... czarjak Sep 2016 #65

riversedge

(70,231 posts)
1. This is a big F**king deal.--twitter is catching it.........
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:23 PM
Sep 2016






Betty Retweeted
Muslim Momma ?@Muslimomma1 10m10 minutes ago

Muslim Momma Retweeted Kalliope Amorphous

Wow. Wow. Wow. Watching the quick intro on #Maddow... wow.

#castroconnection

Ready for full @kurteichenwald story tomorrow.

Muslim Momma added,
Kalliope Amorphous @KAmorphous
Wow. This hashtag needs to start right now. #castroconnection

@kurteichenwald
5 retweets 7 likes
Women For Hillary Retweeted





Kyle Griffin ?@kylegriffin1 5m5 minutes ago

Kyle Griffin Retweeted Maddow Blog

This is a big deal.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
13. The point is Trump was giving speeches supporting the embargo while he was violating it.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:35 PM
Sep 2016

It goes to character.

Yesterday he was in Florida telling Cuban Americans that he does not support better relations with Cuba.

When this story hits the Florida media, the Cuban Americans will or should be furious.

Trump is a liar.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
15. Agree -- I was thinking of the demographics
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:39 PM
Sep 2016

in Miami-Dade County.

When this story makes the headlines in the Miami Herald, Trump's odds in Florida will decline.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
47. They have 29 electoral votes. National candidates always try hard to woo the "exile" votes.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:07 PM
Sep 2016

Every four years they crowd themselves into the "exile" meeting place, the Versailles Café.

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Num-nums.





ETC. [/center]




 

viguy2016

(47 posts)
39. This will not change young Cuban-American voters
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:23 PM
Sep 2016

but the older Cuban-American voters will feel betrayed. Those are Trump voters or were.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
7. Proceed with caution
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:30 PM
Sep 2016

I am thinking the Bush National Guard Killian memos.

Do we trust the reporter that did this story to be able to back it up especially the part with Trump's knowledge?

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
10. Good point, good thinking
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:32 PM
Sep 2016

If it seems too good to be true ...

and someone's been sitting on this all this time and it surfaces NOW?

Lots of loose ends and credibility to verify.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
16. It's Kurt Eichenwald's piece...
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:40 PM
Sep 2016

He wrote the Newsweek piece on Trump's myriad and murky ties to Euro strongmen etc.
From what I can tell from journalists' comments online, he has a good rep as an investigative reporter.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
19. Yes I just found the byline
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:45 PM
Sep 2016

He wrote a book I really liked (Conspiracy of Fools). I have much more trust in him than a television journalist.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
8. Cuba pre-Castro was a casino and gambling paradise
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:30 PM
Sep 2016

And all those operators want their real estate returned to them.

Agree with OP, this is a REALLY big deal. The shell companies
supporting one another with secret deals, tax avoidance, payment
subterfuge - this is the Granddaddy of scandals so far.

Have they looked for Swiss Bank accounts and dug in the Cayman Islands yet?

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
24. Most of those were related to the Gambino crime family
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:57 PM
Sep 2016

Trump might have wanted to explore a casino for foreigners in Havana but I doubt Castro was interested.

OTOH, Trumps connections to Russians may go back a *lot* longer... and this investment exploration trip may have been ordered from Moscow which, at the time, still wanted to influence Castro but officially didn't have money on hand to continue the Communist client state relationship.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
12. This + ties to Russia + no taxes shows Trump
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:35 PM
Sep 2016

is not as invested in US success as we would like our presidents to be. Add in him hoping for a housing crash etc.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
53. They are delusional.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:46 PM
Sep 2016

We need to remember the politicians who proclaimed,

Trump can and will be our next POTUS!

We need to put a great big orange iron ball and chain on these people.

Our response after their meandering, incoherent rants about Hillary should be "Yeah. Well - you supported Trump".

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
28. What a Liar
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:59 PM
Sep 2016

Did he really think when he got the nomination, reporters wouldn't dig into his past dealings? He's gone out of way to piss on the media, (except Fox News) so turnabout is fair play.

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
38. So, has the threshold been reached with this story? Is the Orange One gone?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:22 PM
Sep 2016

And if so, who becomes the Republican nominee for POTUS? Pence? Or does Jeb Bush get drafted?

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
41. This is conspiracy to circumvent TWEA (Trading With the Enemies Act), a serious crime.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:26 PM
Sep 2016

Any conspiracy to violate the TWEA carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and fine of $250,000; any witness tampering charge carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison fine of $250,000 and the obstruction of justice count carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $250,000.

There are others who've been charged with trying to do business during the Cuban embargo. If there's evidence from Newsweek, this could be a Big Fucking Deal charge against Trump.

But most likely the election show will go on.

 

viguy2016

(47 posts)
44. The Gambino crime family was located in New York (Brooklyn)
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:51 PM
Sep 2016

Don the Con is from New York. For many years the Construction/Real Estate industry has had a close relationship with organized crime in New York. There have been many rumors of Donald doing business with them. At the time of this story, many European companies started building hotels/casinos in Cuba. There was never a law against Europeans doing business, traveling or vacationing in Cuba. Casinos were a big profit center for the Mob before Castro took power. It would make perfect sense for Donald to do the legwork for the Mob testing the waters as to business possibilities at that time.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
45. didn't GWB's grandfather get busted for trading with the enemy during WW2?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:55 PM
Sep 2016

yes he did, so why doesn't Valdimir Trump get arrested for this?

kerouac2

(449 posts)
48. Story: Did Donald Trump's Executives Violate the Cuban Embargo
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:07 PM
Sep 2016

Interesting story from Bloomberg a couple of months ago:

Did Donald Trump's Executives Violate the Cuban Embargo?
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-donald-trump-golf-cuba/
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
56. Yeah, I just found that too. Looks like Bloomberg was kicking the tires on the possibility...
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:04 AM
Sep 2016

I'm hoping the Newsweek article blows it wide open, and shines a light on a lot more of Trump's scheme.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
55. This is a deliberate act of Treason
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:55 PM
Sep 2016

and I am demanding an investigation, and will be calling my senator tomorrow and my worthless congressman for this criminal enterprise--------------now





leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
58. Naw. It's just doing business the Trump way.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:50 AM
Sep 2016

Why is this guy not in prison? It's just one investigation after another now. His companies, his Foundation. It's all just a huge scam. And he thinks that is smart business.

If you or I did this stuff we would be dressed in orange jumpsuits.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
59. Yepper.........................
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:21 AM
Sep 2016

I fully understand, but Treason is Treason, this country was in a state of a defacto WAR with the government of Cuba
.
If a democrat had done this he or she would be drawn and quartered. That's what they ( the scammers called the republican party have been running on ever since Kennedy was murdered).


The republicans and the lackeys supporting this criminal enterprise, keep forgetting that it was John Kennedy that expanded this embargo-------


You can look a republican right in the face and ask them do you think drumpenfurher who committed a crime should be thrown in jail for this and they say-------he didn't do anything wrong when the facts say other wise, what kind of kool aid do they drink over there, it sure isn't "law and order"

We need to get out an vote



randr

(12,412 posts)
61. As did Cheneys Halliburton with Iran
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 01:52 PM
Sep 2016

No one on the right cares about our ultimate security, it is all about power and money.

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