Trump Goes After Machado Again

[brooklynite]

Source: Talking Points Memo

In the situation Donald Trump is in with former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, any media professional or really anyone with a conscience would say this: "We quarreled many years ago. It's in the past. I truly wish her the best." Done and done.

But just an hour ago Trump went on O'Reilly to again trash Machado, now saying that he saved her job, gave her a shot at not being fat and this is the thanks he gets. Yes, he really said that. "You know, they wanted to fire her. The company itself wanted to fire her. I saved her job ... I saved her job because I said that's going to -- I did that with a number of young ladies. The staff itself (wanted to fire her). Look what happened. Look what I get out of it. I get nothing. A lot of things are coming out about her."

OREILLY: Other avenue they are going to come after you is the women card. They are going to say that you are a mean guy and you don't respect women. Do you have anything further to say on this Miss Universe thing?

TRUMP: No, not much. I hardly know this person. This was a person 20 years ago. She wasn't a successful, you know, I sold the Miss Universe contest for tremendous price about, you know, six months ago. Worked out great. So I don't have anything to do with it anymore. But I really enjoyed it when I had it. But this is a person, Bill that that was the first one under my ownership. She did not do well. She had a lot of difficulty. And, you know, they wanted to fire her. The company itself wanted to fire her. I saved her job. I will bet you if you put up and added up all the time I spoke to her probably less than five minutes. I mean, I wasn't -- I had nothing to do with this person, but they wanted to fire her. I saved her job because I said that's going to -- I did that with a number of young ladies. The staff itself. Look what happened. Look what I get out of it. I get nothing. A lot of things are coming out about her.

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[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Fox news is basically a free media channel for

Trump. The bastard is on there live day and night.

[C Moon]

18. +1

That's because he likes his news "fair and balanced."

[anneboleyn]

42. Yes, the allow him to call in all the time and blather on and on, regurgitating his talking points

over and over and over. This is especially the case on the morning "news" show Fox and Friends, O'Reilly's "no spin" show, and of course Trump's hero/bff Sean Hannity's show. When Greta was still on she would allow Trump to phone in "interviews" all the time, letting him talk at length, and even helpfully "explaining" the points he was "really" trying to make (her mysterious disappearance is very weird indeed -- she might have been part of the Roger Ailes debacle, who knows -- I expect she'll show up on CNN like Kirsten Powers or S.C. Cupp)

[vadermike]

2. Is

He stupid ??

[ColemanMaskell]

12. Is

that a serious question?

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. Sure sounds like he is.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. This tells you all one needs to know about

Con Job. What a pathetic POS. He just outdid his previous rants earlier today.

This Guy has some major issues going on.

[PSPS]

4. "I hardly know this person" reliably followed by a detailed account of "her faults."

[Foggyhill]

6. The latino vote in this election will be off the chart, historic

If they vote like they can, it will be a massive butt kicking.

With him losing the Cuban vote, he basically has no chance in Florida now.

[Monk06]

7. "I hardly know this person" (Who I publicly shamed in a press conference I set up 20 years ago)

It's over (except for the fact that Hillary put back into my brain and it won't go away)

[TeamPooka]

16. and "I get nothing." except that "tremendous price" he bragged about 60 seconds earlier.

[Skittles]

5. the guy just does not learn

he is pathetic

[roamer65]

8. Hey Cheeto...

What goes around, comes around...you f'ing son of a bitch.

[Tactical Peek]

9. Wow.

OREILLY: Other avenue they are going to come after you is the women card. They are going to say that you are a mean guy and you don't respect women. Do you have anything further to say on this Miss Universe thing?


That is one helluva probing question from O'Really. It just about encapsulates the fucked up state of affairs that Fox News and other Trump-boosting media have descended into.

[yardwork]

27. Still, the words "You're a mean guy and you don't respect women" were said.

That's not good optics.

[jberryhill]

10. What did he expect? The Universe is always expanding

[Cracklin Charlie]

11. Yeah, Assface,

She should be thanking you, right?

Forget that crap.

[trusty elf]

13. Trump is a grotesque caricature of a loutish, narcissistic buffoon.

It's very depressing the amount of support he has.

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[BainsBane]

14. I remember this stuff from when it happened

He seems to think things in the past just disappear and no one remembers, or that video evidence doesn't exist.

[moonscape]

15. Although I take your point, I've

seen no evidence of him thinking, ever.

[olddad56]

17. Donald, "what does she have to lose"? You have more to lose by trashing her than she does.

time to lay off the cocaine.

[cynzke]

20. ALL TRUMP HAD TO DO......

Was to admit that retrospectively, perhaps he was a bit harsh in calling her names, BUT that he and the contest also had some legitimate complaints as to how this 19 yr. old kid was not respecting and complying with the MU org. He had a chance to take the high road by acknowledging it was a minor mistake in judgment. Instead he is now doubling down and turning a minor issue FROM THE PAST into MAJOR issue in the present. Thus proving his ego is too fragile and he is UNABLE to recognize a mistake, let alone admit to it. Once again showing voters Trump lacks any moral compass and is unable to comprehend, let alone acknowledge mistakes he made. Trump can't even recognize the giant mistake he is making now, attacking Machado. Probably thinks this is "good" publicity.

[Stuart G]

21. Yes, I agree with what you have written....especially the following line......

. Trump can't even recognize the giant mistake he is making now, attacking Machado. Probably thinks this is "good" publicity.

thanks for posting..

[RobinA]

24. Doubling Down

is what he does 100% of the time. Bet on it every time. His emotional development seems to have stopped in elementary school.

If you added up his MAJOR unforced errors they would be in the hundreds since New Years Day 2016. The gift that keeps on giving.

[yardwork]

26. Imagine how Trump would handle any foreign policy issue.

[anneboleyn]

43. That is actually seriously scary. Every perceived "slight" would send him into a tizzy.

And he seems to think that the troops are there to save face for him, if some foreign leader is "not nice" to him. He has all of the diplomatic skill of a three-year-old.

[exboyfil]

30. The same as the with the Khans

Irrespective of your politics how can you imagine Trump interacting with world leaders and our political leaders?

As an episode of Better Call Saul highlighted it is like giving a chimp a machine gun.

Another analogy would be (if you are one who hates Clinton) then it is like turning over the organization to either Michael or Fredo Corleone.

[Dorian Gray]

22. Keep attacking

Trump. You're making yourself look petty and stupid and unable to admit fault.

You're making yourself look very unpresidential.

[KewlKat]

23. He's apparently "Khaning" Machado

we all know how well that worked out for him.

[yardwork]

25. "This was a person....under my ownership."

He said that.

[exboyfil]

31. Actually no

He was referring to his ownership of the pageant.

It would be a great quote if he actually said it though.

[yardwork]

32. Yes, I see what he said. But words matter.

Sure, the syntax was a little mangled and technically he meant his ownership of the pageant, but it is clear in context that Trump believes that ownership of the pageant meant, essentially, his ownership of people.

Trump treated the pageant winner as his property.

His behavior toward people reveals this attitude. It's consistent. Another example "There's my African American!" Sure, not literally true. But still.

People reveal what they are thinking in the words they say.

[gademocrat7]

28. He is a vindictive, cruel jerk.

[anneboleyn]

45. Seriously, he is SO INSECURE, hold grudges forever, and always blatantly lies

about people he has known -- like David Duke, or the Miss Universe winner, who Trump initially claimed not to know (!!!). Then the video of him shoving her in front of reporters for a work-out session while saying "hey we all have eating problems, even me" (I am paraphrasing -- his arrogant stunt thoroughly humiliated her) came out, and suddenly he remembered her very well, including every aspect of her life that he could blab to the media to distract everyone from his reprehensible behavior.

[Odin2005]

29. Looks like Trump has adopted the Reddit school of Fat-Shaming.

[Nay]

35. Yep. Women all need to be slim with big boobs, while eating 'like a man' so her

husband won't feel bad about stuffing his own fat face.

And since women's only value is their youth and looks, why, no one can understand why every woman isn't out there dieting and exercising to 'prove their worth.'

Honestly, it's fucking exhausting to have to fight this shit over and over.

[anneboleyn]

44. Reddit fat-shaming...pot meet kettle

[yellowcanine]

33. O'Reilly was trying to give him a chance to apologize and put it to rest.

Nice try Billo. Too bad your boy ain't gonna do that.

[karynnj]

34. This shows he still does not get it

There are likely more than "five minutes" captured on tape of him speaking of or to her. That video, where he is forcing her to exercise shows a beautiful, smiling woman -- who is not fat -- listening to what he tells her to do.

Not to mention, it looks like it was Trump's actions of calling her fat and bringing in the media to see her exercise that caused any bad PR there was. There is no way that looking exactly as she did, she could have not credibly finish her year as Miss Universe - doing whatever promotion was asked. Not to mention, he never paid her for the work she did. His creepy obsession with his own idealized idea of what a woman should look like may well have been the only problem.

[adigal]

36. He just can't let things go - now, people are all talking about this rather than his great "plans"

He is his own worst enemy. Which is great for us!

[Mc Mike]

37. Sold Miss Universe for a tremendous price, worked out great:

Last edited Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:05 AM - Edit history (1)

"Donald J. Trump has sold the Miss Universe Organization to the talent agency WME-IMG, the company announced on Monday.
The sale, the financial terms of which were not disclosed, came after a rough summer for the organization’s Miss USA beauty pageant in which two television partners dropped the broadcast in response to comments Mr. Trump made about illegal immigrants during his presidential campaign. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/business/media/trump-sells-miss-universe-organization-to-wme-img-talent-agency.html?_r=0#

He had to buy out his employer NBC's share, then sold it all within 3 days, then the business collapsed. He did great.

Then there's his great job with the PGA event at Doral, where the orange cannonmouth popped off a few too many times than were helpful for the sponsors' bottom lines, about Mexican immigrants and Mexicans, so the sponsors pulled out. Though the Doral Resort was the single most profitable business in the dRump business organization, his intemperate statements caused the major event held at it to move -- to Mexico. Doral City mayor Boria backed dRump's statements and gave him a key to the city, then the PGA pull out was a financial blow to the city and a threat to future investments by international businesses.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/pga-pulling-tournament-from-donald-trumps-doral-golf-course-moving-it-to-mexico-city-8493900

His performance and brags on these things seems similar to what it would be like if you came across your kid in the garage, and he's got the lawnmower taken completely apart, the gears are on the ground, the tires are off, there's nuts and bolts everywhere, the blade's laying over there, and as your foot slips on the oily spark plug, he says "look daddy, I fixted it!" That might be endearing, though time consuming and aggravating to deal with.

It's a lot less endearing when the kid is a large 70 year old overweight bald orange violent foul-tempered nasty-mouthed half-wiseguy nazi a hole egomaniac, and the mower is the economy, the country, and our planet.

[sarcasmo]

38. Idiot opens mouth, Idiot inserts foot.

[wordpix]

39. The straw horses "they" who "wanted to fire her" are starting to speak up

Heard a report on teevee this a.m. saying "they" did no such thing

[Tommy_Carcetti]

40. He might not be president, but he could always end up as a KFC spokesperson.

[riversedge]

41. TRUMP: No, not much. I hardly know this person. ha ha.

[anneboleyn]

46. An obese old man with a puffy orange face and a gross, greasy-looking brassy combover

should be criticizing beautiful women for not measuring up...Riiiiiight. He even criticized Melania for not losing all the baby weight when she had Barron in some ridiculous amount of time according to a reporter who was basically doing a fluff piece on them. Of course he shouldn't be making comments about ANY woman's weight (or any man's) period, full stop. But he seems to think that he was/is handsome, not obese and not ridiculous-looking with that orange mop on his head, which makes me laugh out loud -- what narcissism!