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elmac

(4,642 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:02 PM Oct 2016

Russia Withdraws From Plutonium Disposal Treaty

Source: The New York Times

MOSCOW — Saying relations with the United States have deteriorated into a “radically changed environment” of threat and instability, President Vladimir V. Putin withdrew Russia on Monday from a plutonium disposal treaty that was one of the framework nuclear disarmament deals of the early post-Cold War period.

The treaty, signed in 2000, required Russia and the United States to destroy military stockpiles of plutonium, the radioactive material used in some bomb cores, in a deal presented as yet another step away from nuclear doomsday.

The deal has no bearing on the numbers of nuclear weapons deployed by Russia or the United States. Instead, it concerns 34 tons of plutonium in storage in each country that might go into a future arsenal.

Still, the abrogation signals that the nuclear agreements that accompanied the breakup of the Soviet Union and were to lead the world back from the hair-trigger brink of atomic conflict could be open to revision, as Russia’s relations with the West sour on a range of disputes today, including Syria and Ukraine and the Kremlin’s interference in the domestic politics of Western democracies.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/world/europe/russia-plutonium-nuclear-treaty.html?_r=0



Russia up's the Cold War. I'm sure his KBG agents Trump and Julian ASSange will be happy with this news
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Russia Withdraws From Plutonium Disposal Treaty (Original Post) elmac Oct 2016 OP
Fuck Putin snooper2 Oct 2016 #1
Brilliant post. psychopomp Oct 2016 #18
When he's right, he's right. NT Adrahil Oct 2016 #19
Vote drumpf, or ve wyiul nyuke you. Love, Vlad Putin. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #2
Sickening! lark Oct 2016 #3
k+r Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #4
Putin is going to be a pain for Hillary her entire time. It's a shame really. yeoman6987 Oct 2016 #5
Not to mention how disrespectful the republicans are gonna be to her...... Old Vet Oct 2016 #22
i am starting to worry that russia will unleash some real chaos mopinko Oct 2016 #6
They can & will unleash some real chaos elmac Oct 2016 #7
That's right, Pootie, let's ramp up the chance of a nuclear conflict becasue the US won't Nitram Oct 2016 #8
I don't know where that leads you, though. Igel Oct 2016 #12
Quite clearly, neither. Nitram Oct 2016 #13
Holy shit. Putin has no shame. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #9
34 TONS - Great balls of Zeus packman Oct 2016 #10
Putin poisoned a journalist with polonium 210 elmac Oct 2016 #11
America and NATO needs to be prepared as Putin wants to rladdi Oct 2016 #14
and I would also include the GOP elmac Oct 2016 #15
".. killed hundreds of thousands of Americans over the years with their fascist agenda." EX500rider Oct 2016 #16
You're calling for a first strike on Russia? bananas Oct 2016 #17
Russia suspends nuclear agreement, ends uranium research pact with United States Eugene Oct 2016 #20
Clearly Russia is in the right here and the US has no one but itself to blame.... PersonNumber503602 Oct 2016 #21
This is just a way to try and influence US voters. nt fun n serious Oct 2016 #23

lark

(23,061 posts)
3. Sickening!
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:19 PM
Oct 2016

Putin is ready to destabilize the world just for vanity's sake, he and Drumpf are a pair made in heaven. One is already a dictator and the other wants to be a dictator. Only problem, we aren't having it and it isn't going to happen!

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. Putin is going to be a pain for Hillary her entire time. It's a shame really.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:27 PM
Oct 2016

I'd like her to concentrate more on issues in the United States but of course the world leaders will demand her attention.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
22. Not to mention how disrespectful the republicans are gonna be to her......
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 02:34 PM
Oct 2016

The republicans seem to have no moral compass at all with Obama, Just wait till they start with a Pres. Clinton.

mopinko

(69,998 posts)
6. i am starting to worry that russia will unleash some real chaos
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:37 PM
Oct 2016

close to the election, in hope of stirring up trump voters.
or at the very least, mucking up enough of the election systems to make people doubt the results.

if you are looking for the oct surprise, try sarah palin's front porch.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. They can & will unleash some real chaos
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:45 PM
Oct 2016

If we sit back and let them. I think we should freeze all Russian assets from Putin down, do a Cuba style embargo on Russia and do the same to any country that gives his agents safe haven like Ecuador

"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange cancelled a planned appearance to mark the 10th anniversary of his organization from the balcony of the Ecuadorian embassy in London over security fears on Monday".

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
8. That's right, Pootie, let's ramp up the chance of a nuclear conflict becasue the US won't
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:04 PM
Oct 2016

obey your commands. Let's increase the opportunities for terrorists to steal nuclear material and build a dirty bomb. The difference between Putin and Trump is that Putin is intelligent and disciplined.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
12. I don't know where that leads you, though.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:32 PM
Oct 2016

Do you want an intelligent and disciplined bad guy or a ramshackle, undisciplined bad guy?

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
13. Quite clearly, neither.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:35 PM
Oct 2016

I'm voting for Clinton. I consider Putin more dangerous than Trump - unless Trump get into office. Then he may be more dangerous to the U.S. than Putin. If Trump was as intelligent a nd disciplined as Putin, he'd win the election and try to turn us into a totalitarian state.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
10. 34 TONS - Great balls of Zeus
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:16 PM
Oct 2016

Plutonium is a mega killer. As I understand it , a bit as small as a grain of sand can kill you. May take some time, but deadly as shit.

"During and after the end of World War II, scientists working on the Manhattan Project and other nuclear weapons research projects conducted studies of the effects of plutonium on laboratory animals and human subjects.[93] Animal studies found that a few milligrams of plutonium per kilogram of tissue is a lethal dose.[94]

In the case of human subjects, this involved injecting solutions containing (typically) five micrograms of plutonium into hospital patients thought to be either terminally ill, or to have a life expectancy of less than ten years either due to age or chronic disease condition.[93] This was reduced to one microgram"

NOTE: Microgram is one millionth of a gram or One microgram is only 0.00000003527 ounces.

Above from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium




 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
11. Putin poisoned a journalist with polonium 210
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:22 PM
Oct 2016

he sure has a lot to work with now.

"It was probable, said the report, by a retired judge, Sir Robert Owen, that Mr. Putin and his spy chief at the time, Nikolai Patrushev, had approved an operation to kill Mr. Litvinenko, using a highly toxic and rare isotope, polonium 210."

rladdi

(581 posts)
14. America and NATO needs to be prepared as Putin wants to
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 04:45 PM
Oct 2016

start a war. We should be hitting Putin first. But that is against the principals of US Politicians. But we know that Trump can TAME Putin for his kind words and love him. Putin is much more dangerous then any other terrorist group, including ISIS and Donald Trump

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
15. and I would also include the GOP
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:52 PM
Oct 2016

as much more dangerous then any other terrorist group, including ISIS and Donald Trump. They have killed hundreds of thousands of Americans over the years with their fascist agenda.

EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
16. ".. killed hundreds of thousands of Americans over the years with their fascist agenda."
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:17 PM
Oct 2016

Both parties have had their wars..

Of the country's forty-four presidents, thirteen were serious war presidents—Madison, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Lyndon Johnson, Nixon, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Obama.

Madison: Democrat-Republican Party
Polk: Democratic Party
Lincoln:National Union Party
McKinley: Republican Party
Wilson: Democratic Party
FDR: Democratic Party
Truman: Democratic Party
Eisenhower: Republican Party
Johnson: Democratic Party
Nixon: Republican Party
GHW Bush: Republican Party
GW Bush: Republican Party
Obama: Democratic Party

bananas

(27,509 posts)
17. You're calling for a first strike on Russia?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:39 PM
Oct 2016

You wrote:

rladdi

14. America and NATO needs to be prepared as Putin wants to
start a war. We should be hitting Putin first. But that is against the principals of US Politicians.


Sounds like you're calling for a first strike on Russia.

Eugene

(61,813 posts)
20. Russia suspends nuclear agreement, ends uranium research pact with United States
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 01:02 PM
Oct 2016

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS | Wed Oct 5, 2016 | 12:51pm EDT

Russia suspends nuclear agreement, ends uranium research pact with United States

The Russian government said on Wednesday that it was suspending an agreement with the United States on co-operation in nuclear- and energy-related scientific research.

The government also said on its website that an agreement between the state nuclear energy firm Rosatom and the U.S. Department of Energy on feasibility studies into conversion of Russian research reactors from highly-enriched to low enriched uranium had been terminated.

(Reporting by Anastasia Lyrchikova and Lidia Kelly; Writing by Lidia Kelly; Editing by Richard Balmforth)


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-nuclear-uranium-idUSKCN12521J

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
21. Clearly Russia is in the right here and the US has no one but itself to blame....
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 02:18 PM
Oct 2016

Insert something about Ukraine, Georgia, Baltics, and nazis... blah blah blah blah.

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