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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:16 PM Oct 2016

IAEA chief: Nuclear power plant was disrupted by cyber attack

Source: Reuters

A nuclear power plant became the target of a disruptive cyber attack two to three years ago, and there is a serious threat of militant attacks on such plants, the head of the United Nations nuclear watchdog said on Monday.

International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director Yukiya Amano also cited a case in which an individual tried to smuggle a small amount of highly enriched uranium about four years ago that could have been used to build a so-called "dirty bomb".

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He said he had not previously discussed the cyber attack in public.

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In April, German utility RWE increased its security after its Gundremmingen nuclear power plant was found to be infected with computer viruses.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-cyber-idUSKCN12A1OC

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bananas

(27,509 posts)
2. Really? What did he say?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:21 PM
Oct 2016

I haven't bothered to watch the debates.
We had a free preview of HBO and Cinemax this weekend.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
4. The Russia part he gave away the us part is just his usual saying the US is a shithole
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:27 PM
Oct 2016

So, it is his editorialiding

apnu

(8,755 posts)
5. He did say that and it was a real head scratcher
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:28 PM
Oct 2016

Nobody's said our military was outdated in any way. And even if Russia has some edge in nuclear warheads, I'm quite sure our nukes would fly and detonate when asked to, so its ludicrous to imagine some kind of military technological gap on with nukes.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
6. You need to catch up: Pres. Obama has called for a $1 TRILLION upgrade to our nuclear weapons . . .
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:50 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/science/atom-bomb-nuclear-weapons-hgv-arms-race-russia-china.html

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/04/18/Why-US-Spending-1-Trillion-Nuclear-Weapons

http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/Policy-Politics/Plans-to-upgrade-the-US-nuclear-arsenal-are-fueling-a-new-arms-race

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/us/us-ramping-up-major-renewal-in-nuclear-arms.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renovation_of_the_nuclear_weapon_arsenal_of_the_United_States

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/USNuclearModernization


This is fundamentally the most important issue the world faces today and no one running for President this cycle has addressed it. Trump's comments are as puerile as we've come to expect from him. But what keeps others from addressing this? Why didn't Clinton address this last night?

In January 2015, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists set their Doomsday Clock at three minutes to midnight. Their executive director, Kennette Benedict, announced that the world was closer to catastrophe as "unchecked climate change and a nuclear arms race resulting from modernization of huge arsenals pose extraordinary and undeniable threats to the continued existence of humanity."

http://thebulletin.org/press-release/press-release-it-now-3-minutes-midnight7950


apnu

(8,755 posts)
12. Thanks for the info. So Trump is full of crap as usual.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:45 AM
Oct 2016

And yes, proliferation of nuclear weapons is a scourge.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
7. In the last 3 years, 21 million people died from air pollution. This figure is clearly...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:50 PM
Oct 2016

...available in the scientific literature, a literature with which the deplorables in the anti-nuke industry avoid familiarity, since it's pretty clear that they only not only fail to know any science whatsoever, but actually despise science in general, and math in particular.

A comparative risk assessment of burden of disease and injury attributable to 67 risk factors and risk factor clusters in 21 regions, 1990–2010: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010 (Lancet 2012, 380, 2224–60: For air pollution mortality figures see Table 3, page 2238 and the text on page 2240.)

The air pollution death rate is roughly 800 deaths per hour, every hour, 8766 hours per year, every year, ten years per decade.

And the response from the deplorables in the anti-nuke industry. Innuendo, and more innuendo.

There's something Trumpian about this. Last night the orange asshole carried on about emails, with Ms. Clinton pointing out firmly - and completely honestly - that no secure information was ever breached, and that there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone was harmed by this faux Trumpian defined "disaster."

How is the innuendo here different? Well, for one thing, the deplorable carrying on by anti-nukes, stretching over decades of fear and ignorance resulted in far fewer lives having been saved from death by air pollution than the 1.8 million lives that were saved because of the use of nuclear energy, as noted again, in a highly cited and widely read publication in one of the world's premier scientific journals written by one of the world's most respected climate scientists:

Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power

(Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University Earth Institute, 2880 Broadway, New York, New York 10025, United States Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

(Trump, by contrast, hasn't killed anyone yet, not at least to our knowledge, and it seems that the American people will prevent him from doing so by kicking his useless ass in the coming election.)

But the real tragedy associated with the deplorable anti-nuke selective attention - by which they couldn't give a fuck about tens of millions of air pollution deaths even as they carry on about software that has harmed no one - is that they helped promote an approach to the environment that failed and failed miserably.

2016 is now being recorded as a year of unprecedented new accumulations of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere. The deplorables in the anti-nuke industry convinced the world to invest quantities measuring in the trillions of dollars on so called "renewable energy," chiefly the solar and wind industry. Combined these two industries, despite this huge expenditure - which might have been more wisely spent on thousands of more useful things - don't produce 5 of the 570 exajoules of primary energy that humanity generates and consumes each year.

As a result, the fastest growing source of energy on this planet is a dangerous fossil fuel, natural gas, without which, by the way, the so called "renewable energy" scam would be even more useless.

In the last ten years while two trillion dollars was being squandered on this unsustainable garbage - which is not actually "renewable" since it relies on the mining of vast quantities of toxic and increasingly rare elements - the rate of increase of the increase in dangerous fossil fuels - the second derivative for those who, unlike anti-nukes, know math - has reached new levels never seen before. 2016 is likely to be the second year in a row that the increase is more than 3.00 ppm, despite never having reached such a rate in recorded history.



So called "renewable energy" didn't work; it isn't working; and it won't work.

Heckuva job deplorables. Heckuva job.

Have a nice week.





MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
10. Some anti-nukers don't want...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:24 PM
Oct 2016

Nuclear power used in space for any reason. They only want solar power used. The fact that the sun is a giant fusion reactor escapes them.

Then there are the renewable power advocates who get upset when wind turbines kill birds.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
11. I know what they want. I've been hearing them offer their idiot nonsense for...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:07 PM
Oct 2016

...decades, beginning with that stupid senile old bastard Harvey Wasserman, to that scientifically illiterate paranoid harpy Helen Caldicott, for years.

While these shit for brains carried on endlessly with crap that amounts to conspiracy theories, over the last thirty years, without ever checking out the contents of a science book, three times more people died from air pollution than were killed in World War II.

This is not amusing. It's a crime against humanity; past, present, and most disturbingly, future.

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