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CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:17 PM Oct 2016

Social Security Announces 0.3 Percent Benefit Increase for 2017

Source: ssa.gov

Press Release
Tuesday, October 18, 2016
For Immediate Release
Mark Hinkle, Acting Press Officer
press.office@ssa.gov
Social Security Announces 0.3 Percent Benefit Increase for 2017

Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for more than 65 million Americans will increase 0.3 percent in 2017, the Social Security Administration announced today.

The 0.3 percent cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) will begin with benefits payable to more than 60 million Social Security beneficiaries in January 2017. Increased payments to more than 8 million SSI beneficiaries will begin on December 30, 2016. The Social Security Act ties the annual COLA to the increase in the Consumer Price Index as determined by the Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Some other adjustments that take effect in January of each year are based on the increase in average wages. Based on that increase, the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security tax (taxable maximum) will increase to $127,200 from $118,500. Of the estimated 173 million workers who will pay Social Security taxes in 2017, about 12 million will pay more because of the increase in the taxable maximum.

Information about Medicare changes for 2017, when announced, will be available at www.Medicare.gov. For some beneficiaries, their Social Security increase may be partially or completely offset by increases in Medicare premiums.

Read more: https://www.ssa.gov/news/#/post/10-2016-1



Don't spend that ~$3.00/month in one place!

These people have no shame, NONE!!



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Dang! What am I gonna do with all that money? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #1
Buy a yacht? rickford66 Oct 2016 #7
how in the world will I be able to spend that $7. olddad56 Oct 2016 #2
Those damned entitled people wanting more government handouts. Yes, that is sarcasm. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #3
LOL! We're all RICH! HAB911 Oct 2016 #4
Who is on the Social Security Board ? Republicans ???? katmondoo Oct 2016 #5
That is so damn offensive! Stonepounder Oct 2016 #6
It is offensive! CountAllVotes Oct 2016 #9
It's a godsend! procon Oct 2016 #8
Can save more if you get the generic. closeupready Oct 2016 #12
Yep I was waiting on abated breath for the raise in living turbinetree Oct 2016 #10
Have you noted the change in other little *perks* so to speak? CountAllVotes Oct 2016 #11
Yepper......................... turbinetree Oct 2016 #31
Its a formula based on 1972 legislation progree Oct 2016 #13
There have been times in the past ... CountAllVotes Oct 2016 #16
When was that? progree Oct 2016 #17
Read all about it here: CountAllVotes Oct 2016 #18
Anything after the 1970's in that notchfile3.html file? progree Oct 2016 #19
I remember the $200 checks from Bush CountAllVotes Oct 2016 #20
Interesting. Thanks for the info. n/t progree Oct 2016 #21
.003 % are you kidding me ! That's $6 a month on the max payout. 4 more years Oct 2016 #15
CPI for all items rises 0.3% in September as gasoline and shelter indexes rise mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2016 #22
whee irisblue Oct 2016 #23
That Just Sucks Ccarmona Oct 2016 #24
I refuse to give money to a for profit insurance company! turbinetree Oct 2016 #32
Inflation - List of things that went up for me by $3 a month or more this year. Yo_Mama Oct 2016 #25
My rent went up 5% this year dflprincess Oct 2016 #30
add.. olddad56 Oct 2016 #33
0.003 apcalc Oct 2016 #26
THIS is why we need a democratic house & senate! PunksMom Oct 2016 #27
Exactly! +1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #29
Woo hoo!!!! llmart Oct 2016 #28
This is a spit in the eye of SS recipients Number9Dream Oct 2016 #34

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
2. how in the world will I be able to spend that $7.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:20 PM
Oct 2016

maybe I will donate it back to SS, they must need it more than I do.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
3. Those damned entitled people wanting more government handouts. Yes, that is sarcasm.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:21 PM
Oct 2016

SS should be talked about every day so the GOP candidates have to squirm.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
5. Who is on the Social Security Board ? Republicans ????
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
Oct 2016

Have any of these people been to a grocery store lately?

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
6. That is so damn offensive!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016

It is not even worth the bookkeeping.

Lets see. 2015 - 1.7%
2016 - 0.0%
2017 - 0.3%

That's 2.0% over 3 years. Based on an $800.00/mo Social Security benefit, that's $16.00/mo raise over 3 years. If you were working a 40 hour week, That's a $0.40/hr raise. Hmmm...

Not a good boss.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
9. It is offensive!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:14 PM
Oct 2016

I guess "they" don't take into account how much it is costing some SSA recipients for medications these days!

One of mine has gone from $200 a month to $500 a month!

I guess the part D carrier wasn't happy with the co-payment amount and they reduced the quantity I am to receive by 50% and lied about it! Damn them!

The part D carrier (CVS/Caremark) got their asses fired effective Jan. 1st, 2017 by my Union. If it weren't for the union, I'd be totally screwed!

Greedy bastards they are -- all of them!!!!!!



procon

(15,805 posts)
8. It's a godsend!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:13 PM
Oct 2016

I'm so excited that decide on which dinner I like best. Shall I buy 3 cans of Salmon & Brown Rice Pate or the Chicken & Sweet Potato Medley?

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
10. Yep I was waiting on abated breath for the raise in living
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:18 PM
Oct 2016

I can't buy a gallon of milk for three dollars.

But we got a Congress being led by a AYN RAND Acolyte from Wisconsin, that thinks I have to much and that it should go to the banks, hedge fund and walls street, because he and the other right wingers say that its failure and he wants his lobbyist friends to manage the funds-------------no thank you, (when he gets his retirement from the taxpayers, he's laughing all the way to the bank) he (Ryan) wants to strip our money from us, when he could pass legislation to make everyone that pays into the system pay, nope, he wants it to fail, and have the media run around and say see, its underfunded, you have to raise the age requirement.

Instead of having a worthless means test, of $118,500.00 and now being raised to $127,200.00 to fund the system, while the dumpster and other millionaires and billionaires scam artists , and those making over the said amount don't have to pay anymore.

And whats really galling is that my generation, the baby boomer generation has had to pay for two possibly three generations,
(the one before me, mine, and the one ahead of me, just gotta thank the "guy" leading the country back in 1984) while the hedge fund people another's walk around not paying, but we have to pay for them and ourselves, and the Gen X and the millennials have no defined benefits, and they are being told that the SS is under funded, ---ya think------look at who isn't paying--------------this is not a trick question

And he (Ryan) came up with this idea since he got into office and now that he and his "gang" are in charge , they get to work 111 days this year and he alone is making $223,000 a year working three days a week, so that he can spend time with is family.

While I have to think about the gallon of milk I cannot afford and those three dollars, that is tied to the index of inflation.
While the greed in health costs is going up, food, water and such, yep those three dollars should cover the period on the end of this sentence

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
11. Have you noted the change in other little *perks* so to speak?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:29 PM
Oct 2016

Sheesh, I waited and waited to get to be 50 years old and then that bagel that was 10% off if you are over 50 changed -- you have to be 55 now they say.

So you get to 55 and that same stupid bagel is now not available for the old age discount until you are 60.

So you make it to 60 and figure you've got the discount nailed for that same stupid bagel that is now not yours to have with the 10% discount until you are 62.

Fast forward to age 62. That same bagel will not have that 10% discount as you now need to be 65 to get that same little tidbit.

On we go to age 65 (if you are still alive) and now you need to be 70 for that shitty bagel.

It it not obvious WHO these little *perks* (or lack thereof) are going to?

By the time the game is up there will be nothing left as they've worked this generation over good by stealing their retirement savings via the stock market and they now give this same group of people a whopping 1% for a savings account if lucky.

Sons a bitches! Every damn one of them is to blame for this farce and pack of lies!

Let a solitary one of them try living on >$1,000.00 a month!





turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
31. Yepper.........................
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:38 PM
Oct 2016

Looking at my medicare coverage coming up for 2017, they went up $6.00 per month on my prescription plan

Now if I look at it this way:

I get half a month at half price on the monthly fee, and then take the hits the following year, while Ryan and his cronies doing nothing again, but trying to figure out with there incompetence and logic, that all of the years that I paid there wages, that now I am a burden----------go figure

progree

(10,924 posts)
13. Its a formula based on 1972 legislation
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:35 PM
Oct 2016

Both houses of Congress was Democratic back then, BTW (and Nixon(R) was president)

https://www.ssa.gov/news/cola/

The COLA ... It is based on the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W) from the third quarter of the last year a COLA was determined to the third quarter of the current year.

Congress enacted the COLA provision as part of the 1972 Social Security Amendments, and automatic annual COLAs began in 1975.


The COLA increases of the last 11 years from the above link (which goes all the way back to 1975)
January 2006 -- 4.1%
January 2007 -- 3.3%
January 2008 -- 2.3%
January 2009 -- 5.8%
January 2010 -- 0.0%
January 2011 -- 0.0%
January 2012 -- 3.6%
January 2013 -- 1.7%
January 2014 -- 1.5%
January 2015 -- 1.7%
January 2016 -- 0.0%
January 2017 -- 0.3%


Consumer Price Index - Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W)
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CWUR0000SA0

Over the last 4 years, the COLA increases have added up to 1.5 + 1.7 + 0.0 + 0.3 = 3.5%

While the CPI-W using September figures has increased by 3.20%
(235.495/228.184 - 1)*100% = 3.20%

CPI-W numbers from the link above:

[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] 9/2012 9/2013 9/2014 9/2015 9/2016
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] 228.184 230.537 234.170 232.661 235.495

I just happened to choose 4 years ....

(9/2014 to 9/2015 screws things up because it was a negative CPI-W period).

This probably isn't exactly how they figure it

On Edit: Over the past 3 years the COLA increased by 2.00% while the CPI-W increased by 2.15%

Yes, it would be nice if they used a CPI index that gave the same weight to medical costs as seniors face.



CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
16. There have been times in the past ...
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:40 PM
Oct 2016

When faced with this same scenario they've kicked in a few extra bucks to help.

Can't have that now can we? Too busy funding wars without end that cost trillions of dollars a year!

FUCK THEM.



progree

(10,924 posts)
17. When was that?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:48 PM
Oct 2016
There have been times in the past ...
When faced with this same scenario they've kicked in a few extra bucks to help.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
18. Read all about it here:
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:04 PM
Oct 2016

Name of link says it all:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/notchfile3.html

And not to forget the work of G. W Bush, Jr. He sent out checks for $200.00 before he left office and the economy crashed as a last ditch effort to save an economy on its way to ruin.



progree

(10,924 posts)
19. Anything after the 1970's in that notchfile3.html file?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:11 PM
Oct 2016

Its a very long file and they are talking about a lot more then benefits increases...

And not to forget the work of G. W Bush, Jr. He sent out checks for $200.00 before he left office and the economy crashed as a last ditch effort to save an economy on its way to ruin.


And the $200 extra Social Security (?) checks by G.W. Bush, I can't find anything on that...

Good for him if he did.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
20. I remember the $200 checks from Bush
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:21 PM
Oct 2016

It was not a lot but a lot more that the crappy $3 I'll get!

>>The Bush stimulus gave 20 million retirees on Social Security and disabled veterans a check. They received $300 ($600 for couples) if they earned at least $3,000 in 2007 in benefits. However, those on SSI alone did not receive checks. (See SSI and the Tax Rebate Checks)

The Bush stimulus also raised loan limits for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration. Unfortunately, this allowed the government-sponsored agencies to take on more toxic debt. That led to Fannie and Freddie's bankruptcy later that year.

https://www.thebalance.com/bush-economic-stimulus-package-3305782

As for the offset that was given, I believe it was during the Carter years when they propped up SS recipients.





4 more years

(100 posts)
15. .003 % are you kidding me ! That's $6 a month on the max payout.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:38 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Interest rates have been so low the past 9 years it's killing us seniors. I bet a lot of seniors are way over their heads in the stock market. When the market has a large adjustment they will suffer a Hugh loss to their monthly income. But no help on the way .....like a moratorium on the 70.5 age rule on your IRA mandatory withdrawals. Just a kick in the ass .

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,664 posts)
22. CPI for all items rises 0.3% in September as gasoline and shelter indexes rise
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:01 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:57 PM - Edit history (1)

CPI for all items rises 0.3% in September as gasoline and shelter indexes rise

Economic News Release USDL-16-2023

Consumer Price Index Summary

Transmission of material in this release is embargoed until 8:30 a.m. (EDT) October 18, 2016

Technical information: (202) 691-7000 Reed.Steve@bls.gov www.bls.gov/cpi
Media Contact: (202) 691-5902 PressOffice@bls.gov

CONSUMER PRICE INDEX – SEPTEMBER 2016

The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increased 0.3 percent in September on a seasonally adjusted basis, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Over the last 12 months, the all items index rose 1.5 percent before seasonal adjustment.
....

Facilities for Sensory Impaired

Information from this release will be made available to sensory impaired individuals upon request. Voice phone: 202-691-5200, Federal Relay Services: 1-800-877-8339.

Brief Explanation of the CPI

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) is a measure of the average change in prices over time of goods and services purchased by households. The Bureau of Labor Statistics publishes CPIs for two population groups: (1) the CPI for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W), which covers households of wage earners and clerical workers that comprise approximately 28 percent of the total population and (2) the CPI for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) and the Chained CPI for All Urban Consumers (C-CPI-U), which covers approximately 89 percent of the total population and includes, in addition to wage earners and clerical worker households, groups such as professional, managerial, and technical workers, the self-employed, short-term workers, the unemployed, and retirees and others not in the labor force.

-- -- -- --

Previously at DU:

CPI for all items unchanged in July; gasoline index falls, shelter index rises again


[center]Facilities for Sensory Impaired[/center]

Information from this release will be made available to sensory impaired individuals upon request. Voice phone: 202-691-5200, Federal Relay Services: 1-800-877-8339.

Previously at DU:

CPI for May 2016: CPI for all items increases 0.2% in May as energy, shelter increases outweigh food decline

CPI for April 2016: CPI for all items increases 0.4% as gasoline, shelter, food indexes rise

Brief Explanation of the CPI

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) is a measure of the average change in prices over time of goods and services purchased by households. The Bureau of Labor Statistics publishes CPIs for two population groups: (1) the CPI for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W), which covers households of wage earners and clerical workers that comprise approximately 28 percent of the total population and (2) the CPI for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) and the Chained CPI for All Urban Consumers (C-CPI-U), which covers approximately 89 percent of the total population and includes, in addition to wage earners and clerical worker households, groups such as professional, managerial, and technical workers, the self-employed, short-term workers, the unemployed, and retirees and others not in the labor force.....

For further details visit the CPI home page on the Internet at www.bls.gov/cpi/ or contact our CPI Information and Analysis Section on (202) 691-7000.

Read more: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

Not all CPI's are alike. For an earlier discussion at DU about that, see:

CPI for all items falls 0.1% in December as energy and food indexes decline

and

CPI for all items rises 0.2% as gasoline and shelter prices rise; food prices decline

From the zeroeth post:

I added the bolding.

Cryptoad points out the significance of the CPI-W. It is used to calculate Social Security's Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA):

Based on the increase in the Consumer Price Index (CPI-W) from the third quarter of 2013 through the third quarter of 2014, Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) beneficiaries will receive a 1.7 percent COLA for 2015.

Consumer Price Index Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

What goods and services does the CPI cover?

The CPI represents all goods and services purchased for consumption by the reference population (U or W) BLS has classified all expenditure items into more than 200 categories, arranged into eight major groups. Major groups and examples of categories in each are as follows:
FOOD AND BEVERAGES (breakfast cereal, milk, coffee, chicken, wine, full service meals, snacks)
HOUSING (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)
APPAREL (men's shirts and sweaters, women's dresses, jewelry)
TRANSPORTATION (new vehicles, airline fares, gasoline, motor vehicle insurance)
MEDICAL CARE (prescription drugs and medical supplies, physicians' services, eyeglasses and eye care, hospital services)
RECREATION (televisions, toys, pets and pet products, sports equipment, admissions);
EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION (college tuition, postage, telephone services, computer software and accessories);
OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES (tobacco and smoking products, haircuts and other personal services, funeral expenses).

The CPI-U is used by the Treasury Department to set the interest rates on I Bonds.

I Savings Bonds

How do I Bonds earn interest?

Interest on an I Bond rates is a combination of two rates:
1.A fixed rate of return which remains the same throughout the life of the I Bond

and
2.A variable inflation rate which we calculate twice a year, based on changes in the nonseasonally adjusted Consumer Price Index for all Urban Consumers (CPI-U) for all items, including food and energy (CPI-U for March compared with the CPI-U for September of the same year, and then CPI-U for September compared with the CPI-U for March of the following year).

In specific, there is a discussion of the Cost of Living Index here:

Let's look at that.

The CPI-W is discussed here:

CPI-W methodology
 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
24. That Just Sucks
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:34 PM
Oct 2016

My Medicare supplemental insurance is going from $22 per month this year to $194 in 2017.

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
32. I refuse to give money to a for profit insurance company!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:51 PM
Oct 2016

SS and medicare were at one time 100% funded, by the wages of the employees and employer.

I paid $127.00 last year for Medicare (at the very beginning of the year which was a one time fee, and will again be a one time fee) and then paid $27.00 per month for my prescription, that is what people in this country do not understand. I do not pay $127.00 per month for Medicare it is now a 80/20 program, because of Ronnie ray gun in 1984.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
25. Inflation - List of things that went up for me by $3 a month or more this year.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:38 PM
Oct 2016

My phone bill (nothing to be done, fixed fees).

Electricity (increase in price per kwh plus fee for access)

Insurance

Prescriptions (I commonly take two, both increased over $10 this year).

Price of stuff like cheap shoes, most clothing, and many food items increased.

All the stuff that decreased were in stuff that people who live on little simply don't buy.

People who get a lot of their income from SS are being pushed to the wall, and over it.

dflprincess

(28,086 posts)
30. My rent went up 5% this year
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

not on Social Security, but my employer only gave 2.5% raises.

Bernie was right, the COLA for SS needs to be based on things Seniors buy - like prescription drugs.

PunksMom

(440 posts)
27. THIS is why we need a democratic house & senate!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:43 PM
Oct 2016

There is a surplus in SS, but the repubs won't sign off on much deserved cost of living raises. Just infuriating!

llmart

(15,557 posts)
28. Woo hoo!!!!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:36 PM
Oct 2016

Now I can get that gumball I've been coveting for quite some time!!!

What an absolute joke AND a big slap in the face to us retirees. However, I have to say that even if it turned out to be another $10 a month it wouldn't make any difference in my life, so why give out anything at all?

When they finally realized that us baby boomers would all be getting older at the same time, that's when they raised the full retirement ages. I believe that was when Reagan was in office.

Number9Dream

(1,564 posts)
34. This is a spit in the eye of SS recipients
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 08:47 AM
Oct 2016

The cost of living has gone up way more than this. Medications, food, etc. And nobody in the government does a thing about it.

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