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Retired George

(332 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 12:58 PM Oct 2016

Election Update: Trump May Depress Republican Turnout, Spelling Disaster For The GOP

Last edited Sun Oct 23, 2016, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: 538.com

By Nate Silver

Instead of a poll, let’s start today’s Election Update with some actual votes. According to the esteemable Nevada journalist Jon Ralston, Democrats have a 26-percentage-point turnout edge so far based on early and absentee voting in Clark County (home to Las Vegas), Nevada. And they have a 10-point edge in Washoe County (home to Reno).

Nevada is one of a number of states where Democrats usually do better in early voting than in the vote overall, so this shouldn’t be taken to mean that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic U.S. Senate candidate in Nevada, Catherine Cortez Masto, are going to win their races by double digits. But Nevada is an interesting state, insofar as both Clinton and Donald Trump can find things to like about its demographic makeup: In Clinton’s case, the growing number of Hispanic and Asian-American voters bodes well for her; in Trump’s case, there’s the fact that only about one-third of Nevada’s white voters have college degrees, according to FiveThirtyEight’s estimates. Furthermore, Nevada has shown tight polling all year, with Clinton having only pulled ahead since the debates — surprising given that President Obama won Nevada by 7 percentage points in 2012 and that Clinton is beating Obama’s numbers in other Western states.

Those early-voting numbers, though, don’t look good for Trump. Democrats are matching their 2012 pace in Clark County, according to Ralston. And they’re beating it in Washoe County, a place where the demographics ought to be relatively Trump-friendly. If Clinton’s pulling in her marginal voters and Trump isn’t getting his, that’s how things could go from bad to worse for the GOP.

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The problem for Trump is that taken as a whole, his polls aren’t very good — and, in fact, they may still be getting worse. An ABC News national poll released on Sunday morning — the first live-caller poll conducted fully after the final presidential debate — showed Clinton leading Trump 50 percent to 38 percent. Clinton’s 12-point lead in that poll is toward the high end of a broad range of results from recent national polls, with surveys showing everything from a 15-point Clinton lead to a 2-point Trump edge. But the ABC News poll is interesting given its recency and given why Clinton has pulled so far ahead in it — Republicans aren’t very happy with their candidate and may not turn out to vote:

Read more: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-trump-may-depress-republican-turnout-spelling-disaster-for-the-gop/



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Election Update: Trump May Depress Republican Turnout, Spelling Disaster For The GOP (Original Post) Retired George Oct 2016 OP
that's what I'm hoping for NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #1
TRUMP ALONE CAN FIX IT bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #2
Republicans have seen the light. 4 more years Oct 2016 #3
Demoralized and embarrassed....I like it! johnnyrocket Oct 2016 #13
I worked in a NM election voting site yesterday.... chillfactor Oct 2016 #4
Democrats voting 10 to 1 over Repubs? Holy shit Sherlock! PearliePoo2 Oct 2016 #9
That is right. In NM you declare a party. We lived there 10 years. nm AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #20
Don't remember who it was remarking on this, but moonscape Oct 2016 #5
Add in the weather on election day DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #6
They've got time. They dont vote until the 28th... nt Earth_First Oct 2016 #7
Election Update: Trump May Depress Republican Turnout, Spelling Disaster For The GOP Botany Oct 2016 #8
The BIGLYEST THANK YOU Democrats could give President Obama is.... cynzke Oct 2016 #10
... Skittles Oct 2016 #11
WHY DOES "READ MORE" LINK OPEN TO MY PERSONAL EMAIL ACCOUNT? cynzke Oct 2016 #12
The OP accidentally put the link to their Google Mail as the 538 link. herding cats Oct 2016 #14
Thank you for Pointing that Out Retired George Oct 2016 #21
Lol! herding cats Oct 2016 #22
LCS would have been less shocking... cynzke Oct 2016 #23
Thanks! cynzke Oct 2016 #24
Here's the correct link. herding cats Oct 2016 #15
Just saw someone on FB saying Hillary's election will split the nation for years to come. C Moon Oct 2016 #16
My own study... Canoe52 Oct 2016 #17
Who in the world has Trump leading by 2 points? His internal family poll? bulloney Oct 2016 #18
Even so, the propaganda is out there. louis-t Oct 2016 #19

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
1. that's what I'm hoping for
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:07 PM
Oct 2016

he'll not only be a loser at the top of the ticket, but he'll spread the losing bigly to the rest of the GOP.

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
4. I worked in a NM election voting site yesterday....
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:27 PM
Oct 2016

I checked in voters....10 Democrats to 1 rethug came in to vote. We had more voters in the first day of early voting then we normally have in the whole two weeks of early voting....enthusiasm was very apparent. Democrats came in with smiles....rethugs very subdued and with sullen faces.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
9. Democrats voting 10 to 1 over Repubs? Holy shit Sherlock!
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:43 PM
Oct 2016

I love hearing first person stories like this! The turnout and enthusiasm..wow!

But I do have a question please: So in NM, you have to register with a party affiliation? I'm unfamiliar with this because I live in Washington State and I'm not required to tell anyone if I'm a Democrat or Rethug.



moonscape

(5,653 posts)
5. Don't remember who it was remarking on this, but
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:33 PM
Oct 2016

they made the excellent point that all this 'rigged' talk is crazy strategy because it serves to depress the Republican vote. If it's all rigged, why bother?

But then, that assumes Trump has any interest in actually turning out the vote vs attending to his own ego.

DeminPennswoods

(17,335 posts)
6. Add in the weather on election day
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:34 PM
Oct 2016

In my part of western Pennsylvania, Accuweather's long range forecast for election day is for rain/snow showers. I'll definitely be there when the poll opens, but some of my Republican neighbors might not bother showing up if it's cold/rainy/snowy outside.

Botany

(76,686 posts)
8. Election Update: Trump May Depress Republican Turnout, Spelling Disaster For The GOP
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016

And then with democratic leadership stuff will get done, people will be happy,
and then we will have the "California model" and republicans will be out of
power for a long long time. Oklahoma, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming will be their
own little nations.


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Election Update: Trump May Depress Republican Turnout, Spelling Disaster For The GOP

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
10. The BIGLYEST THANK YOU Democrats could give President Obama is....
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 02:12 PM
Oct 2016

To turn out....make this the biggest Democratic turn out since Obama was elected. Go out and say THANK YOU with your vote for Hillary.

 

Retired George

(332 posts)
21. Thank you for Pointing that Out
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 04:31 PM
Oct 2016

And if anybody got my inbox after clicking the link, I just want to assure you that LesbianCatholicSchoolgirls is just a website I accidentally landed on. 379 times.

herding cats

(19,994 posts)
22. Lol!
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 04:35 PM
Oct 2016

That one made me laugh!

It's all good, Google won't let us in to poke through your life without a user and a password. It defaults to our own if we're logged in, or the login screen if we're not.

C Moon

(13,540 posts)
16. Just saw someone on FB saying Hillary's election will split the nation for years to come.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 02:46 PM
Oct 2016

These Trump supporters need to look outside of the bubble they built around themselves.

Canoe52

(2,963 posts)
17. My own study...
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 03:23 PM
Oct 2016

Which is only worth 2 cents

But I just heard that my daughter in law, a hard core repub, has reexamined how her values don't match up to her party and has switched to the Democratic Party.

My mother ( who thinks Obama is a secret Mooslum) can't stand tRump and is not voting at all.

AND best of all... my cell phone in the sentence above JUST AUTOCORRECTED "trump" to "tRump" !!!

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
18. Who in the world has Trump leading by 2 points? His internal family poll?
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 03:31 PM
Oct 2016

I would love to see a comparison of the questions, survey participants and methodology to see how you can have a 17-point difference among polls, from a Clinton landslide to a slight lead for Trump.

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