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uawchild

(2,208 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:12 AM Nov 2016

Poll: Trump catches Clinton in New Hampshire

Source: Politico

Donald Trump has pulled even with Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, according to a new poll released Thursday — the latest public survey to show cracks in Clinton’s once-safe firewall.

The WBUR-FM poll, conducted by MassINC Polling Group, shows Trump leading by a single point, 40 percent to 39 percent. Libertarian Gary Johnson is at 10 percent, Green Party nominee Jill Stein is at 3 percent and a combined 7 percent of likely voters are undecided or prefer another candidate.

In fact, the WBUR poll points to a GOP sweep of statewide races. In the state’s high-stakes Senate race, incumbent GOP Sen. Kelly Ayotte has a 6-point lead over Democratic Gov. Maggie Hassan, 51 percent to 45 percent. And Republican Chris Sununu is 5 points ahead of Democrat Colin Van Ostern in the race to replace Hassan as governor, 49 percent to 44 percent.

The WBUR poll is an outlier.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/11/poll-trump-catches-clinton-in-new-hampshire-230670



Note: I am typing the word "poll" into google (set on the NEWS category) and posting new polls that have not yet been posted to Late Breaking News.

Nothing is being "cherry picked", so if any poll results are unsettling please don't shoot the messenger. Yesterday I was the victim of a semi-witchhunt for doing this.

Why do this? First, because it IS late breaking news. Second, to fight any complacency if polls actually ARE tightening. Third, as a protest against those that would try to censor or intimidate people into not posting topics that they just don't like. This IS Democratic Underground, posting from reputable sources should not be censored. Thank you.

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Poll: Trump catches Clinton in New Hampshire (Original Post) uawchild Nov 2016 OP
All the good polls that come out and u pick this one. vdogg Nov 2016 #1
I have no problem with this poll being posted. Agschmid Nov 2016 #2
Exactly. Shemp Howard Nov 2016 #38
This is a good pollster - The pollster has an A- rating factfinder_77 Nov 2016 #3
Read wrote I wrote in the comment section, nothing is cherry picked. uawchild Nov 2016 #5
lulz obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #7
I love that story! Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #15
Run out of substantiative responses? lol uawchild Nov 2016 #18
Well I won't pull out the old victim card like I have Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #19
Self-evident Victim Card, lol uawchild Nov 2016 #20
Not backing off one bit. Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #21
How intellectually honest is that? uawchild Nov 2016 #23
If Putin and Maduro had a fist fight who would win? snooper2 Nov 2016 #24
All real fist fights always go to the ground... uawchild Nov 2016 #30
You can be honest and admit you only post generally negative polls for Clinton. Drunken Irishman Nov 2016 #34
Why did you leave out important polls I also posted? uawchild Nov 2016 #35
My accusations are clear - you post way more negative polls than positive ones. Drunken Irishman Nov 2016 #36
"You can say you just type in "poll" but you and I know that's not true." uawchild Nov 2016 #37
They're not false. In a 24 hour span you've posted six negative polls. Drunken Irishman Nov 2016 #39
The consistency of your posting habits tends to belie your allegations of sincerity. LanternWaste Nov 2016 #40
All Other Polls videohead5 Nov 2016 #4
JFC just stop obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #6
Sketchy poll? This pollster, MassINC Polling Group, has an A- rating on 538's poll rating page. uawchild Nov 2016 #9
I don't make false accusations -- and, you've c/p that wall o' text a brazillion times obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #11
So WHAT is "Sketchy" about THIS poll uawchild Nov 2016 #12
lulz -- not upset at all obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #13
Excellent then uawchild Nov 2016 #16
Copy and past from your same reply isn't doing us justice, you can do better snooper2 Nov 2016 #27
Nate Silver also shows they have a slight Republican bias. n/t Tempest Nov 2016 #29
Strange ham_actor Nov 2016 #8
You should read all the posts before jumping to unfounded conclusions, you missed this one... uawchild Nov 2016 #10
Odd, typing in "poll" in Google and the third result shows Nate Silver's projection of a Clinton win Tempest Nov 2016 #28
Odd? Lets look into this... uawchild Nov 2016 #33
I wasn't responding to you Tempest Nov 2016 #41
Where's the vadermike Nov 2016 #14
I dunno uawchild Nov 2016 #17
According to Nate Silver, MassINC Polling Group has a slight Republican bias. n/t Tempest Nov 2016 #25
Believe this poll if you want, I don't. wisteria Nov 2016 #31
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vdogg

(1,384 posts)
1. All the good polls that come out and u pick this one.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:18 AM
Nov 2016

I knew it would be one of the 3 of you posting this before I clicked on this thread. This stuff is getting painfully obvious now.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. I have no problem with this poll being posted.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:21 AM
Nov 2016

It just means people need to volunteer there is still time to change the outcome.

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
3. This is a good pollster - The pollster has an A- rating
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:22 AM
Nov 2016

This is a good pollster, not a tracking poll, 4 days long, in a firewall state, showing Trump ahead. No matter how anyone tries to spin this, this is bad.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
5. Read wrote I wrote in the comment section, nothing is cherry picked.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:32 AM
Nov 2016

AGAIN, because you seemed to have missed it:

Note: I am typing the word "poll" into google (set on the NEWS category) and posting new polls that have not yet been posted to Late Breaking News.

Nothing is being "cherry picked", so if any poll results are unsettling please don't shoot the messenger. Yesterday I was the victim of a semi-witchhunt for doing this.

Why do this? First, because it IS late breaking news. Second, to fight any complacency if polls actually ARE tightening. Third, as a protest against those that would try to censor or intimidate people into not posting topics that they just don't like. This IS Democratic Underground, posting from reputable sources should not be censored. Thank you.


Seriously, the only thing that is becoming obvious is that YOU just jumped to conclusions and made a false accusation. Go ahead, type "poll into google NOW at 7:31 AM in the NEWS category and see the results for yourself. Good Grief.

If you feel any particular poll is "sketchy", by all means expose it. What problem to you have with this particular poll?

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
20. Self-evident Victim Card, lol
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:22 AM
Nov 2016

Sorry, is the witch hunt not going well? lol

Just joking, mostly. But your lack of a substantiative reply is noted, again.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
23. How intellectually honest is that?
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:32 AM
Nov 2016

but I AM a victim. That IS self evident. sniffle. lol

Seriously, as my main detractor, I was expecting more substance from you this morning. What, 5 or so poll results posted already today and you haven't said anything substantiative about any of them. Nor did you note that the results were mixed for both candidates.

How intellectually honest is that? Not very?

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
30. All real fist fights always go to the ground...
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:40 AM
Nov 2016

So I would bet on Putin, he has a black belt in judo.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
34. You can be honest and admit you only post generally negative polls for Clinton.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:57 AM
Nov 2016

Here's a list of polls you've posted in the last couple days:

Poll: Trump leads Clinton by 3 points in Virginia post email investigation

FOX 2 MItchell Poll: Clinton's lead cut to 3 percent over Trump in Michigan

Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump tied in Colorado, new poll shows

Trump Rated More Honest; Contest Stays a Dead Heat

New CNN / ORC polls suggest new strength for Trump in Nevada

Clinton slips below Trump in enthusiasm

That's six posts in the last 24 or so hours that have showcased heavily negative Clinton polling.

It's a pretty remarkable pattern for such a short period of time, especially when there are positive polls out there that you've barely mentioned or ignore entirely - and no, just posting a couple 'good' polls doesn't make up for the obvious trend of you pushing negative polls.

It's okay to admit you're focusing on negative posts. But don't lie about it.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
35. Why did you leave out important polls I also posted?
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:11 AM
Nov 2016

I told people exactly what I was doing and how to check it for themselves.

I chose to search on the word "poll" and report what the google NEWS results were just so people like you could not assign some sinister motive to my actions.

I even cut and pasted that in for people yesterday to prove that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1614546


Its not my fault that these results are trending a little the wrong way, don't shoot the messenger.

I do notice that your list left out the positive polls for Hillary and the damning one for tRump that I posted today. Was that an over sight?

So here are the ones you left out:

Hillary Clinton Still Leads a Tighter Race, Times/CBS News Poll Shows

Beneath a Close Election Contest Lie Deep Rifts Among Groups (POLL)

Poll: 'Shy Trump' voters are a mirage

In any case posting these would detracts from your accusation that I am cheery picking polls eh? Hey, you aren't cherry picking my posts now, are you? I hope not.

In any case anyone can google on the word "poll" and see the NEWS results for themselves, disproving your contention for themselves.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
36. My accusations are clear - you post way more negative polls than positive ones.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:17 AM
Nov 2016

You can blame Google. You can say you just type in "poll" but you and I know that's not true. You clearly are hunting for negative polls or you'd post a helluva lot more positive polls than you are because, guess what? There are just as many - if not more - out there. But alas, the only polls you've posted that are positive are about how Clinton leads a race that is tightening and a poll about there not being a silent majority of Trump voters who could win him the election (the other poll you mentioned is neutral, at best).

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
37. "You can say you just type in "poll" but you and I know that's not true."
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:26 AM
Nov 2016

What I know is that YOUR bias against me is showing.

People can type "poll" into google and see the NEWS results for themselves. I post any and ALL polls that HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN POSTED.

What you are upset about is the content of the polls, I am just posting them as they come in.

Sorry, but your rudeness in saying "You clearly are hunting for negative polls" is pretty bad, even for this current witch hunt.

I told you my methodology and that I chose it to AVOID BASELESS ACCUSATIONS like you are making now.

Anyone can type "poll" into google and see the NEWS results returned this morning THEMSELVES. That simple blows your accusations out of the water. Go ahead, do it your self.... better yet let me do it FOR you.

Here:

Search Results
Story image for poll from ABC News
Beneath a Close Election Contest Lie Deep Rifts Among Groups ...
ABC News-3 hours ago
Overall, likely voters divide 47-45 percent between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll.
Story image for poll from CNN
Trump vs. Clinton: Could the polls be wrong?
CNN-9 hours ago
London (CNN) Just when it looked like Hillary Clinton was going to make it through October without a nasty surprise, the FBI revealed it was ...
Why the polls may be wrong about Trump: Hepburn
Opinion-Toronto Star-4 hours ago
View all
Story image for poll from Politico
Poll: 'Shy Trump' voters are a mirage
Politico-5 hours ago
Donald Trump has insisted for months that polls are failing to capture the breadth of his support because some of his backers won't admit it to a ...
Story image for poll from Los Angeles Times
The polls might seem wild right now, but this election is closing a lot ...
Los Angeles Times-14 hours ago
Charles Franklin is hardly a household name, but for a few minutes Wednesday, the full spotlight of the 2016 presidential campaign focused on ...
Story image for poll from CNBC
Poll aggregators seem to be killing off actual polling
CNBC-18 hours ago
It feels at times like we're bombarded with poll coverage, but a little-noticed reality of the 2016 campaign is that we actually have many fewer ...
Story image for poll from Politico (blog)
Poll: Trump catches Clinton in New Hampshire
Politico (blog)-5 hours ago
Donald Trump has pulled even with Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, according to a new poll released Thursday — the latest public survey to ...
Clinton Narrowly Beats Trump With Independents in Bloomberg Poll
In-Depth-Bloomberg-Nov 2, 2016
View all

The polls I posted this morning were what GOOGLE returned as NEWS results.

Honestly, anyone can see this for themselves. Why you insist on impugning my motives is beyond me. I have debunked your contention with all the fact that ANYONE can check themselves. I think I did a good job of that too. lol

Continue making false accusations if you choose, I think I have made my counter case very clearly.

Enjoy the rest of your morning.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. The consistency of your posting habits tends to belie your allegations of sincerity.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

The consistency of your posting habits tends to belie your allegations of sincerity, and supports the observations others have made.

videohead5

(2,172 posts)
4. All Other Polls
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:28 AM
Nov 2016

Taken within this same time period has Hillary up by at least 4 points.this poll has a plus or minus of 4.4.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
6. JFC just stop
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:37 AM
Nov 2016

You do nothing but continuously post outlier/sketchy polls, and then declare, well no one else has posted this outlier/sketchy poll that says HRC is losing, so derp I will. See what a good scout I am? Stop witchhunting me!!((JH667

Seriously, just stop.



uawchild

(2,208 posts)
9. Sketchy poll? This pollster, MassINC Polling Group, has an A- rating on 538's poll rating page.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:42 AM
Nov 2016

This pollster, MassINC Polling Group, has an A- rating on 538's poll rating page. So tell us exactly what you feel is sketchy about it.


AGAIN, because you seemed to have missed it:

Note: I am typing the word "poll" into google (set on the NEWS category) and posting new polls that have not yet been posted to Late Breaking News.

Nothing is being "cherry picked", so if any poll results are unsettling please don't shoot the messenger. Yesterday I was the victim of a semi-witchhunt for doing this.

Why do this? First, because it IS late breaking news. Second, to fight any complacency if polls actually ARE tightening. Third, as a protest against those that would try to censor or intimidate people into not posting topics that they just don't like. This IS Democratic Underground, posting from reputable sources should not be censored. Thank you.


Seriously, the only thing that is becoming obvious is that YOU just jumped to conclusions and made a false accusation. Go ahead, type "poll into google NOW at 7:31 AM in the NEWS category and see the results for yourself. Good Grief.

Thank you in advance for your apology.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
11. I don't make false accusations -- and, you've c/p that wall o' text a brazillion times
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:48 AM
Nov 2016

How the hell can anyone have missed it?!

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
12. So WHAT is "Sketchy" about THIS poll
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:58 AM
Nov 2016

The pollster has an A- rating from 538. Good Grief.

4 posts today, 2 polls better for trump, 1 really bad for trump, 1 semi-good for Hillary.

I explained what I am doing, WHY are you so upset about it. If you don't like the results, debunk the poll if you can, but please don't shoot the messenger.

Thank you in advance for your apology.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
16. Excellent then
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:11 AM
Nov 2016

I am glad that my point that I am doing this to fight complacency is working.
Remember this? "Second, to fight any complacency if polls actually ARE tightening."

Why impugn my motives then? I understand if people over react to bad news sometimes, but please don't continue to blame the messenger. I am posting ALL poll results that have not yet been posted when I am doing this. Again, nothing is cherry picked.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
10. You should read all the posts before jumping to unfounded conclusions, you missed this one...
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:44 AM
Nov 2016

"Poll: 'Shy Trump' voters are a mirage

Source: Politico

Donald Trump has insisted for months that polls are failing to capture the breadth of his support because some of his backers won’t admit it to a pollster over the telephone.
He’s wrong. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141614816


Thank you in advance for your apology.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
33. Odd? Lets look into this...
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:52 AM
Nov 2016

Not sure if Nate Silver's predictions are Late Breaking News, wouldn't that be "analysis"? Analysis is not allowed in Late Breaking News. Since his analysis uses some older polls that would not qualify as Late Breaking News, would it? Besides its analysis in any case.

But lets see if that shows up in google.

Goggle results get updated over time. I posted between 7:00 and 9:00 and am checking in from work now at 9:38... lets see if I can find that article now.

Oh, I see, you didn't look at the results from NEWS, you looked at the ALL results. I am using the results from NEWS since that seemed appropriate fro Late Breaking News.

Check the NEWS results yourself. Hmm, I think I did see that and thought it was analysis. I DID post the NY Times poll results that shows Hillary in the lead and the poll that disparaged the myth of "shy" (i.e. unpolled or mispolled) tRump voters, so please don't think I left out a positive analysis of current but not late breaking news polls for any nefarious reason

Thanks for bringing this point up.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
17. I dunno
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:14 AM
Nov 2016

Note: I am typing the word "poll" into google (set on the NEWS category) and posting new polls that have not yet been posted to Late Breaking News.

Do you see it when you type "poll" into google? Has more than one shown up there this morning? Let me check for you...

Nope no new NH poll there, just a new article about the same poll WBUR conducted.

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