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greyl

(22,990 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:07 PM Nov 2016

Clinton campaign sends legal warning on ads claiming she's 'under investigation'

Source: CNN

(CNN)Hillary Clinton's campaign sent cease-and-desist letters to broadcasters advising that they shouldn't air ads from pro-Donald Trump PACs that include the claim that Clinton is "under investigation by the FBI."
The letters were dated Sunday, the same day the FBI announced that it was sticking by its conclusion that no charges were recommended against Clinton following completion of a review of recently discovered emails belonging to Clinton aide Huma Abedin.

"These ads falsely claim Secretary Clinton is under investigation by the FBI," said the letter from Marc Elias, general counsel for the Clinton campaign. A copy of the letter was read to CNN by a recipient.
The letter lists some pro-Trump PACs, including Rebuilding America Now and Future 45, and the titles of ads they are funding.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-ads-legal-warning-election-2016/

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Clinton campaign sends legal warning on ads claiming she's 'under investigation' (Original Post) greyl Nov 2016 OP
Good! tonyt53 Nov 2016 #1
Good! yuiyoshida Nov 2016 #22
This kind of claim can be litigated unlike the Foggyhill Nov 2016 #2
I'm glad they did this. displacedtexan Nov 2016 #3
Good. I think they'd have little trouble proving actual malice here. nt Maven Nov 2016 #4
I saw my first "Future 45"-funded as last week, those people are horrid Tarc Nov 2016 #7
That is what I am talking about above ^^^ IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2016 #31
Future 45 is funded by Tom Ricketts the Cubs owner MattP Nov 2016 #8
As a life long Cubs fan MontanaMama Nov 2016 #10
Well, the Red Sox had Curt Schilling as their turd n/t VWolf Nov 2016 #45
Great, but really, 3,500 lawsuits and counting, do you think this will stop anything? Amimnoch Nov 2016 #9
Right, but the letter seems to be going to the actual stations LisaM Nov 2016 #11
ahh, I'd missed that. good point. Amimnoch Nov 2016 #14
It's not Trump that's being told to stop, it's the stations running the ads... Moonwalk Nov 2016 #18
this is good, but it only applies to non-candidate funded ads onenote Nov 2016 #12
False Ads: There Oughta Be A Law! – Or Maybe Not Coyotl Nov 2016 #13
Actually, commercial tv stations may not reject all federal candidate ad buys onenote Nov 2016 #25
Does that law requiring marybourg Nov 2016 #32
Yes. A station can't be sued for libel for running an ad it is required to run onenote Nov 2016 #37
Thanx. Required ad law marybourg Nov 2016 #39
Good Hekate Nov 2016 #15
She could counteract with falsities of her own like retrowire Nov 2016 #16
This is just like swift boat remember? classykaren Nov 2016 #20
Wow. I really misread your subject line. Orrex Nov 2016 #21
Democrats are often far too nice. They need to take the gloves off and knock these asses RKP5637 Nov 2016 #26
Well Bloomberg sure did not get the memo. Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #27
Effing About Time! Yeah! stubtoe Nov 2016 #29
I've been wondering if she might not have a legal case against Trump BainsBane Nov 2016 #38
Probably not. onenote Nov 2016 #42
Here we are SteelSmasher Nov 2016 #41
Excellent! TY greyl Cha Nov 2016 #43
Saw one of these ads last night while watching The Voice here in NC. mnhtnbb Nov 2016 #44
Didn't do an6 /ood DallasNE Nov 2016 #47
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Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
2. This kind of claim can be litigated unlike the
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:12 PM
Nov 2016

Some people ple say kind of mud slinging


Also, the lawsuit and message invalidating those ads will make the rounds

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
3. I'm glad they did this.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:18 PM
Nov 2016

The only thing these deplorables understand is legal action and the fear of their own liability in such situations. Calling Sec. Clinton "corrupt" is an opinion. Claiming she's under investigation by the FBI is a lie. There's a legal difference.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
7. I saw my first "Future 45"-funded as last week, those people are horrid
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:42 PM
Nov 2016

One has a woman in pantsuit and shades playing Hillary, smashing laptops and laughing/smirking. The other is animated, with an on-the-scene reporter, female, observing the trucks of "baggage" moving into the White House, with a leering Bill oogling the reporter at the end.

Shameless, demagogic nonsense.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
10. As a life long Cubs fan
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:02 PM
Nov 2016

this is a huge disappointment to me. Why is there ALWAYS a turd in the punch bowl? It was my 11 year old son who pointed out that Tim Ricketts looks an awful lot like Ted Cruz. Blech....

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
9. Great, but really, 3,500 lawsuits and counting, do you think this will stop anything?
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:54 PM
Nov 2016
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/

That deplorable orange orangutan is perfectly adept in a court room. He's been the plantiff in 1,900 cases, been the defendent in 1,450, and 150 in bankruptcy, third party, or other.

I'm pretty sure the threat of legal action will ring hallow with him. Hell, that ass has been able to say and do just about damn well anything he wanted this season without hardly ever being held to task on it.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
11. Right, but the letter seems to be going to the actual stations
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:05 PM
Nov 2016

They have to defend what they put on the air, and there are actual laws against defamation. I doubt if Trump is going to assist anyone else with legal bills. He doesn't even seem to pay his own.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
14. ahh, I'd missed that. good point.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:18 PM
Nov 2016

Hope it works in taking that lying POS talking point off the air.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
18. It's not Trump that's being told to stop, it's the stations running the ads...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:28 PM
Nov 2016

...THEY may not want to go to court over this. So Trump can shout and scream all he likes, all they have to say is "Sorry, can't run this. The law is on her side."

onenote

(42,598 posts)
12. this is good, but it only applies to non-candidate funded ads
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:07 PM
Nov 2016

Stations can reject non-candidate funded ads. But ads funded by the candidate (the one with the "I'm Donald Trump and I approved this ad" message -- the station cannot reject those ads based on their content. So if Trump wants to continue to place ads stating Hillary is being investigated or that the FBI found her emails on pervert Weiner's laptop, the stations must run them.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. False Ads: There Oughta Be A Law! – Or Maybe Not
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:13 PM
Nov 2016
False Ads: There Oughta Be A Law! – Or Maybe Not

Old article but relevant. They can reject all candidate's ads, but they cannot single out one candidate.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
25. Actually, commercial tv stations may not reject all federal candidate ad buys
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:44 PM
Nov 2016

The Communications Act contains a provision imposing on broadcast licensees a requirement that they provide "reasonable access" to candidates in general elections for federal office (President, Senate, House). A station may not simply refuse to sell time to all federal candidates -- at least some time (a "reasonable" amount) has to be provided for purchase (at the station's "lowest unit rate" for the particular time period/class of ad time).

onenote

(42,598 posts)
37. Yes. A station can't be sued for libel for running an ad it is required to run
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:05 PM
Nov 2016

Moreover, given the high bar for establishing libel where the plaintiff is a public official/public figure, it's unlikely such a suit would succeed against a station even if it wasn't required to run the ad.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
16. She could counteract with falsities of her own like
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:26 PM
Nov 2016

"Trump is a sentient football with a bad case of leakage"

But she's above that.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
21. Wow. I really misread your subject line.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:00 PM
Nov 2016

I parsed it as

Clinton campaign sends legal warning on ads
claiming she's 'under investigation'

As in, they're her ads, and she's claiming that she's being investigated.


Whew!

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
26. Democrats are often far too nice. They need to take the gloves off and knock these asses
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:49 PM
Nov 2016

around. Being pleasant is seen as a weakness. Compromise is seen as a weakness to be exploited.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
27. Well Bloomberg sure did not get the memo.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 07:18 PM
Nov 2016

One of those mentioned Ads hit at 2pm. Just caught one on KNTV/ABC Las Vegas at 3pm. Times are Pacfic time.

BainsBane

(53,015 posts)
38. I've been wondering if she might not have a legal case against Trump
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:13 PM
Nov 2016

for the blatant lies he's told about her.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
42. Probably not.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 12:10 AM
Nov 2016

It's almost unheard of for one candidate to sue another candidate for statements made during a campaign. The First Amendment sets a very high bar for such lawsuit. Winners figure that winning is the best revenge. Losers look like sore losers for suing the winner. So even if it "could" happen, it hardly ever does and pigs will fly before it happens in a presidential race.

SteelSmasher

(35 posts)
41. Here we are
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:59 PM
Nov 2016

We are now at the point where someone needs to say "you are such liar it legally needs to stop, and even the law says so". Maybe I'm not phrasing that right. (and it kind of started with stuff like pictures of President Obama with a bone nose piercing)

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