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Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 10:47 PM Nov 2016

With a Meeting, Trump Renewed a British Wind Farm Fight

Source: New York Times

LONDON When President-elect Donald J. Trump met with the British politician Nigel Farage in recent days, he encouraged Mr. Farage and his entourage to oppose the kind of offshore wind farms that Mr. Trump believes will mar the pristine view from one of his two Scottish golf courses, according to one person present.

The meeting, held shortly after the presidential election, raises new questions about Mr. Trump's willingness to use the power of the presidency to advance his business interests. Mr. Trump has long opposed a wind farm planned near his course in Aberdeenshire, and he previously fought unsuccessfully all the way to Britains highest court to block it.

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Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Mr. Trumps transition office, at first disputed that Mr. Trump had raised the subject of wind farms with Mr. Farage, suggesting that participants in the conversation denied this took place. However, when pressed with the fact that one of the meeting's attendees, Mr. Wigmore, had described the conversation in detail, she declined repeated requests to comment.

Amanda Miller, vice president for marketing at the Trump Organization, also declined through a spokeswoman to comment.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/with-a-meeting-trump-renewed-a-british-wind-farm-fight.html



Not just another emerging Trump conflict-of-interest story, but also another example of Trump's spindoctors swearing blind something didn't happen when it provably did.

I hesitate to give the Express clicks, but it is UKIP's house newspaper, so here's its version of the story:

Donald Trump's opening shot: The wind farm at his golf course

The US President-elect used his first meeting with a British politician since his shock White House victory to criticise the Scottish government for allowing the country to become over-run with wind farms.

In a meeting with the interim Ukip leader Nigel Farage and his team at Trump Tower in New York last weekend, the business tycoon launched into a tirade against the eyesores, which he has previously branded unattractive, ugly, noisy and dangerous.

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"... one thing Mr Trump kept returning to was the issue of wind farms. He is a complete Anglophile and also absolutely adores Scotland which he thinks is one of the most beautiful places on Earth. But he is dismayed that his beloved Scotland has become over-run with ugly wind farms which he believes are a blight on the stunning landscape.

Mr Trump has fought a long-running battle against a wind farm off the coast from his Aberdeenshire course, Trump International Golf Links, which he has previously called an act of public vandalism.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/734195/Donald-trump-Nigel-Farage-Scottish-wind-farms


Trump has tried in the past to use the experimental Vattenfall wind farm development, sited a couple of miles off the coast of his golf course at Menie in Aberdeenshire, as an excuse for not fulfilling his original promises of massive investment and job creation in the area. In reality, he didn't have enough money to complete the development, as he announced before the wind farm even became an issue: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jun/20/donald-trump-golf-resort-scotland .

Trump's also yet again displaying his ignorance of British politics and the fact that his beloved Scotland is a politically distinct country within the UK - the day after the Brexit referendum, he landed at his other Scottish golf course at Turnberry to crow and congratulate the Scottish people for voting Leave; in reality, Scotland voted overwhelmingly for Remain.

UKIP's support in Scotland is extremely thin on the ground, and Nigel Farage can barely set foot in Edinburgh without being cornered in a pub by an excited mob, so his chances of campaigning successfully against offshore investment in wind farms - even if he could be bothered, which I doubt as he prefers his targets human and vulnerable - are, well, slim.

Trump got drubbed in the UK Supreme Court in his last battle on this issue, and it obviously still rankles. Trying to throw his weight around in Scotland again - even as POTUS - is highly likely to backfire. He's not popular here, other than with paid-off lackeys and the usual idiots and arselickers, who mercifully aren't all that numerous, and we desperately need investment in harnessing the vast renewable energy resources that surround us. Much more than we need yet another golf course run by a buffoonish megalomaniac, for sure.
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With a Meeting, Trump Renewed a British Wind Farm Fight (Original Post) Denzil_DC Nov 2016 OP
Every one of these countries that he is trying to bully should do exactly the opposite Tess49 Nov 2016 #1
And then he suggests the Tories should appoint Farage as UK ambassador to the US muriel_volestrangler Nov 2016 #2
Even Nigel Farage thinks that idea's a non-starter: Denzil_DC Nov 2016 #3
Yeah, today, Farage is milking this for all he can muriel_volestrangler Nov 2016 #4
Trump is out for himself and his kids. jpak Nov 2016 #5
Disruptor-in-Chief kebob Nov 2016 #6

Tess49

(1,579 posts)
1. Every one of these countries that he is trying to bully should do exactly the opposite
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:16 PM
Nov 2016

of what he wants.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
2. And then he suggests the Tories should appoint Farage as UK ambassador to the US
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:05 AM
Nov 2016
Downing Street says 'no vacancy' after Donald Trump endorses Nigel Farage as UK ambassador

Downing Street has been forced to defend its choice of ambassador to the United States after President-elect Donald Trump suggested Nigel Farage should be given the job.

Number 10 issued a statement saying there is "no vacancy" for the post, after Mr Trump broke all diplomatic convention to claim that many people want to see Ukip MEP Mr Farage given the influential role.

The new US leader's intervention is deeply uncomfortable for Downing Street, given it has already tried to dismiss the idea of the interim Ukip leader having any diplomatic position.
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After Mr Trump's comment, a Downing Street spokesman said: "There is no vacancy. We have an excellent ambassador to the US."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-farage-ambassador-downing-street-theresa-may-us-elections-a7431236.html

Trump doesn't even understand that Farage is a political opponent of the Tories. It's like us suggesting that Barack Obama would make a nice ambassador to the UK, now that he's free, and Trump should look into that. Hell, I'd love that, but it's not something a serious government says.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
3. Even Nigel Farage thinks that idea's a non-starter:
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:18 AM
Nov 2016

"Oh, I don't think I'm the ambassadorial type."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/donald-trump-nigel-farage-love-9306738

Well, that was yesterday. Maybe today he's warming to the idea, because he's sobered up. Or he's pissed today, and was sober yesterday. Who can keep up?

The heat's on over here, so I can understand his urge to piss off abroad:

UKIP faces UK probe into EU funding allegations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38063933

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
4. Yeah, today, Farage is milking this for all he can
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:27 AM
Nov 2016

The nasty little toad has got a compliment from someone finally, so he's going to hang on to it:

Nigel Farage has accused Downing Street of putting its dislike of him ahead of the national interest after No 10 dismissed Donald Trump's comment that he could be a "great" ambassador.

The UKIP leader said No 10 needed to accept "the world has changed", adding he was "in a good position, with the president-elect's support, to help".
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"The dislike of me, UKIP, and the referendum result is more important to them than what could be good for our country."

Mr Farage said politicians who had been "openly abusive about Trump now pretend to be his friend".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38064664

Well, I do agree that those who were openly abusive of Trump should continue to be so ...
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