Updated election results in Philly: Clinton nets 17,873 votes

[Coyotl]

Last edited Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: http://www.dailykos.com

Clinton: 563,275, Trump: 105,876. The updated totals (final count):

Clinton: 584,020, Trump: 108,748.

That means Hillary netted 17,873 votes from Philly, after provisional (HC: 7,673, DT: 866) and absentee (HC:13,072, DT: 2,006) ballots were included. Theres a spreadsheet at the Philly Commissioners web site that includes these breakdowns, but I called to make sure they were the most up-to-date results.

Overall, Trumps lead in PA has shrunk to 46,435 votes, down from around 68,000, so these figures from Philadelphia make up the bulk of the 21,500 drop.

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/1/1606087/-Updated-election-results-in-Philly-Clinton-nets-17-873-votes

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In 2004 the same Senate seats were on the ballot, some of the same Senators. Note how the exit polls compare, positive is red shift, and how many of the states red shift. 2016 is double the shift in 2004, trending moreso in red states, more than doubled in the battleground states with robust polling where pre-election polls agree with the exit polls. States without Senate races have a lower red shift in both 2004 and 2016; the 2004 50 state mean was 1.9% red shift and the 2016 29 state mean is 3.52% in 2016, a dramatic difference with the 20 Senate race states at 4.7%.

[Abouttime]

1. WOW!

These recounts might actually reverse the election

[Grown2Hate]

2. HMMM... I wonder if there are absentee/provisional to count in the other counties still?

And this is BEFORE any type of recount. I'm STILL not getting my hopes up, but these are some pretty goddamn razor thin margins here...

[turbinetree]

3. I bet the dumpster team is going bat sh** crazy right now

This is just great,

[Farmgirl1961]

4. Does anyone know if there are other democratic leaning counties still counting ballots?

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Okay

One of the arguments made about the Philly turnout this election cycle, was that it was "way down" from 2012. But based on the updated 2016 figures, it's only about 4,000 less that what Obama got in 2012 -

Obama: [font color="red"]588,806[/font] Romney: [font color="red"]96,467[/font]

http://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/ENR_New/General/CountyResults?countyName=Philadelphia&ElectionID=27&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

What is still significant is the 10,000 vote "margin" that Drumpf got over Romney comparing 2016 to 2012.

As for "potential" however, in 2008 you had this -

Obama: [font color="red"]595,980[/font] McCain: [font color="red"]117,221[/font]

http://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/ENR_New/General/CountyResults?countyName=Philadelphia&ElectionID=17&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

So over these last 3 elections, McCain bested Drumpf and Romney on the R side, and there was about a 7,000 vote drop from 2008 to both 2012 & 2016 on the D side.

[Coyotl]

6. Pennsylvania analysis

Spreadsheet here: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AnpcCOQ6UEI1ilyWVYYvwaK9Hq_i

Pennsylvania Vote - By The Numbers
dKos Nov 23, 2016 - http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/23/1603619/-Pennsylvania-Vote-By-The-Numbers

[Grey Lemercier]

7. thanks for the further info. I was an early observer of Luzerne, thought

it was relatively odd, but somewhat explained, BUT now, knowing that is went 75 percent for Hillary in 2008 Dem primary, but 8 years later went for Trump by 20 plus (AFTER VOTING FOR OBAMA IN 08 12)

the shit is dodgy!!!!!

[Coyotl]

18. The source behind the most current updates is this aggregator:

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ

[TeddyBear 1]

8. Trump halts Michigan Recount

Trump halts Michigan Recount
http://www.nbc26.com/news/trumps-objection-halts-michigan-recount

[FailureToCommunicate]

9. The election is only rigged if Trump says so apparently. Welcome to DU, btw.

[KewlKat]

12. I suppose if it had been Hillary to file the request for recount it would have had more merit?

since she was so close to his vote total.

[Coyotl]

19. Not for long, I suspect.

It is ironic that the candidate who claims millions of illegal votes were cast wants to prevent recounting. Nothing but bullshit for four years isn't going to be easy.

Welcome to DU.

[TheWayitIs]

10. Hillary won the popular vote by millions.

Hillary won the popular vote by millions. Here's a petition to sign if you think that should make her president:

This is big because Chelsea Handler is fully behind it

https://twitter.com/chelseahandler/status/804436076588769280

Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=644470148&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive

[Coyotl]

16. A psychic she claims. What does she know that we don't?

Wouldn't bet my psychic career on this one.

[metalbot]

21. While I would be very open to discussing getting rig of EC

Doing so at this point is changing the rules after the fact. Both candidates ran on an electoral strategy, and one lost. I mean, one would think that trump couldn't have won the popular vote if that were what he were trying to do, but I didn't think he could win a state strategy either.

[MadDAsHell]

11. Am I understanding that these are simply ballots that hadn't been counted yet?

That maybe they don't typically count right away if it's not close?

i.e. not yet a recount?

If so, it's very encouraging that it's getting this close even without the recount. In fact, it's kind of amazing that they would call a state race with a spread of only 70,000 votes when there are ~23,000 uncounted votes from one single city, isn't it?

[Coyotl]

14. This is official results including provisional and absentee ballots for one city.

Albeit, the big stronghold of Dem voters, Philadelphia.

[Cha]

13. K&R!

[triron]

15. Where does the other 5000+ come from?

[Coyotl]

17. Official results report, vote count shifts. Lots of provisional ballots are Dems, suppression impact

[lonestarnot]

20. More more more!