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pstokely

(10,528 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:52 PM Dec 2016

Dean drops out of DNC chairmanship race

Source: The Hill

DENVER — Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean dropped out of the race to become the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Friday.

Dean, who served as DNC chairman from 2005 to 2009, announced in a pre-recorded video to a conference of state Democratic chairs that he would step aside to allow for a new face to lead the party as it seeks to rebuild.
That reduces the field of candidates to three.

The front-runner is Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), who has racked up endorsements from Washington lawmakers and national labor unions.

South Carolina Democratic Chairman Jaime Harrison and New Hampshire Chairman Ray Buckley are also in the race.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308547-dean-drops-out-of-dnc-chairmanship-race

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Dean drops out of DNC chairmanship race (Original Post) pstokely Dec 2016 OP
oh drats!! riversedge Dec 2016 #1
Whatever. Both DNC and RNC are weak players in this era, and Hortensis Dec 2016 #26
Good details from Politico, co-chairs possibility, Perez Hortensis Dec 2016 #48
Thank God mattocaster6 Dec 2016 #2
Yes, Keith will represent the progressive movement admirably! Another wise move by Bernie to support him for DNC Chair. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #22
that's too bad. he was my favorite choice JI7 Dec 2016 #3
I like Dean but he's gotten to close to the health care lobby NWCorona Dec 2016 #4
Dean has become a lobbyist for Big Pharma. Not our guy. Zen Democrat Dec 2016 #5
Agree! burrowowl Dec 2016 #40
Ellison is very effective, but needs to stay in the House to raise hell there, IMHO. LuckyLib Dec 2016 #6
He doesn't have to leave the House to be DNC chair n/t lordsummerisle Dec 2016 #7
True, but DWS tried to keep both plates in the air. I think the DNC is a full-time job. LuckyLib Dec 2016 #14
But he should. The DNC chair is a full time job and he'd need on the job training. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #38
Damn it. LisaM Dec 2016 #8
I agree. MBS Dec 2016 #11
I believe that Dean is feeling like many of us. leftofcool Dec 2016 #17
If we stand up for the 99% rather than sell out JonLP24 Dec 2016 #19
Obama won, but he has had zero coattails LisaM Dec 2016 #21
That is completely false. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #43
Exactly. LisaM Dec 2016 #47
Oh please, the Dem Party tried to become Rep Lite. That's so wrong. We're Progressives. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #30
Yes because Trump ran on centrist/right positions. Red Knight Dec 2016 #45
I wish they could convince Secy of Labor Tom Perez to run for it. hollowdweller Dec 2016 #9
Perez is my choice, too. femmocrat Dec 2016 #15
hopefully he backs Harrison or Buckley. Those two have the vision and time to be good. TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #10
I am worried about Ellison's baggage, too. MBS Dec 2016 #12
There is no baggage... why bash fellow Democrats? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #23
not bashing him. I like him! MBS Dec 2016 #27
ohh ok, gotcha. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #31
Who cares what Republicans think about our DNC Chair? PassingFair Dec 2016 #42
agree about having someone full time who doesn't have a day job wordpix Dec 2016 #49
He was the best candidate for the job! Sorry to see him drop out! hrmjustin Dec 2016 #13
Dean certainly would not have been a bad choice... but far from the best candidate. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #24
Dean has a history of winning strategies in 2006 and 2008. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #25
Best qualified, perhaps... doesn't necessarily mean best choice... but I hear ya. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #32
In keeping with the theme of change and a new era for the Democratic Party INdemo Dec 2016 #16
Didn't know Walt was still alive. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #33
Yep he is still alive ..he is 88 INdemo Dec 2016 #39
Howard Dean... annarbor Dec 2016 #18
That's very disappointing nt Raine Dec 2016 #20
His ideas were correct in 2006. Internationalist Dec 2016 #28
Yes, I agree. potone Dec 2016 #29
Along with a true progressive woman/man of the people. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #34
How dare he make a living. Now go slam the Sierra Club for lobbying. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #37
The Sierra Club lobbies for Big Pharma? Who knew. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #53
Too Bad, Really kebob Dec 2016 #35
Does anyone know anything about Jaime Harrison? radical noodle Dec 2016 #36
I like Howard Dean wish he would have gotten this hankthecrank Dec 2016 #41
I wanted Howard Dean... FarPoint Dec 2016 #44
Sorry to see Dean passing this up. Paladin Dec 2016 #46
The DNC can still use his help and his voice, we Ds need all the GOOD 'help' we can get. Sunlei Dec 2016 #50
Congress is scheduled to be in session 133 days this year Motley13 Dec 2016 #51
He said he would resign from the House if he was made chairman. He's serious about this. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #52

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Whatever. Both DNC and RNC are weak players in this era, and
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:24 PM
Dec 2016

we shouldn't be making too much of this. There are many liberal power blocs around the nation that are more powerful. Let's face it, in a worst case, if some inept ideologues did gum up the workings for a while, real power would just quietly work around it.

That said, I did like Tom Perez for the job, just because I admire him a lot, but then maybe he was saying, good grief, no!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. Good details from Politico, co-chairs possibility, Perez
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 04:14 PM
Dec 2016

still possibility, AFL-CIO members angry at ballot with only Ellison's name on it...

People surrounding Ellison have been working to determine the White House’s intentions in the wake of speculation about a Perez endorsement while Democrats aligned with Sanders have been frustrated that the Minnesota congressman’s team hasn’t relied more on them.


“A lot of the voting members are waiting for [someone new to enter the race],” said former DNC chairman and Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell, recommending the re-institution of a dual- or multi-chairman system similar to the one implemented under President Bill Clinton in the 1990s, given the lack of a unanimously popular candidate.

"Everybody likes — and I put myself in this category — Keith Ellison. We like his personality, his passion, his energy. We like that he represents the part of the party that’s where the energy is coming from. But everybody has doubts, with all the challenges we face, that one could do the job in a part-time capacity."


Personally, I'm hoping Obama's choice will carry over. Obama intends to be very involved in shaping the party's future, and I suspect he wants a DNC chair who shares his vision.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
22. Yes, Keith will represent the progressive movement admirably! Another wise move by Bernie to support him for DNC Chair.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:07 PM
Dec 2016

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
6. Ellison is very effective, but needs to stay in the House to raise hell there, IMHO.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:04 PM
Dec 2016

Somebody else can herd the cats.

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
8. Damn it.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:18 PM
Dec 2016

I was really pulling for him. I want someone who's not in office to do this. It doesn't make any sense to have someone who can't devote to this full time.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
17. I believe that Dean is feeling like many of us.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:24 PM
Dec 2016

We are done with the Democratic Party. Let the so called progressives have it. They can remake it farther to the left and continue to lose elections.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. If we stand up for the 99% rather than sell out
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:28 PM
Dec 2016

We shouldn't have a problem. Obama won in 2008 on a progressive platform.

On edit: see that Ellison has endorsements from labor unions.

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
21. Obama won, but he has had zero coattails
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:49 PM
Dec 2016

I think he's been a fine President, but he won on personality, not message (I'm not knocking his message). If people cared deeply about that, they would have delivered him the House and Senate in 2010 and 2012, and they would have voted to keep his work going now.

Ace Rothstein

(3,161 posts)
43. That is completely false.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

We've won one election in the last 16 years when Obama hasn't been on the ticket.

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
47. Exactly.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:11 PM
Dec 2016

It wasn't his message that people voted for. It was him. Then those same voters couldn't do him the courtesy of giving him a Congress he could work with and they couldn't be bothered ti turn out a couple hundred thousand more people so that we could continue his progress. They sat by and niw ut will all be undone. That tells me that his message was not effective enough.

 

TuslaUltra

(75 posts)
10. hopefully he backs Harrison or Buckley. Those two have the vision and time to be good.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:19 PM
Dec 2016

and unlike another candidate, lack the baggage.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
12. I am worried about Ellison's baggage, too.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:26 PM
Dec 2016

I can all too easily imagine how the Repubs will hype those topics at every opportunity.
I also think that we need somehow who can devote himself full-time to the task.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
27. not bashing him. I like him!
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:52 PM
Dec 2016

I think he's a terrific congressman. But, for DNC chair, we have got to have someone who is not as vulnerable to caricature by the Republican machine as I fear he is. (It's unfair, but they are sure to zero in on his Muslim faith, and on those statements he's made about Castro, Israel, etc.)If you think that this will not be a problem, all I can say is that I wish I shared your optimism.

Even if my worries on this score turn out to be baseless (and I would be very happy if that turned out to be the case) , I STILL think that we really need a full-time DNC chair, not someone with a "day job" to distract him from this BIG job we've got to win more state and local elections, and win back at least one house of Congress, in 2018, and generally to get the Democratic message out across every precinct in this country.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
42. Who cares what Republicans think about our DNC Chair?
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 12:41 PM
Dec 2016

They don't get a vote and the Chairman isn't there to do republican outreach! I know that Dean would have been a great Chair, he's got a proven track record and a reputation for fairness. In this past cycle, Wasserman-Schultz was a lapdog for the Clinton campaign, with NO hint of the impartiality required to run a race that could be perceived as "fair", that was the problem with her, NOT that she had a day job. Personally I'd love to see Nina Turner, Van Jones, or Russ Feingold take the job.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
24. Dean certainly would not have been a bad choice... but far from the best candidate.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:15 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Sat Dec 3, 2016, 12:51 AM - Edit history (1)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
25. Dean has a history of winning strategies in 2006 and 2008.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:17 PM
Dec 2016

The others might be good people but not more qualified than Dean.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. In keeping with the theme of change and a new era for the Democratic Party
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:21 PM
Dec 2016

by seeing Nancy Pelosi re-elected as Democratic leader in the House and in the Senate the real change candidate Chuck Schumer as Minority leader, perhaps Democrats should seek Walter Mondale to serve as DNC chairman and keep the tradition of real change for the Democrats going full steam ahead here in 2016....

annarbor

(570 posts)
18. Howard Dean...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:27 PM
Dec 2016

Was my one and only choice for DNC Chair. This sucks huge. For me it was just hope it was a bit of good news in an otherwise horrible month.

Internationalist

(27 posts)
28. His ideas were correct in 2006.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:53 PM
Dec 2016

Democrats need to adopt a national fifty state strategy again. However, they don't need a DNC chair with his connections to lobbying and political donations. It is sad to see what Howard Dean became.

potone

(1,701 posts)
29. Yes, I agree.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:20 PM
Dec 2016

I am very disappointed in him. I am glad that he took himself out of the running, despite the fact that he did a very good job in that position before.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
36. Does anyone know anything about Jaime Harrison?
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 12:13 AM
Dec 2016

I saw him being interviewed one evening and I liked him but know nothing about him.

hankthecrank

(653 posts)
41. I like Howard Dean wish he would have gotten this
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:32 AM
Dec 2016

Voted for Ellison as he is my senator and like him in that job. I feel he should not do both jobs. Dean did a good job with his 50 state policy

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
46. Sorry to see Dean passing this up.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:34 PM
Dec 2016

And I don't see how Ellison gets us that all-important voting segment we're being told to relentlessly pursue: the No-Information White Guys who pledged their allegiance to the Orangefuhrer, this time around.


(Very light sarcasm alert.)

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
51. Congress is scheduled to be in session 133 days this year
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 05:20 PM
Dec 2016


plenty of time left to chair DNC.

Don't you wish you got paid what they do for 133 days a year?



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