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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:31 PM Dec 2016

Tom Brady becomes winningest QB in NFL history

Source: MassLive

Tom Brady has won more football games than any other quarterback in NFL history.

Sunday's victory over the Los Angeles Rams was the victory was the 201st of Brady's career with the New England Patriots (counting regular season and playoffs). The previous record was Peyton Manning's career mark of 200 wins.

Read more: http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2016/12/tom_brady_becomes_becomes_winn.html#incart_big-photo



Entire uncorrected title:Tom Brady becomes becomes winningest QB in NFL history, notches 201st victory over Rams
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Tom Brady becomes winningest QB in NFL history (Original Post) SecularMotion Dec 2016 OP
USA Today: "Tom Brady Cheated his way to a Super Bowl." pnwmom Dec 2016 #1
I still say congratulations to him yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #12
Well of course you do. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #13
Those wins will always be tainted by the specter of cheating. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #15
An asterisk by his name. Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #16
NOBODY has beaten the Rams THAT many times!!!!! benld74 Dec 2016 #2
Except the Rams! Indydem Dec 2016 #22
Yup yup benld74 Dec 2016 #24
Boooo nycbos Dec 2016 #3
Same as Barroid Bonds home run record. YUUUGE ASTERISK with that record. madinmaryland Dec 2016 #4
Same as Barroid Bonds home run record. YUUUGE ASTERISK with that record. madinmaryland Dec 2016 #5
* briv1016 Dec 2016 #6
He's No Montana kebob Dec 2016 #7
Both Brady and Manning are way better than Terry Bradshaw JonLP24 Dec 2016 #9
Republican QBs LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #11
Money jack69 Dec 2016 #18
Most NBA players are Democrats JonLP24 Dec 2016 #21
Cheater redstateblues Dec 2016 #8
Direct from the Wells report after the investigation: pnwmom Dec 2016 #10
Fuck him. . .the Trump loving, cheating asshole. Don't care and will never care Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #14
Trumpeteer jack69 Dec 2016 #17
Shady Brady El Supremo Dec 2016 #19
Cancer is cured! tenderfoot Dec 2016 #20
Cheater. AngryAmish Dec 2016 #23
Cause he's a cheater Loryn Dec 2016 #25
Are his balls still deflated? milestogo Dec 2016 #26
Sure but once you subtract 30% of those wins because he's Tom Brady, and petronius Dec 2016 #27
A cheater on a cheating team. SHRED Dec 2016 #28
Sorry Brady is a dick MFM008 Dec 2016 #29

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
1. USA Today: "Tom Brady Cheated his way to a Super Bowl."
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016

And he's a big Trump supporter. No need to celebrate him here.

Whether the cheating was directly at Brady's behest or some assistant manager's rogue decision, that Super Bowl win wasn't deserved.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/tom-brady-cheater-new-england-patriots-wells-report-deflategate

You still want that apology, Robert Kraft? The one you’ve been smarmily waiting for since February, acting high and mighty in your two-toned shirts, certain that the New England Patriots had nothing to do with the Deflategate controversy and projecting such a confident air with your statements that there’s “no smoking gun,” leading most to believe that you knew something they didn’t — that the Wells Report was a witch hunt that would exonerate those always-honest Patriots?

It was anything but. Despite the headlines that say the Patriots weren’t proved to be involved in wrongdoing in the long-awaited Wells Report, they were. Just because it was lower-level employees doesn’t make the Pats any less culpable. No, the report didn’t reveal some massive Watergate-style cover-up, but told us what we generally expected: Some assistant managers were messing around with the football, likely at the behest of Tom Brady. It’s not cause for a football death penalty, but it’s still cheating and shows the Pats haven’t learned a thing in the decade since their dalliance with illegal videotaping of teams.

But there’s no apology coming from Kraft. He doesn’t know to leave things alone and criticized the report for not having any “hard evidence” that the Patriots were involved in the deflation of balls. But what does that mean — hard evidence? There’s not a videotape of it? The guys deflating the balls didn’t sit for an oil painting of them using a needle to get the balls to 11 PSI? It’s circumstantial evidence, hearsay and conjecture that Brady giving “the deflator,” the nickname the employee responsible for the deflation called himself, a pair of autographed footballs and signed a game-worn jersey that he had previously obtained was possible a thank you for getting those football to the illegal PSI which Brady preferred?

Maybe that’s not enough to get a conviction in a court of law, but in a court of common sense it was always likely Tom Brady knew. It was ridiculous all along to believe that a man who spent so much time handling footballs couldn’t tell the difference between one under-inflated and one properly inflated. If Ted Williams used to know when his bats were off by a touch of an ounce, Brady knew this. So what kind of cheating was it? He’s not necessarily a guy who could cork his bat, just one who might add a little too much pine tar. It’s reasonable to assume Brady didn’t think it was cheating, just getting a little home-field cooking, the same way the Giants used to control the wind at The Meadowlands or Red Auerbach would crank up the heat at the Boston Garden. But nobody had to answer for that, while Brady stood up in front of media members after the AFC championship and basically laughed off any wrongdoing.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
12. I still say congratulations to him
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:02 PM
Dec 2016

Quite an accomplishment. The deflategate is done and punishments completed. Beyond that he is history in the books. Good for him.

 

kebob

(499 posts)
7. He's No Montana
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:52 PM
Dec 2016

Or Elway. Or Aikman. Or even Bradshaw. I would, however, rank him above Peyton Manning, The Most Overrated Quarterback In NFL History.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
9. Both Brady and Manning are way better than Terry Bradshaw
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:57 PM
Dec 2016

I personally feel Manning is the best but I'd put Otto Graham and Bart Starr in the discussion.

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
11. Republican QBs
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 06:08 PM
Dec 2016

Elway -- Republican
Staubach -- Republican
Aikman -- Republican
Manning -- Republican
Montana -- Republican

jack69

(163 posts)
18. Money
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:31 PM
Dec 2016

Even Shaq says we should give Trump a chance. Money talks. Paying taxes is the ultimate in patriotism as long as it benefits the most people.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. Most NBA players are Democrats
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:32 PM
Dec 2016

And what Shaq says is the same exact thing I hear from a lot of people in Arizona "give him a chance" but they don't follow the news like I do.

I think a lot of these people were probably Republicans before they had money like many NBA players were Democrats before they made money.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
10. Direct from the Wells report after the investigation:
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 06:06 PM
Dec 2016
https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/investigative-and-expert-reports-re-footballs-used-during-afc-championsh.pdf

For the reasons described in this Report, and after a comprehensive investigation, we have concluded that, in connection with the AFC Championship Game, it is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel participated in violations of the Playing Rules and were involved in a deliberate effort to circumvent the rules. In particular, we have concluded that it is more probable than not that Jim McNally (the Officials Locker Room attendant for the Patriots) and John Jastremski (an equipment assistant for the Patriots) participated in a deliberate effort to release air from Patriots game balls after the balls were examined by the referee. Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady (the quarterback for the Patriots) was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.
 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
14. Fuck him. . .the Trump loving, cheating asshole. Don't care and will never care
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
Dec 2016

Montana beat people in the Super Bowl on the strength of his arm.

Brady did on the strength of his kicker's leg! Fuck him! That MAGA hat in his locker always says that he's another worthless asshole 1%er.

petronius

(26,597 posts)
27. Sure but once you subtract 30% of those wins because he's Tom Brady, and
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 10:27 PM
Dec 2016

deduct another 40% because of Belichick, and then take away the 45% penalty because Patriots, it turns out he's actually the losingest QB in NFL history. The losingest athlete in any sport since forever, actually...

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