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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:48 PM Dec 2016

Fukushima radiation detected in Tillamook Bay, Gold Beach

Source: KGW/NBC

For the first time, seaborne radiation from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster has been detected on the West Coast of the United States.

Cesium-134, the so-called fingerprint of Fukushima, was measured in seawater samples taken from Tillamook Bay and Gold Beach in Oregon, researchers from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution are reporting.

Because of its short half-life, cesium-134 can only have come from Fukushima.

Also for the first time, cesium-134 has been detected in a Canadian salmon, the Fukushima InFORM project, led by University of Victoria chemical oceanographer Jay Cullen, is reporting.

Read more: http://www.kgw.com/mb/news/local/central-coast/fukushima-radiation-detected-in-tillamook-bay-gold-beach/366240224



Scary stuff.
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Fukushima radiation detected in Tillamook Bay, Gold Beach (Original Post) NWCorona Dec 2016 OP
Another reason to give Salmon and other sea fishes a break ffr Dec 2016 #1
really. aquaculture has come a long way. mopinko Dec 2016 #9
The problem with fish farms is disease and the unnatural feed given. NWCorona Dec 2016 #12
I tried some fish farm Salmon. Scruffy1 Dec 2016 #16
Yup! Fatty salmon is where it's at NWCorona Dec 2016 #19
well, aquaponics is sorta that. mopinko Dec 2016 #17
It's tough as I eat sushi at least 6 times a week! Salmon is one of my favorite too NWCorona Dec 2016 #13
I'm not surprised. jimlup Dec 2016 #2
Thanks and I feel the same. My take is that this is that Canary in the coal mine NWCorona Dec 2016 #11
"Scary stuff." If you are refering to the Cesium-134 Buesseler does not seem to think so. cstanleytech Dec 2016 #3
The fact that anything from Fukushima made it here is scary stuff NWCorona Dec 2016 #5
I worry more about the shit like mercury that has a "half life" of fucking FOREVER. hunter Dec 2016 #20
Yes. Mercury is as it stands now is by far a greater danger to us NWCorona Dec 2016 #21
KNR Lucinda Dec 2016 #4
the levels are 1000x less than what is considered an action level rdking647 Dec 2016 #6
Hey, stop with all that sciencey stuff. progressoid Dec 2016 #7
That's a bit shortsighted IMHO. These levels can stay static or they can increase over time. NWCorona Dec 2016 #10
Or they can and will decrease rdking647 Dec 2016 #14
Yes. It's called half-life and as the link states. NWCorona Dec 2016 #18
Get your pre cooked The Wizard Dec 2016 #8
Better still, there's even more to love about seafood ffr Dec 2016 #15

ffr

(22,665 posts)
1. Another reason to give Salmon and other sea fishes a break
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:59 PM
Dec 2016

They're having a hard enough time as it is with our over-fishing. Don't need to pile on after we (humans) gave them this gift.

mopinko

(70,069 posts)
9. really. aquaculture has come a long way.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 06:10 PM
Dec 2016

aquaponics is all the rage in urban farming. would like to get into it myself.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. The problem with fish farms is disease and the unnatural feed given.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:29 PM
Dec 2016

I do agree with the idea and I've seen some good fish farms in Mexico actually but it's few and far in between.

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
16. I tried some fish farm Salmon.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:31 PM
Dec 2016

It was a disaster in my smoker. Not enough fat. Doesn't taste very good to me either.

mopinko

(70,069 posts)
17. well, aquaponics is sorta that.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:31 PM
Dec 2016

you have a whole natural cycle, so it is a little more resilient. its no good to you to try to abuse either end of the cycle.
lots of folks doing it organically, sorta. there isnt such a thing. organic is only for dirt.
but the industry is trying to find standards.

i am small potatoes. not big enough to do much damage.

i agree there are a lot of concerns about the right way to get away from ocean fish, tho. it is really disgusting what the full price tag of sushi is.
(i do eat is. there is no clean gallon of oil, and there are few clean meals. but i got places to go, and my belly demands food.)

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
2. I'm not surprised.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:59 PM
Dec 2016

Unfortunately, I think we will continue to detect Fukashima radiation in our food chain for many centuries to come.

Thanks for posting it!

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
3. "Scary stuff." If you are refering to the Cesium-134 Buesseler does not seem to think so.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:23 PM
Dec 2016

"Even that peak won’t be a health concern, Buesseler said. But the models will help scientists model ocean currents in the future."

His main concern appears to be if the remaining fuel was to breech containment as that would really pose a hazard.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
20. I worry more about the shit like mercury that has a "half life" of fucking FOREVER.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 12:07 AM
Dec 2016

We humans should have abandoned fossil fuels in the 'seventies.

Now we're screwed. Global warming will leave much of our world civilization looking like Aleppo.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
21. Yes. Mercury is as it stands now is by far a greater danger to us
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 12:16 AM
Dec 2016

And I used to play with that shit when I was a kid. I probably have even more exposure to it now because of all the fish I eat.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
6. the levels are 1000x less than what is considered an action level
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 05:11 PM
Dec 2016

the level measures was 0.3 becquerels per cubic meter thats .0003 becquerels per liter
normal seawater has a level of 10-15 Beq/l

so the level of radioactivitie from teh cesium is 33000 time less that the naturally occurring background radiation


not scary at all




NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
10. That's a bit shortsighted IMHO. These levels can stay static or they can increase over time.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:25 PM
Dec 2016

It's not like Fukushima is under control. That plant is still leaking into the Pacific Ocean.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
14. Or they can and will decrease
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:04 PM
Dec 2016

As time passes more and more of the radioactive stuff decays into less radioactive stuff. It's simple science as opposed to fear

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
18. Yes. It's called half-life and as the link states.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:56 PM
Dec 2016

Cs134 and Cs137 has a t1?2 of 2 and 30 years.

The question I have is. Did you read the link?

"A recent InFORM analysis of Buesseler’s data concluded that concentrations of cesium-137 have increased considerably in the central northeast Pacific, although they still are at levels that pose no concern.

“It appears that the plume has spread throughout this vast area from Alaska to California,” the scientists wrote.

They estimated that the plume is moving toward the coast at roughly twice the speed of a garden snail.

Radiation levels have not yet peaked. “As the contamination plume progresses towards our coast we expect levels closer to shore to increase over the coming year,” Cullen said.""

And this quotation is from an actual scientist speaking on his scientific research.

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