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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:53 PM Dec 2016

Intelligence Agencies Distressed by Trump's Rejection of Findings on Russia

Source: NBC News

President-elect Donald Trump's dismissal of U.S. intelligence findings that Russia tried to sway the presidential election is a distressing slap in the face to the intelligence community, current and former U.S. intelligence officials said Sunday.

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The comment, like others that Trump made during the campaign, "is contrary to all that is sacred to national security professionals who work day and night to protect this country," a U.S. intelligence official told NBC News.

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A congressional official with knowledge of the issue told NBC News on Saturday that the CIA has concluded that Russia mounted a covert intelligence operation to help Trump win the election.

Another source briefed on the intelligence told NBC News that the U.S. government has identified specific Russian actors it believes were involved in computer systems hacks — based on intercepted communications, human tips and computer forensics.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/intelligence-agencies-distressed-trump-s-rejection-findings-russia-n694686

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Intelligence Agencies Distressed by Trump's Rejection of Findings on Russia (Original Post) sabra Dec 2016 OP
But he is SMART liberal N proud Dec 2016 #1
A is for Asshole? Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #2
I added it liberal N proud Dec 2016 #3
The realDonaldTrump TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #23
"human tips" Strelnikov_ Dec 2016 #4
Open Borders for Intelligence bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #5
The Russian State LOVES foreigner-bashing and gay bashing. MADem Dec 2016 #7
Of course he is going to reject the findings. Screw him - this must go where it needs to go! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #6
And, he most likely owes a lot of money to Russian folk n/t tom_kelly Dec 2016 #11
The Flynn clan will be providing this country's intelligence now ck4829 Dec 2016 #8
Trump knows damn well it's true. He's lying again. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #9
He gets his intel from the KGB / FSB. Who needs the CIA? lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #28
Very simply, we need to have more secure and inclusive elections bhikkhu Dec 2016 #10
What else do you expect from a Russian puppet? n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #12
Damn straight. sofa king Dec 2016 #27
He inherits the office, he will never be re-elected or, rather elected. duffyduff Dec 2016 #30
Where in the Constitution does it say.... sofa king Dec 2016 #33
How can he do anything else? ananda Dec 2016 #13
All we need to do is get him under oath meow2u3 Dec 2016 #16
Is part of the Putin/Trump plan to discredit the CIA to make them easy pickings for the KGB? world wide wally Dec 2016 #14
Where are the Anti-United Nations Republicans bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #15
I beleive the professionals in our CIA & FBI are well trained to deal with all kinds of people. napi21 Dec 2016 #17
Yeah, like the Security Committee will really care. dhol82 Dec 2016 #19
It's not ALL. The committees all consist of one more of the majority party than the minority. I'm napi21 Dec 2016 #21
What did trump know, and when did he know it. alfredo Dec 2016 #18
Didn't Old Joe Stalin have something to say about votes? MADem Dec 2016 #20
duh. he IS the crimean candidate. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #22
Hey you! Solly Mack Dec 2016 #24
Any Surprise That He Would Treat It Like Any Other News... TomCADem Dec 2016 #25
can't blame them! demon in basement Dec 2016 #26
trumpfuhrer administration heaven05 Dec 2016 #29
Our entire US foreign policy is based on 9/ll stollen Dec 2016 #31
They need to investigate that server in Trump Tower BainsBane Dec 2016 #32

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
4. "human tips"
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:14 PM
Dec 2016

Who sure as hell better be out of the reach of Russian Intelligence after the inauguration.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
5. Open Borders for Intelligence
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:24 PM
Dec 2016

He said he would protect us from Mooslims and Mexicans

He didn't say anything about Russians

What's the sense of all this nationalism if you don't use the
intelligence to protect our businesses and state secrets?

This is dangerous, foreign countries are after our patents and
trademarks all the time

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
6. Of course he is going to reject the findings. Screw him - this must go where it needs to go!
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:24 PM
Dec 2016

He isn't president yet. He is one large mouthed, wealthy (he says - but is he really - where are the taxes?) narcissistic man child that has always seen himself above the law, above regulations - above everything. A much stronger hand needs to be played - too much kow towing, too much normalization going on.

ck4829

(35,038 posts)
8. The Flynn clan will be providing this country's intelligence now
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

Looking for Arabic signs on the southern border, finding out which chestnuts are being lazy, trying to look at Iran as the real source of various social problems, taking the lead on pizzagate, you know, stuff like that.

bhikkhu

(10,712 posts)
10. Very simply, we need to have more secure and inclusive elections
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:49 PM
Dec 2016

The less people vote, the easier it is to steal an election. The easier it is to hack and get away with it, the more often it happens.

One perspective is that the US came out of the recession stronger and more prosperous than any other country. If you are any other country in the world, you want a piece of that. Competing openly is one way, but we don't have many vulnerabilities. Competing militarily is out of the question. What we do have is an absurdly bad election process, an easily swayed populace, and a media full of charlatans. If you are Putin, who's country has suffered under crippling sanctions, what was easier than helping place an easily manipulated dope at the top of his biggest competitor?

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
27. Damn straight.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 11:02 AM
Dec 2016

They're just letting Trump dig in for a while. Just wait until later this week, when someone drops a direct line of communication. Remember when Paul Manafort and Carter Page wandered off into the wilderness?

The only problem with all of this is that this is the Republican plan. They didn't want either nominee as President. So they hatched a plan to steal it from everyone, on the grounds that both candidates are disqualified.

If Paul Ryan inherits the office--and that's what all of this is really about--the Republican Party is never giving it back.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
30. He inherits the office, he will never be re-elected or, rather elected.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 11:51 AM
Dec 2016

Don't believe me? That is what happened with Gerald Ford.

Appointed presidents are not legitimate by definition.

Ryan is not particularly well liked by his own party, either.

The ONLY legitimate choice in this election is the one who won the popular vote.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
33. Where in the Constitution does it say....
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:22 AM
Dec 2016

... that an Acting President has to be elected at all, ever? Where does it limit the length of his term, at all?

See where that's headed?

ananda

(28,836 posts)
13. How can he do anything else?
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:34 PM
Dec 2016

To admit it would be tantamount to confessing to treason.

He's trying to bluff his way through this.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
16. All we need to do is get him under oath
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:46 PM
Dec 2016

Then we'll have the confession of treason. THEN his ass will really be grass!

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
14. Is part of the Putin/Trump plan to discredit the CIA to make them easy pickings for the KGB?
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:35 PM
Dec 2016

This may be even more dangerous than we thought.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
15. Where are the Anti-United Nations Republicans
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:36 PM
Dec 2016

who were so concerned about the US losing sovereignty?

The ones who don't like treaties?

My, my they sure disappeared fast when Donald J. Trump came to town!

napi21

(45,806 posts)
17. I beleive the professionals in our CIA & FBI are well trained to deal with all kinds of people.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:52 PM
Dec 2016

I'm sure this is their first time experiencing this particular attitude from one of OUR Presidents, but they'll deal with in the best way possible. Maybe that mean ignoring him, and working directly with the Congressional Security committees, and let them deal with the Con. All I can say is, it's a very stupid move to get the entire intelligence community against you. Stuff like that usually comes back to bite you in the ass BAD!

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
19. Yeah, like the Security Committee will really care.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:01 PM
Dec 2016

If it's majority republican everything will go down the shithole.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
21. It's not ALL. The committees all consist of one more of the majority party than the minority. I'm
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:25 PM
Dec 2016

thinking a total of 11 or 13. Dianne Feinstein is one of them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. Didn't Old Joe Stalin have something to say about votes?
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:01 PM
Dec 2016
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

Joseph Stalin




Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/josephstal109571.html

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
25. Any Surprise That He Would Treat It Like Any Other News...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:48 AM
Dec 2016

...that he didn't like?

* Hillary Clinton attack ad.
* Gentle Republican criticism.
* Classified intelligence briefing.

Regardless of source, Trump is going to predictably act the same way.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
29. trumpfuhrer administration
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 11:11 AM
Dec 2016

and putins russia vs china for world economic and landmass hegemony. Upcoming possibility/probability? Seeing as how putin helped trumpfuhrer gain here.

stollen

(419 posts)
31. Our entire US foreign policy is based on 9/ll
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

and Trump's refusing security briefings and slamming the Intel messenger is mind numbing. I've told everyone in Congress who will listen. This is absolutely unacceptable, particularly after all the fear mongering the GOP did after 9/11 and has since.

I do not accept this.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
32. They need to investigate that server in Trump Tower
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:11 PM
Dec 2016

The one that has been in regular communication with Russia. Trump's denial only makes sense if he is in on the espionage with Russia.

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