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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:51 AM Dec 2016

C.I.A. Judgment on Russia Built on Swell of Evidence

Source: MSN/NY Times

WASHINGTON — American spy and law enforcement agencies were united in the belief, in the weeks before the presidential election, that the Russian government had deployed computer hackers to sow chaos during the campaign. But they had conflicting views about the specific goals of the subterfuge.

Last week, Central Intelligence Agency officials presented lawmakers with a stunning new judgment that upended the debate: Russia, they said, had intervened with the primary aim of helping make Donald J. Trump president.

The C.I.A.’s conclusion does not appear to be the product of specific new intelligence obtained since the election, several American officials, including some who had read the agency’s briefing, said on Sunday. Rather, it was an analysis of what many believe is overwhelming circumstantial evidence — evidence that others feel does not support firm judgments — that the Russians put a thumb on the scale for Mr. Trump, and got their desired outcome.

It is unclear why the C.I.A. did not produce this formal assessment before the election, although several officials said that parts of it had been made available to President Obama in the presidential daily briefing in the weeks before the vote. But the conclusion that Moscow ran an operation to help install the next president is one of the most consequential analyses by American spy agencies in years.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cia-judgment-on-russia-built-on-swell-of-evidence/ar-AAlrchP



My take is that it is like the US operation to kill Osama Bin Ladin. Leading up to it, information was kept very well secret. Of course, once it happened, people rushed to take credit for the success of the operation even if it may have compromised intelligence sources. Human nature is universal.
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C.I.A. Judgment on Russia Built on Swell of Evidence (Original Post) TomCADem Dec 2016 OP
uh....yeah....what the fuck.... dhill926 Dec 2016 #1
Media sowing confusion and doubt to help give Trump a lifeline. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #2
The CIA will have to use Twitter for Trumps briefings. RainCaster Dec 2016 #3
Plus the tweet must conclude with a 1-word final assessment like BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #4
But lead story in most media outlets is Trump's flat out denials wishstar Dec 2016 #5
Can the head of the CIA DK504 Dec 2016 #6
Would it be a Hatch Act violation if he did? n/t hughee99 Dec 2016 #7
No, but... zipplewrath Dec 2016 #9
Much good information here. janx Dec 2016 #8
If they know who did it, why the hell B2G Dec 2016 #10
treason and an enemy of the state would suffice bdamomma Dec 2016 #11

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
1. uh....yeah....what the fuck....
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 01:14 AM
Dec 2016

"But the conclusion that Moscow ran an operation to help install the next president is one of the most consequential analyses by American spy agencies in years."

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
5. But lead story in most media outlets is Trump's flat out denials
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:10 PM
Dec 2016

So nearly half of Americans will not believe any of these reports from CIA since POS says this is not credible and just baseless ridiculous speculation, just as he said during campaign and debate with Hillary.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
6. Can the head of the CIA
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:15 PM
Dec 2016

have a press conference detailing all the evidence assembled on the illegality of the Russian gov't. and the Hatch Act violations.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. No, but...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dec 2016

The CIA has plenty-o-friends over at congress. And they have an interest in getting the Russians out of American elections, because members of congress run for office too. Furthermore, they have VERY little interest in a 4 years of "drip drip" of news about various cabinet members and White House staffers connection to Putin. Sooner or later they'll either interfere with Trump on many of these issues, or they'll find reasons not to confirm his appointments. Trump thinks he knows how to make deals, but the congress does too.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
10. If they know who did it, why the hell
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 02:25 PM
Dec 2016

aren't they arresting or moving to extradite them???

WTF.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
11. treason and an enemy of the state would suffice
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:11 PM
Dec 2016

this quote below is like "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the United States"

Last week, Central Intelligence Agency officials presented lawmakers with a stunning new judgment that upended the debate: Russia, they said, had intervened with the primary aim of helping make Donald J. Trump president.


it can't be any clearer than that, trump is a treasonous bastard.

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