Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

[RoccoR2]

Source: Reuters

The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday.

While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-intelligence-idUSKBN14204E?il=0

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

1. So some random dude at ODNI?

Does he get their coffee or something?

[riderinthestorm]

2. Things that make you go hmm nt

[RoccoR2]

3. Madness

Spy vs Spy

[LaydeeBug]

4. They decline to be named, because LET IT SINK. nt

[onecaliberal]

5. They were in fact "caught" in the act.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028359709

[RoccoR2]

7. Not saying that is false

but they are a private firm not an USA spy agency

OTOH -- may believe a pvt firm over a spy

[Nevernose]

10. "The ODNI does not dispute the CIA's finds"

The only thing in dispute, apparently, is Russia's motivation.

And if this were a criminal case, there's more than enough circumstantial evidence to prove intent.

Did Putin personally autograph Russia's actions? Send a thank you note to Trump? Of course not.

Did Russia hack both the RNC and the DNC, yet only release the DNC emails? Yes. Even the FBI (apparently) believes that, as do all the other US intelligence companies, as well as American private security companies.

Do Trump and Company have close personal and financial ties to the Russian government going back decades? Yes.

Did Trump immediately begin nominating entirely pro-Russian cabinet members? Yes.

Have Trump and his people defended Russia -- even threatened to break up NATO -- at every step of the way? Yes.

For any law enforcement agency or prosecutor in the world, this case wouldn't even be close. The only true unknown is the extent of TrumpCo's involvement.

[still_one]

12. Interesting double speak isn't it?

""ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow.""

[C Moon]

6. Good. Now this is something the corporate media can focus on.

[Sunlei]

8. all experts will have different assessments of their 'work results', but they will all agree 'WHO'

[stillcool]

9. do we keep score?

Office of the Director of National Intelligence
Independent agencies
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
United States Department of Defense
Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
National Security Agency (NSA)
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
Twenty-Fifth Air Force (25 AF)
Army Military Intelligence (MI)
Marine Corps Intelligence Activity (MCIA)
Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI)
United States Department of Energy
Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence (OICI)
United States Department of Homeland Security
Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A)
Coast Guard Intelligence (CGI)
United States Department of Justice
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Drug Enforcement Administration, Office of National Security Intelligence (DEA/ONSI)
United States Department of State
Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR)
United States Department of the Treasury
Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI)

[Calista241]

11. Honestly, I don't think they did it to elect Trump.

I think they did it to weaken Clinton, and they would have continued with the drip drip campaign for years into her Presidency. She would have been effectively handicapped from day 1.

I think they were as shocked as the rest of us when Drumph won.

[joshcryer]

17. Oh nah, Trump aligns with the ultra-nationalism that defines modern Russia.

An oligarch that rules through racial tension.

[malthaussen]

14. They'll have to source it better to convince me.

Three unnamed "officials" in one agency presuming to speak for the "overseers of the U.S. intelligence community" might play in Podunk, but not with me. Furthermore, it doesn't matter if their intent was to "help" Mr Trump or not. The act of interfering with our election is quite sufficient to invalidate it, in a rational world.

-- Mal

[Nitram]

16. They may be right. All the evidence so far seems to be circumstantial.

I wonder if the CIA really has a smoking gun such as an email or a recorded phone conversation with someone actually saying they are trying to help Trump win.

[lagomorph777]

18. Excuse me? Which RNC e-mails appeared on Wikileaks?

None. Seeing the obvious motivation isn't exactly rocket science.

[lagomorph777]

20. Whether to hurt Clinton or help Trump,

The difference is minor. Whoever did it (and the actual experts are unanimous it was Russia), it was obvious that they meant to sway the election. And they probably did. And it's not just the damned e-mails.

[lagomorph777]

22. HRC pissed off Putin

So yeah, probably so.

But why the former hard-line anti-Russian party is now opening to door to Putin's invasion, is a mystery. Has Putin paid them ALL?

[rockfordfile]

23. Russia supported Trump and the Republicans

That's clear. You can't get anymore un-American than TrumpTrash.