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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,420 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:55 PM Dec 2016

Gov. McCrory begins to sign bills that limit power of Gov.-elect Cooper, Democrats

Source: Ralegh News and Observer

Gov. McCrory begins to sign bills that limit power of Gov.-elect Cooper, Democrats

By Craig Jarvis

cjarvis@newsobserver.com

Craig Jarvis: 919-829-4576, @CraigJ_NandO
http://twitter.com/CraigJ_NandO

RALEIGH State legislators wrapped up their work Friday on a pair of controversial bills that would deprive the incoming governor* of a substantial part of his power to make appointments, and reshuffle the regulation of lobbyists, ethics complaints and elections. Gov. Pat McCrory signed one of the bills a short time later.

Less than an hour into the Houses morning session, about 100 protesters began chanting and were cleared from the gallery. They continued to shout outside the House chamber, and law enforcement officers had to clear the area and make arrests. The protest was a smaller but highly vocal repeat of Thursdays protests,** and briefly brought the House deliberations to halt. Protests and more arrests moved the Senate later in the day. ... As the day wore on, several emotional House Republicans lashed out at the protesters, while Democrats defended them.

The House approved Senate Bill 4*** on a vote of 67-23 and sent it to the Senate for final approval. The Senate signed off on it in the early afternoon and sent it to the governor, who signed it.

McCrory has not said whether he will sign another controversial bill, House Bill 17,**** which requires confirmation hearings for the new governors Cabinet officials and prevents him from appointing members of the UNC system schools boards of trustees.

* http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article121222618.html

** http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article121071733.html

*** http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E4/Bills/Senate/PDF/S4v4.pdf

**** http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E4/Bills/House/PDF/H17v4.pdf

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article121302433.html



Hat tip, Joe.My.God: NORTH CAROLINA: Pat McCrory Signs Bill To Screw Over Incoming Democratic Governor-Elect Roy Cooper
http://www.joemygod.com/2016/12/16/north-carolina-pat-mccrory-signs-bill-screw-incoming-democratic-governor-elect-roy-cooper/

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Gov. McCrory begins to sign bills that limit power of Gov.-elect Cooper, Democrats (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 OP
Wretched slugs - all of them rumdude Dec 2016 #1
They're so desperate, since they know they are going to lose a ton of seats next year in the more Tiggeroshii Dec 2016 #2
Republican playbook pg 2: scorched Earth policy when they lose. ffr Dec 2016 #3
BWT, how did a democrat win NC and HRC didn't? ffr Dec 2016 #4
Not at all. Republicans here voted against McCrory because he has mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #5
Also McCrony being Duke Energy... mwooldri Dec 2016 #10
In N.Mecklenburg it was GOP voters who turned against him for the I77 toll lane deal. blm Dec 2016 #35
Sore losers, mean and hateful people bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #6
They're not even pretending anymore NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #7
they are brazenly seizing power and lying about nearly everything wordpix Dec 2016 #29
Does this just show that Republicans will do whatever is necessary to come out on top lancelyons Dec 2016 #8
That's how republicans transition. LisaL Dec 2016 #9
I think O has had it with Trump (as I detect from his latest news conf) but wordpix Dec 2016 #31
Tear them up? moondust Dec 2016 #11
Kicked.. coco22 Dec 2016 #12
piece of shit scumbag JI7 Dec 2016 #13
Boycott... Wuddles440 Dec 2016 #14
I was thinking of moving to NC, but MCrory & R legislators have changed my mind wordpix Dec 2016 #34
It's not over yet Quackers Dec 2016 #38
I was just thing the same thing zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #44
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #15
No Quackers Dec 2016 #16
Agreed. complain jane Dec 2016 #18
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #22
Get a clue, Wuddles. That poster wanted to firebomb a capital building. Quackers Dec 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #25
Member since 2011 with 56 post. Quackers Dec 2016 #28
hold on, hold on. A previous post that was removed is prob the one w/ firebomb wordpix Dec 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Wuddles440 Dec 2016 #23
Why not? MFM008 Dec 2016 #27
The post I replied to is now deleted. Quackers Dec 2016 #33
I support you there, Quackers jumptheshadow Dec 2016 #47
see my post #36 wordpix Dec 2016 #39
Tweet from Roy Cooper Cha Dec 2016 #17
Sounds like he's going to fight it. Adsos Letter Dec 2016 #26
Oh yeah. And, from what I understand.. Cha Dec 2016 #40
I hope he shoves that legislation straight up their... Adsos Letter Dec 2016 #48
Thanks for this mahatmakanejeeves. littlemissmartypants Dec 2016 #19
Thank you. We're going to have to look out for each other now and document everything. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #21
We're going to make NC's special, court-ordered election a focus for DU in 2017. blm Dec 2016 #32
I agree but also, we need to improve our networking efforts wordpix Dec 2016 #42
Hear ya. blm Dec 2016 #46
Thanks for Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda, can't wait to read it wordpix Dec 2016 #41
Damn are these Republicans vile. johnnyrocket Dec 2016 #20
He said he will SUE MFM008 Dec 2016 #30
Can any of these bills be challenged in court? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #37
Yes.... machoneman Dec 2016 #45
Well what do we expect? Republicans will destroy the country if we let them. Rex Dec 2016 #43
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
2. They're so desperate, since they know they are going to lose a ton of seats next year in the more
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:07 PM
Dec 2016

fairly redistricted special elections.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
3. Republican playbook pg 2: scorched Earth policy when they lose.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:18 PM
Dec 2016

Still less destructive than having them "IN" office.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
5. Not at all. Republicans here voted against McCrory because he has
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:44 PM
Dec 2016

been roundly criticized for pushing HB 2 which has resulted in huge losses to the state economy from
concerts and sports events being pulled to boycott the discriminatory bill, as well as businesses that changed
their plans to relocate here.

People voted for him 4 years ago thinking he was a moderate Republican--which he pretty much was as Mayor
of Charlotte--and he turned out to be Art Pope's (think Koch Bros) tool and a nasty little bigot.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
10. Also McCrony being Duke Energy...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 08:02 PM
Dec 2016

... and Duke Energy had some coal ash pit troubles. Plus Roy Cooper was seen to be more conservative than he really is.

blm

(113,047 posts)
35. In N.Mecklenburg it was GOP voters who turned against him for the I77 toll lane deal.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

They provided the margin of victory.

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
6. Sore losers, mean and hateful people
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:55 PM
Dec 2016

Democrats have generally accepted legacy policy from previous administrations

and that is distinct from wanton reversal and vengence

Sick sick sick sick sick

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
8. Does this just show that Republicans will do whatever is necessary to come out on top
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 07:44 PM
Dec 2016

Should democrats also do whatever is necessary to come out on top?

We keep bitching about the scrupulous things that Republicans do when they win and take over the government and get there way while us democrats keep losing for being the nice guy.


In the end, will the nice intelligent sophisticated democrat win or will the ruthless power hungry demagogue win?

I am starting to have serious questions about our ability to effect this country if we cant do it from a position of POWER.

Trump says all there crappy things and wins
McCrory loses the Governorship and then passes a rule limiting the democrat.

Next up, the us house and senate just pass rules that say you cant run for election in house or senate unless you are republican.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
31. I think O has had it with Trump (as I detect from his latest news conf) but
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:53 PM
Dec 2016

what can he do? He has to leave unless Congress asks him to stay on due to the emergency.

But that will never happen. So Pres. O has to pack up and leave, that's the bottom line.

Wuddles440

(1,121 posts)
14. Boycott...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:32 PM
Dec 2016

conducting any commerce in the districts in North Carolina represented by these vermin. No visiting or vacationing - NOTHING! Make them hurt financially. Maybe enough of their constituents will then realize that these shit heads are not good for business and vote them out of office (despite the gerrymandered districts).

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
34. I was thinking of moving to NC, but MCrory & R legislators have changed my mind
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:55 PM
Dec 2016

seriously, no kidding

 

zippythepinhead

(374 posts)
44. I was just thing the same thing
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:28 PM
Dec 2016

I live in NC but I am all in for a boycott for NC by everybody.

Also, mass demonstrations and civil disobedience against the banana republic of NC.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Response to Quackers (Reply #16)

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
24. Get a clue, Wuddles. That poster wanted to firebomb a capital building.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
Dec 2016

I don't give two shits if they're a real Democrat or a troll, I will speak out against that type of stupidity and I'll be damned if I'll let them represent me on DU.

Response to Quackers (Reply #24)

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
28. Member since 2011 with 56 post.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:49 PM
Dec 2016

3 of those post attacking me for calling out a poster that advocated firebombing the NC State Capital. Please go back to what ever sock drawer they got your account from.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
36. hold on, hold on. A previous post that was removed is prob the one w/ firebomb
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

suggestion. Not the guy you're accusing of being Steve Bannon.

Response to Quackers (Reply #16)

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
27. Why not?
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:48 PM
Dec 2016

What's wrong with a boycott?
Until democrats grow a pair we will lose, get cheated on, shut out.
A boycott is an effective tool.
There's not going to be a get along attitude with the maggot. Stiffen that spine.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
33. The post I replied to is now deleted.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:54 PM
Dec 2016

They advocated firebombing the NC State Capital building. That's what my response was about.

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
47. I support you there, Quackers
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 07:16 PM
Dec 2016

Violence in any form is not the solution. And advocating violence is against the terms of service on Democratic Underground, the last time I read the TOS.

Cha

(297,164 posts)
17. Tweet from Roy Cooper
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 04:32 AM
Dec 2016
Roy Cooper Verified account 
?@RoyCooperNC
Once more, the courts will have to clean up the mess the legislature made, but it won't stop us from moving North Carolina forward.
Retweets 1211 Likes 2257

https://twitter.com/RoyCooperNC/status/809885520960557056

Cha

(297,164 posts)
40. Oh yeah. And, from what I understand..
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:59 PM
Dec 2016

a liberal just got elected to the NC state supreme court so it's 4 to 3 nowl

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
19. Thanks for this mahatmakanejeeves.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 09:56 AM
Dec 2016

I truly hate One Term Pat, doesn't take long to find that out. If you search my posts on him you'll see. I must say the only jobs he created in NC have been for his attorney cronies. His penchant for idiocy exceeds expectations.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,420 posts)
21. Thank you. We're going to have to look out for each other now and document everything.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 02:54 PM
Dec 2016

It's the cowboy way.





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blm

(113,047 posts)
32. We're going to make NC's special, court-ordered election a focus for DU in 2017.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:53 PM
Dec 2016

This has to be the Dem's battleground. The GOP targeted Massachusetts to take Kennedy's seat and rode that victory into the 2010 election.

It will really need to be an allhandsondeck effort.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
42. I agree but also, we need to improve our networking efforts
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:07 PM
Dec 2016

door knocking and phone calling helps but not much. People don't answer a phone if they don't recognize the number and are hounded with calls by salesmen and non-profits . Finding people at home is hit and miss when door knocking, with a lot of "miss."

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
41. Thanks for Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda, can't wait to read it
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:03 PM
Dec 2016

I put full name in title so anyone interested will open the link,.

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
30. He said he will SUE
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:50 PM
Dec 2016

He needs to. Everyone involved.
They will try this crap in every repuke run state next.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
37. Can any of these bills be challenged in court?
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

I'm thinking there are some separation of powers issues here.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
45. Yes....
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:44 PM
Dec 2016

They can be challenged on a number of fronts. One of the best methinks is a lawsuit based on the premise that had a Republican won the election, none of these bills would have been enacted. Another prong of a multi-issue lawsuit would be the fact that these bills uniformly limit the governor's power AFTER the electorate voted McCrory out and installed a Democrat in the position. In brief, the the intent of the voters was superseded after they voted.

No NC expert here nor a lawyer but it seems the new governor has many options to attempt to defeat these bills. Sadly, as another pointed out, even if the Republicans lose here they have set a template for other red states to follow if they don't like the results of a fair election. Heck, they could take this idiocy down to any level of state or local government.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. Well what do we expect? Republicans will destroy the country if we let them.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:08 PM
Dec 2016

Seems NC has a viral case of them, I feel for the state.

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