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EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:55 PM Dec 2016

GOP Congressman Urges Self-Rationing Of Health Care After Obamacare Repeal

Source: Huffington Post

Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-Mich.) says there’s “definitely” going to be changes in health care delivery after Republicans repeal the Affordable Care Act, and people are going to need to take more responsibility for the cost of their treatment.

He gave a personal example of how do this: When his 10-year-old son recently fell on the driveway one evening and injured his arm, Huizenga waited until the next day to take him to the doctor because it cost less than bringing him to the emergency room that night.

“We weren’t sure what was going on,” the GOP lawmaker said in a Monday interview with a local news outlet, MLive.com. “So I splinted it up, and we wrapped it up, and the decision was, okay, do we go to the E.R.? We thought it was a sprain, but weren’t sure. Took every precaution and decided to go in the next morning.”

It turned out his son’s arm was broken.

At a time when Republicans are broadcasting plans to repeal the Affordable Care Act next year, it’s an unsettling proposition that people with an undiagnosed and potentially serious ailment or broken body part should choose to get treated later, or less often, to save money.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-huizenga-health-care-reform_us_585b0513e4b0d9a5945716c2



What an asshole.
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GOP Congressman Urges Self-Rationing Of Health Care After Obamacare Repeal (Original Post) EricMaundry Dec 2016 OP
I posted about this the other day. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #1
Call Social Services. Seriously. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #12
The kid with a broken arm is not taken to the emrgency room because... money? tinrobot Dec 2016 #2
He is a GOP REP. He has the money and insurance! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #25
Broken arms are just theories. Can't really know if there is a problem or not. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #32
Scientists disagree on what causes broken arms, or whether to treat them jberryhill Dec 2016 #51
Arms have been breaking for millions of years, can't possibly know if it's man-made or Thor_MN Dec 2016 #52
Plus, if your arm heals at a different angle, you'll be able to reach things in new ways jberryhill Dec 2016 #53
Follow the money!! Thor_MN Dec 2016 #56
Good point - I never broke a bone until after I was vaccinated! jberryhill Dec 2016 #70
Wow, Are You Ever The Optimist! ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #71
depends on who the heart belongs to decrepittex Dec 2016 #67
Couldn't agree more! hatrack Dec 2016 #73
I doubt money was the issue here. decrepittex Dec 2016 #66
GOP Huizenga says to let your children suffer to save money. Now if he fell and was in pain would he The Wielding Truth Dec 2016 #3
Hey, the fascists got away with it in Flint, MI elmac Dec 2016 #13
What is still happening in Flint is God awful. It will not be tolerated when it happens to the The Wielding Truth Dec 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Eugene Dec 2016 #4
Child abuse davekriss Dec 2016 #5
+1. What an idiot. 1) You don;t take risks with children...what is there was some unseen injury... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #46
The entire republican party is evil and heartless Matthew28 Dec 2016 #6
Another gop pos Marthe48 Dec 2016 #7
Huizenga will fight to repeal Congressional healthcare benefits, won't he? keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #8
This is really sick. n/t Flatpicker Dec 2016 #9
This asshole should have his fingers cut off. pangaia Dec 2016 #10
Wow, this guy is cruel. blue neen Dec 2016 #11
By the way elmac Dec 2016 #14
Wow, Mr. Gumby. My brain hurts! Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #15
Child abuse. area51 Dec 2016 #16
"Took every precaution"? bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #17
Well' if he didnt know it was broken i doubt it was shattered to where the bone would dionysus Dec 2016 #75
Letting his child suffer is cruel. I dispise him. The next day he may still have to go The Wielding Truth Dec 2016 #19
Great way to promote infections and internal bleeding DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #20
That is child abuse you asshole Huizenga. still_one Dec 2016 #21
You're going to be surprised at the number RegexReader Dec 2016 #22
This guy's a jackass. I guess he doesn't know how much a broken bone hurts! If for no napi21 Dec 2016 #23
The medical data on this is pretty clear jimlup Dec 2016 #24
And this man has insurance for his family, no? TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #26
This must be the Universal Health Care Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #27
I posted this a couple of days back, with some minor modification........when this broke.. turbinetree Dec 2016 #28
and someone said that the repukes healthcare plan was, when Obamacare first came out, was... Javaman Dec 2016 #29
Self Rationing? BigDemVoter123 Dec 2016 #30
Remember: Trump says it will all be replaced with "something amazing".... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #36
Glad This Story Is Receiving NATIONAL ATTENTION Now....as the local story on this... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #31
Abuse of a child. Akacia Dec 2016 #33
Why do I think this whole story is a lie? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #34
Did you watch the video? dhol82 Dec 2016 #54
Watch him back off on his claim when someone mentions child abuse. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #64
Somebody needs to educate Billy. moondust Dec 2016 #35
If he'd do this to his own son Generic Other Dec 2016 #37
Or, you can reset the broken bone yourself, and not spend one red cent. C Moon Dec 2016 #38
Or don't even reset it. Just let it heal naturally! Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #49
Yeah, there must be a YouTube video teaching you how to do that! dhol82 Dec 2016 #55
:D C Moon Dec 2016 #65
I know of a couple in CA who got into trouble with Child Protective Services RandySF Dec 2016 #39
Trump supporters apparently don't get sick. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #40
So, I guess the night I passed out in the garage we should have waited a couple of days Stonepounder Dec 2016 #41
I grew up poor. I can tell you about "self rationing" ..... Hekate Dec 2016 #42
Someone should report him for child abuse. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #43
Thank you GOPuke Fuckface for proving how little you care about humanity. Rex Dec 2016 #44
Republican Health Care Plan SamKnause Dec 2016 #45
Asshole belongs in jail, not in Congress. NT duffyduff Dec 2016 #47
I don't believe for a second that his son ever got hurt tom_kelly Dec 2016 #48
And people get pissed when you call these maggots sociopaths. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2016 #50
And he has insurance too! hibbing Dec 2016 #57
That's my fucking congress critter!!!! longship Dec 2016 #58
Child abuse. muntrv Dec 2016 #59
Perhaps if post-secondary education wasn't so expensive in this country ... LonePirate Dec 2016 #60
How the fuck can I ration more than kacekwl Dec 2016 #61
That is child abuse Emilybemily Dec 2016 #62
IOW "GO DIE!" hint, hint n/t librechik Dec 2016 #63
Since Huizenga is already incredibly wealthy Blue_Tires Dec 2016 #68
This is one reason why diabetics like me are terrified jzodda Dec 2016 #69
Fuck this guy. 47of74 Dec 2016 #72
Self-rationing? Can we make our own death panels? N/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #74

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,850 posts)
12. Call Social Services. Seriously.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:26 PM
Dec 2016

I remember the earlier post. He has plenty of health insurance. This is child abuse.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
2. The kid with a broken arm is not taken to the emrgency room because... money?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:02 PM
Dec 2016

That's everything wrong with our system right there.

Single payer makes that sort of thing a non-issue.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
32. Broken arms are just theories. Can't really know if there is a problem or not.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:48 AM
Dec 2016

I hope dipshit handles a heart attack in a similar fashion.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
52. Arms have been breaking for millions of years, can't possibly know if it's man-made or
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:51 AM
Dec 2016

just a natural cycle.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. Plus, if your arm heals at a different angle, you'll be able to reach things in new ways
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:54 AM
Dec 2016

Need to scratch your back? No problem with a deformed scapula!

Bones are just a nuisance that get in the way of doing lots of things.

The Big Orthopedic lobby makes billions of dollars off of this "broken bones" scam.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
56. Follow the money!!
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:58 AM
Dec 2016

Bones heal naturally if you don't eat processed foods and avoid vaccines.

decrepittex

(53 posts)
67. depends on who the heart belongs to
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

That's how Republican lawmakers want you to handle a heart attack, I'm sure their response would be quite different, but we can hope the dipshits use a "wait and make sure" approach.

hatrack

(64,887 posts)
73. Couldn't agree more!
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 07:01 PM
Dec 2016

We need more talk shows where people present both sides of "Broken Bone Theory".

decrepittex

(53 posts)
66. I doubt money was the issue here.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:39 PM
Dec 2016

This politician has the best insurance available or he could have just paid the bill. It's not like politicians are destitute. He is just an asshole and it wasn't his arm. Republicans have the same attitude about being sick as my Army platoon Sgt. when someone asked to go on sick call. "You're sick?.... then die and prove it." That broken arm would have cost a parent about twelve dollars in the Netherlands where they have single payer.

The Wielding Truth

(11,433 posts)
3. GOP Huizenga says to let your children suffer to save money. Now if he fell and was in pain would he
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:03 PM
Dec 2016

wait?

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
13. Hey, the fascists got away with it in Flint, MI
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:27 PM
Dec 2016

so they figure hell, why not do it state wide.

The Wielding Truth

(11,433 posts)
18. What is still happening in Flint is God awful. It will not be tolerated when it happens to the
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:55 PM
Dec 2016

spoiled Trumpsters. If they can see it.

Response to EricMaundry (Original post)

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
46. +1. What an idiot. 1) You don;t take risks with children...what is there was some unseen injury...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:45 AM
Dec 2016

..to his head, internal bleeding. And 2) This guy had health insurance to take his kid to the doctor. With no Obamcare, ppl will be uninsured, and no coverage to take their kids to the doctor.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
7. Another gop pos
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:11 PM
Dec 2016

My niece broke her arm about the same age, a green stick break. Her parents took her for immediate treatment. Her broken arm was put in a sling. A few days after she broke it, she tripped against the step railing and jolted her arm. I have never seen her cry like that before or since.

Anybody that would hold treatment on an injured child to save a few bucks is a bastard. Anyone that would use a story like that is a prick bastard.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
8. Huizenga will fight to repeal Congressional healthcare benefits, won't he?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:17 PM
Dec 2016

Huizenga will fight to repeal Congressional healthcare benefits, won't he?

Let's see if he practices what he preaches.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. This asshole should have his fingers cut off.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:21 PM
Dec 2016

Then wait and see how he takes care of himself....

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
14. By the way
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:30 PM
Dec 2016

this goes against all doctors, Hospitals and even Health insurers policies who know that waiting costs more money down the road.

area51

(12,691 posts)
16. Child abuse.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:46 PM
Dec 2016

And it dovetails with what GW Bush said that "we use too much health services." Fuck the libertarian republican party.

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
17. "Took every precaution"?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:50 PM
Dec 2016

Sounds like negligence to me.

What if the bone were shattered and lacerated nerves or muscle internally, or
poked through the skin?

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
75. Well' if he didnt know it was broken i doubt it was shattered to where the bone would
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 02:05 AM
Dec 2016

Be sticking through. But thats not thevpoint i guess. What he did was child abuse. Scumbag.

The Wielding Truth

(11,433 posts)
19. Letting his child suffer is cruel. I dispise him. The next day he may still have to go
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:57 PM
Dec 2016

to emergency for an x-ray. What is wrong with him?

RegexReader

(428 posts)
22. You're going to be surprised at the number
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:10 AM
Dec 2016

of people that haven't applied for insurance through the ACA.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
23. This guy's a jackass. I guess he doesn't know how much a broken bone hurts! If for no
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:18 AM
Dec 2016

other reason, he should have taken his son to the ER so they could relieve his pain!

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
24. The medical data on this is pretty clear
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:23 AM
Dec 2016

you don't fucking wait on a broken arm.

Fucking idiot.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
26. And this man has insurance for his family, no?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:25 AM
Dec 2016

And makes $174K per year. So he made his child suffer overnight to save on a fucking copay?

I guess he doesn't know how dangerous a fat embolism is.

I guess he doesn't know if a broken bone isn't set quickly and properly, it has to be rebroken under anesthesia? Sounds expensive? It is!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
27. This must be the Universal Health Care
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:27 AM
Dec 2016

every Republican is talking about. Yah you are going to wait till morning with a kid that has a bone sticking out of his arm or leg. Let's get F--n real. More of the Stupid.

turbinetree

(27,546 posts)
28. I posted this a couple of days back, with some minor modification........when this broke..
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:30 AM
Dec 2016

I have some questions there idiot , I was going to call you brainiyak, but you just don't quite make it above the level of S*** coming out of you mouth.

Have you ever gone into ****ing cardic arrest, while you are having a heart attack, there dip****?

Do you think, there doctor whatever you name is, since you think you are one.

Do you think, I should have waited until the next ****ing day, just to make sure that I was in ****ing pain ass****, so that I could save a ****ing buck?

While I was withering on the floor like a dead fish gasping for air and screaming about the pain and wanting it to stop jerk****. And then when the medics got there I had died twice once in the house and once on the way to the hospital, and then waking up and not knowing what the hell happened, because dip*** you don't know, your life is a complete blank.

Do you know dip**** what you see when you go into a cardiac arrest, well let me give you a clue, you don't see angels, you don't see a ****ing light at the end of a tunnel you are ****ing dead.

So why don't you come over to my house and will have a discussion about saving a buck!!!!


Let me tell you how much it cost in just the hospital bill for the three days I was there, over $65,000, let me repeat that, over $65,000

And then we can discuss why your being paid from the tough of the taxpayers to be a complete ass****


So F* ass**** and the ****ing horse you road in on, you are total embarrassment to what constitutes as compassion in your fascists party, and its not having any ----------------------none, zilch, nada,

And has soon a human beings start calling you what you are, an a ****ng that better off they will be and this country has as whole.

And just think you were talking about your own kid, doesn't that constitute child abuse, because if I were to do that in any shape or form, the hospital would have someone from somewhere calling me up.

You do realize that your kid could have developed gangrene are you that ignorant




Javaman

(65,711 posts)
29. and someone said that the repukes healthcare plan was, when Obamacare first came out, was...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:39 AM
Dec 2016

"don't get sick".

And there it is.

BigDemVoter123

(43 posts)
30. Self Rationing?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:45 AM
Dec 2016

FUCK! They won't have to self ration! The insurance companies will do ALL the rationing for us. They'll be denying coverage, cancelling coverage, changing coverage, demanding HUGE co-pays. . . It won't take ANYTHING to be denied coverage. An appendectomy when you were 12 (You are 38 now)- "REFUSED!"

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
36. Remember: Trump says it will all be replaced with "something amazing"....
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:55 AM
Dec 2016

Or was it "fantastic"?

Some superlative.

Then there's this:

dhol82

(9,650 posts)
54. Did you watch the video?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:56 AM
Dec 2016

Sorry, no fake news here.
Man feels virtuous for him and his son.
We have no information about what his son felt.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
35. Somebody needs to educate Billy.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:54 AM
Dec 2016

Countries that have universal health care have ways of discouraging people from running to the doctor every time they get the sniffles.

Maybe Billy should be charged with child neglect for failing to promptly seek medical attention for his son when indicated.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
49. Or don't even reset it. Just let it heal naturally!
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dec 2016

Save the cost of bandages and plaster of Paris. That's how our Founding Fathers did it. If it was good enough for them, it's good enough for us.

Republicans really do have this healthcare thing figured out!

RandySF

(84,263 posts)
39. I know of a couple in CA who got into trouble with Child Protective Services
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:01 AM
Dec 2016

Because they waited to get their kids' leg checked out.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
41. So, I guess the night I passed out in the garage we should have waited a couple of days
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:31 AM
Dec 2016

to see if I lived?

(Note: the faint was caused a Atrial Fibrillation, but in the course of checking to see what was wrong, the doctors found 3 blocked coronary arteries and a hanging clot, colloquially referred to as a 'widow-maker'.) I arrived at the ER at about 11:00 pm on a Saturday night and was undergoing open heart surgery at 6:30 am Monday morning.

Yeah, we should have self-rationed.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
42. I grew up poor. I can tell you about "self rationing" .....
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:31 AM
Dec 2016

When I found myself divorced with 2 preschoolers I went out of my way to get a job with health care benefits. The job was not well paid (secretary) but by God I took the kids to the doctor when they needed it.

My parents did the best they could in the years they were raising us 4 kids, but my brother had untreated asthma, my sister got one strep throat after another, I broke a toe and my overwhelmed mother just barked at me to straighten it out myself and tape it, we had a staph infection that ping-ponged around the house for a year before my mother finally defeated it with bleach, boiling water, and a product called Perma-Chem which is probably illegal now. (As an adult I realized that a couple of visits to the doctor and some shots of penicillin could have stopped that infection cycle in its tracks.)

Self-rationing my rosy Irish ass.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
44. Thank you GOPuke Fuckface for proving how little you care about humanity.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:46 AM
Dec 2016

We can expect 4 years of a hard fucking.

tom_kelly

(1,051 posts)
48. I don't believe for a second that his son ever got hurt
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:37 AM
Dec 2016

and wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have a son. A bunch of evil liars they are.

longship

(40,416 posts)
58. That's my fucking congress critter!!!!
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:11 AM
Dec 2016

Expressed my outrage when I read this. Won't do any good, but at least his office knows.

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
60. Perhaps if post-secondary education wasn't so expensive in this country ...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:12 AM
Dec 2016

Then the supply of health care professionals in this country would be large enough to eliminate rationing or reduce costs.

kacekwl

(9,147 posts)
61. How the fuck can I ration more than
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:24 AM
Dec 2016

Not going to the doctor , dentist because I can't even afford the copay. I had to go to a gastro doc for severe abdomen pain and still hounded daily for the thousands charged for a 10 min. Exam and a 5 min procedure. That was 2 years ago.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
68. Since Huizenga is already incredibly wealthy
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:28 PM
Dec 2016

I'll just say he's a cheap fucking asshole...

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
69. This is one reason why diabetics like me are terrified
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:33 PM
Dec 2016

I cant self ration even if i wanted to.

they are literally playing with my life and im disgusted

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
72. Fuck this guy.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:57 PM
Dec 2016

Fuck him. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Double fuck him, in fact.

I ain't fucking waiting until morning if it's serious.

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