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[MannyGoldstein]

1. No shit?

More Third Way triangulation and banker-coddling coming right up, sir!

And Social Security... We have to slash it, to save it...

[n2doc]

2. This is how the democrats reward people who stab them in the back

No wonder the party is a mess. I can't imagine the repubs allowing a liberal republican near their platform

Guess we will be seeing little cory in a spotlight speech slot soon , won't we? The Corprocrats will try their best to cram him down our throats now that he has shown them such allegiance.

[Faygo Kid]

3. +1

[FailureToCommunicate]

12. Et tu Booker?

[Angry Dragon]

4. a mistake

[Third Doctor]

5. After he stabbed

The President in the back I would not want him at the convention period if I could help it.

[Lionessa]

6. I like to see the full 15 on the list before judging.

Perhaps a bit silly, but since Obama has helped both directly and by not going after hedge-funds and their shenanigans, and seems he just tried to slip through the TPP, perhaps he's more representative of Obama the President's plan than some of us want to believe.

I have to wonder. Y'know he started his CHANGE by installing the status quo, he invited that hateful pastor from CA to do the inaugural prayer, we forget sometimes that the Campaigner and the President are two different things. The platform is for the President and his Party, not just for the election.

[Ken Burch]

8. If Booker is on it, we can assume

that nobody who ever marched for any sort of social justice will be there.

We don't NEED a platform drafted by insiders. Insiders don't give a damn about the people.

[Lionessa]

19. You might Ass-u-me, but I shall not.

Good luck with that.

I am clearly not a rah rah cheerleader for the Dem Party's nor Obama's apparent pledge to be more Republican, evenso I try not to assume, and not all of Cory Booker is bad or bought and paid for, from what I've seen in interviews and the like.

However, I will remain alert and skeptical, just not as certain as you seem to be.

[Ken Burch]

22. It's based on the precedent of the Cabinet appoinments

which gave Obama an inner circle totally controlled by corporate lackeys, while leaving labor, the Rainbow, the poor, and activists totally out in the cold.

(and no, the assistant secretary appointments of a handful of progressives don't make up for that...all assistant cabinet secretaries are powerless, irrelevant and totally ignored).

Obama needs to fire the party up to win...why is he lowering himself to triangulation when he already knows that can't work?

[Lionessa]

24. Clearly that's my fear, but Barney Frank is on that committee, and like I said, I'd like to see the

whole list. I hope to see some balance, maybe even (gasp) a progressive majority, but expect not to.

[Ken Burch]

26. Barney's the token vaguely prog.

There won't even be a Hilda Solis equivalent.

[Lionessa]

27. Unless you've found the list, you don't know that.

If you've found the list, please share.

[Ken Burch]

29. If Booker is on, there CAN'T be room

for anyone like Feingold, or Jim Hightower, or anybody who ever stood with the poor. You can't have corporate toadies and progressives on the same platform committee.

And the thing is, the party has no need for anyone like Booker...he represents nobody, has no successes in his position, and has no real ideas on any issues at all. Defending Bain is the same thing as wanting the rich to dominate the world.

[michel75]

44. Barney's the token vaguely prog.

thanks for sharing some information about Hilda Solis equivalent..


amira group

[Lionessa]

35. Geepers, today must be my learn about folks' day, I've never seen more than half those names.

Okay, off I go.

[Ken Burch]

37. I'm glad Barbara Lee is there, but let's face it

She'll get outvoted 14-1 on everything on Obama's orders. And it won't gain us any votes anywhere in the fall when she is.

We'll get another 2004-style platform with this group...a pile of mush that no one will ever remember.

In fact...everytime something right-wing(or "moderate", which is the same thing)gets found on the platform, we're going to hear "but BARBARA LEE was on the committee".

(a statement that is about as meaningful as arguing that the 1968 Vietnam plank wasn't a betrayal of the antiwar primary majority because WAYNE MORSE was on the stage in Chicago when it was approved.)

[Myrina]

47. Bingo!

n/t

[Ken Burch]

7. Cory Booker? The apologist for Bain Fucking Capital?????

OK...this isn't even TWELVE-dimensional chess anymore.

Booker, IIRC, is also pretty much anti-labor.

Why would Obama ever want to boost this sellout?

[grahamhgreen]

18. Uh, when they show you who they are - believe them - Randi Rhodes

[BeyondGeography]

9. Whatever keeps him away from the media is fine by me

[Doctor_J]

10. Cory will be drafting the "corporations are people" plank

Seriesly, isn't this kind of dumb, given Bain's conspicuous legal troubles?

[boomerbust]

11. no.1 - corey booker

n0.2 - harold ford jr.
no.3 ed rendell

[Ken Burch]

28. Why doesn't he just put Geithner, Summers and Rubin on the committee as well?

How can anybody think our platform won't be a total corporate schiessburger now?

And the stupid thing is, being "pro-corporate" CAN'T gain us any votes. The "independents" are as sick of the corporate bullshit as any Occupier these days.

[Arkana]

13. Jesus.

Let's hope "tossing banksters' salads" doesn't make it into the official party platform.

[Autumn]

14. " Cory Booker" I hope someone can talk me into giving a shit.

Zell Miller not available?

[Ken Burch]

30. Maybe the prez thinks this will get Artur Davis to come back.

[myrna minx]

15. *Sigh* So he's rewarded handsomely for undermining the President's message? n/t

[Lionessa]

20. True but let's not forget Obama is undermining his own message with TPP,

so that's why I say that I fear that Cory Booker, exactly as he is, is exactly what Obama wants directing the platform.

[Ken Burch]

38. It wouldn't surprise me if it later turned out

that Obama ORDERED Booker and Biden to defend Bain. He just can't ever leave a clear stand alone.

This is Kerry-style campaigning at its worst.

[grahamhgreen]

16. How do we boot him off the committee?

[Ken Burch]

23. We can't. Obama doesn't give a shit about us.

He's all we've got at this point, but he's getting way too arrogant about that.

[tularetom]

17. What could possibly go wrong?

I guess Joe Lieberman turned them down.

[Lionessa]

21. Ouch! ROFL.

[Teamster Jeff]

25. Maybe Dems and the GOP should save money and combine their conventions n/t

[RC]

32. Correct. The Democrats are not that much to the Left of those RW nutz hanging over

the Right side cliff.

We need another way to differentiate Left from Right..., errr, the good guys from the bad. (D) and (R) do not mean much any more.
Electing those running as Democrats is not good enough to save our country. Too many are turning out to be sleeper tea-party members.

[woo me with science]

51. When enough people get their heads out of their asses and acknowledge the truth,

change will be possible.

Deliberate partisan denial is what enables the one percent to get away with looting this country. They use the parties to ensure that we will never be unified against what they are doing to us.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=146626

[freshwest]

33. UNLIKE

[Citizen Worker]

39. Tony Coehlo? This is the guy that turned the democrats hard right when he said the D's should

pursue the same campaign funders as the right. This is outrageous! And what happened to the long held tradition of the platform committee being chosen by the party? Sorry, but this has DLC written all over it.

[MrSlayer]

40. First plank: Tax cuts for the rich!

Second plank: cut "entitlements"!

Third plank: school vouchers!

Fourth plank: union busting!


And so on.

[blkmusclmachine]

41. Catfood Commission Part III

DLC, Third Way crapola from the top down. Where are the REAL Democrats, or aren't there any left in DC anymore?? We need a new Party. This one's gone to seed.


Did you hear about Operation Northwoods?

[woo me with science]

42. Every day. There's a new one every day.

One more step for the neoDemocratic Party in neoAmerica.

Every damned day.

[KatChatter]

43. Might as well have asked the GOP to write the platform

The ENEMY is within and needs to be removed ASAP or the American People will lose.

[Earth_First]

45. Not a single constituent on the list...

Sorta like voting on a Tuesday, this process has become horribly unfavorable to representative democracy.

[Freddie Stubbs]

46. Barney Frank is a constituent of John Kerry

[Odin2005]

48. The DLC is a fucking cancer.

[annm4peace]

49. another reason to leave the party

we really do need another party. and don't whine to me about "so you would vote for GOP"..

[lunatica]

50. How depressing

If he'd just shut up that day we'd still be thinking he was a great pick.

But at least we know the truth about Cory Booker from his own mouth for what it's worth.

[TheDonkey]

52. DNC blunder. They should have appointed him chairman of the coat check

Hopefully he won't lose his appetite if Democrats push for transparency and fairness in the platform, the poor dear.

[former9thward]

53. What is the difference? It is the platform.

The minute the convention is over it is put in a file drawer someplace and forgotten about. The president runs on his own views and policies. He does not run on the platform. No one even reads it. There used to be big platform fights at conventions in the eras of civil rights legislation and the Vietnam War. But no more. The convention bosses now just want conventions where everyone is smiling and there are no "events" for the media to pick up on.

[woo me with science]

54. kick