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Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:49 AM

 

Fights break out at malls across United States

Source: CNN.com

(CNN)Disturbances that included gunfire, massive brawls and food-court fights played out at more than a dozen malls across the country in what proved to be a chaotic day after Christmas.

The disturbances, some of which were captured on social media, prevented some shoppers from clearing off clearance racks and returning Christmas gifts as they intended.
The mall incidents, which ranged from minor melees to mass evacuations, occurred nationwide from Colorado to Tennessee, Texas to New Jersey. Here's what happened at six of those malls.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/us/mall-disturbances-after-christmas/



Although not mentioned in the article, Destiny USA - the mall in Syracuse NY, also had a huge fight broken up: http://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/fight-at-destiny-usa-prompts-large-police-response/631922716

Was something posted on social media that caused this?

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Cooley Hurd Dec 2016 OP
Achilleaze Dec 2016 #1
Abouttime Dec 2016 #8
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #14
Abouttime Dec 2016 #23
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #24
ailsagirl Dec 2016 #26
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #28
Igel Dec 2016 #32
ailsagirl Dec 2016 #33
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #34
ailsagirl Dec 2016 #35
niyad Dec 2016 #36
Historic NY Dec 2016 #2
Sunlei Dec 2016 #3
TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #4
Vinca Dec 2016 #5
bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #12
zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #6
lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #7
snooper2 Dec 2016 #16
CreekDog Dec 2016 #40
Turbineguy Dec 2016 #9
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2016 #10
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #15
Iggo Dec 2016 #17
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #18
Iggo Dec 2016 #19
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #20
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2016 #22
yagotme Dec 2016 #31
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2016 #41
jpak Dec 2016 #11
TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #13
Henry Krinkle Dec 2016 #21
OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #42
EL34x4 Dec 2016 #44
OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #45
awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #25
Initech Dec 2016 #27
Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2016 #29
tenorly Dec 2016 #30
lunasun Dec 2016 #37
YOHABLO Dec 2016 #38
Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #39
OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #43

Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:56 AM

1. and lo, in those days the spirit of the new-bought Trumplican kiNg (RNC) was upon the land

and the people wept.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:20 AM

8. Seriously..this is the new normal

 

Entitled tRump voters now have the right to become violent if they somehow feel slighted in the least way.
I drive a 2011 Prius, I have Obama 2012, Bernie and Hillary stickers and several others such as 'coexist' on my bumper. I get harassed every day by what I assume are tRump voters in their jacked-up smoke belching diesel pickups. I can feel their hatred and sense of violence and rage directed at me and progressives in general. I fear there is a civil war brewing. Never in my life did I feel like I needed a gun to protect myself but now I'm actually considering getting a concealed carry permit.

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:19 AM

14. It was mostly teenagers

loosely organized on social media according to BBC 4 so I wouldn't call them regular shoppers.

At least 8 malls were involved.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:46 PM

23. There's anger out there inspired by tRump

 

Anger directed at tRump and his supporters, you can't campaign on hate and not create more hate directed right back at you.

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:58 PM

24. This crap has been going on long before Trump

Although I'm assuming it's going to get worse.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:54 PM

26. But since he approves of it, I assume (as you said) it's definitely going to get worse

"sigh"

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:51 PM

28. The orange man "approves" of teen gangs

(African American) running through malls?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:05 PM

32. Yup.

Trump-supporting African-American underage voters.

The video didn't show entirely AA populations, but it was far from the Aryan-looking population assumed in some posts.

But hey, whatever's necessary to blame the usual suspects and make those believed innocent out to be truly innocent.

We good, they bad; we moral, they immoral; we smart, they stupid; we like facts and honesty, they like lies and falsehood. And anybody who says otherwise is one of them, and to be ignored.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:36 PM

33. What I meant is...

since he was "elected," there have been an enormous number of violent incidents throughout the country.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/this-post-election-violence-is-not-normal-and-it-is-un-american/

It could be I misunderstood the context of the particular type of violence described in the post and mistakenly associated it with his post-"election" violence.

I was at work when I saw the post and neglected to read through the article. (That'll teach me!)

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #33)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:42 PM

34. We're all guilty of skimming

at one time or another.

I try not to, because I usually make a fool of myself.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:44 PM

35. I shouldn't access DU at work but...

it was a slow-ish day and I needed my fix!!

Lesson learned

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:46 PM

36. can you show some evidence that these were ANTI-trump people causing the problems?

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:08 AM

2. The real Christmas War.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:27 AM

3. don't worry the republican great white hope will call for calm, TWEET TWEET TWEEETTTT!!!

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:37 AM

4. Most these were kids. What does that mean?

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:51 AM

5. It means adults have set very poor examples for them.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:06 AM

12. It means our pop media culture

where everyone wants to be a rock/movie/cultural star
has bred a nation of narcissists who cannot distinguish
boundaries, decency, prim and proper behavior and their
leader is now elected

It's like a culture of borderline narcissists

expect more of the same

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:57 AM

6. Yeah man!

 

Get down! Whoopie.



















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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 08:47 AM

7. Hartford ct, as well. We passed it outside.

There must have been something connecting them all.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:29 AM

16. yeah a bunch of stupid assholes all connected via their smartphones

 

Millennials are going to bring so much fail to the workplace....

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:04 AM

40. Slurs against entire generations of people are not allowed here

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:20 AM

9. The New King will put a stop to this foolishness.

Time for a tweet threatening "Marshall Law"!

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:50 AM

10. This is neither new

nor news. Kids have been brawling in malls for as long as there have been malls and kids. Then, of course, there are the Walmart Black Friday brawls which feature adults. Same shit, different year.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:24 AM

15. Organizing brawls on social media

is definitely new.

Oh, well...there's always Amazon.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:00 PM

17. Yep. We used to use the old-fashioned telephone.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:02 PM

18. LOL But shoppers can now avoid the brawls

by shopping online.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:43 PM

19. If we can get the gangs to have their rumbles online, then we've got it made!

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Response to Iggo (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:50 PM

20. LOL But shoppers can now avoid the brawls

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:26 PM

22. Before social media

there was the cell phone; before the cell phone, landline phones and before those there was word of mouth. But even if you only want to look at the social media phenom...Facebook was founded in 2004, My Space in 2003... brawls are not new and have nothing to do with the outcome of the recent election.

And yeah, I do more and more shopping on Amazon, it is safer.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 08:46 PM

31. In Chicago, I believe

it is called "wilding". Group gets together on social media, certain place, certain time, all hell breaks loose for 10-15 minutes (police response time), and everybody disappears. Some, if not mostly, gang related. Going on for several years now, I believe.

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Response to yagotme (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:51 AM

41. And not just in Chicago.

Several years ago the authorities blocked transmissions from cell phone towers serving around a BART station in San Francisco because of expected trouble.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:53 AM

11. Fight Club

yup

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:18 AM

13. It was gangs loosely organized on social media

according to BBC 4. These weren't people fighting over sale items.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:51 PM

21. This is why we can't have nice things!

 

There was a time when malls were rich and vibrant with youthful abandon...



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Response to Henry Krinkle (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:27 PM

42. Was this really a thing in Canada?

I've never heard of Robin Sparkles and I'm so intrigued. I especially like how she rhymed "a-boat."

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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #44)

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:42 PM

45. Thanks.

I've watched some of that show, but never would have pictured that character as a Debbie Gibson type.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:39 PM

25. "Was something posted on social media that caused this?"

 

No, just good old American consumerism. Shit like this is always going on during big shopping times.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:22 PM

27. We are circling the drain.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:45 PM

29. I THINK it probably has to do with US cultural tradition of binging on sugar non-stop for

2 wks straight. If my family of origin is any indication, the sugar consumption was especially massive this year, and the crankiness displayed by family members was especially vile.

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Response to Kashkakat v.2.0 (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:47 PM

30. Ding*ding*ding

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:15 PM

37. Teenage boredom winter break but there was increasing violence at these brawls yesterday with shots

gun shots being fired at more then one mall. That is not the same as a food fight http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/us/mall-fights-brawls.html?_r=0

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:46 AM

38. I think it's a story being exaggerated by MSM. There's a lull in the "news" or something.

 

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 02:39 AM

39. Googled it with date restrictions. Previous two years of after-Christmas mall riots/brawls.

I stopped with eight examples from each year, so I surely missed others.

The articles often mentioned possible social media influences, just like this year.

2015:
St. Matthews Mall, Louisville KY
Sherwood Mall, Stockton CA
Weberstown Mall, Stockton CA
Patrick Henry Mall, Newport VA
Deptford Center Mall, Deptford NJ
Orange Park Mall, Orange Park FL
Roosevelt Field Mall, Long Island NY
North Riverside Park Mall, North Riverside IL

2014:
Monroeville Mall, Pittsburgh PA
Arden Fair Mall, Sacramento CA
Beachwood Place Mall, Cleveland OH
Chicago Ridge Mall, Chicago IL
Kings Plaza Mall, Brooklyn NY
Wolfchase Galleria Shopping Mall, Memphis TN
Independence Center, Independence MO
Opry Mills Mall, Nashville TN

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:29 PM

43. The "media" can make things "trends" or not . . .

I bet you could go into other days in history in which fights broke out at the same # of malls, but since it wasn't reported as a "rash" then no one thought it was. The same with media-created "crime waves," etc.

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