Israel warned New Zealand that UN resolution was 'declaration of war'

[canetoad]

Source: The Age

Wellington: Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu personally phoned New Zealand's Minister of Foreign Affairs Murray McCully to warn him a UN resolution co-sponsored by the country was a "declaration of war," according to a report.

The UN Security Council resolution called for Israel to stop building settlements on occupied Palestinian land. It went as far as declaring the settlements "illegal".

It was picked up and sponsored by New Zealand and three other countries after US President-elect Donald Trump reportedly pressured Egypt into dropping it.

It was passed on Saturday after the US abstained instead of vetoing, as they historically have done on votes concerning Israel.

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If NZ is at war then the ANZUS treaty means Australia and the US are also at war. FFS.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/israel-warned-new-zealand-that-un-resolution-was-declaration-of-war-report-20161227-gtiogk.html

[elleng]

1. FFS again today!

Swell, trump, putin and netanyahu.

[guillaumeb]

2. What will Israel do?

Stop shipping Sabra hummus?

Given that the settlements are illegal, this is the small boy stating that the Emperor has no clothing. The entire world knows that the settlements are illegal.

[Blue Shoes]

29. They'll grovel and flatter Trump

He'll give them anything they want.

[cstanleytech]

3. So are you threatening to nuke them Benny?

If not how about you take your declaration bs, roll it up tight and shove it up your ass? Wait, forget that last bit because the shit you been spewing you might get confused and try to swallow it.

[HoneyBadger]

6. Israel has banned the New Zealand ambassador to Israel from entering Israel

[cstanleytech]

11. I'm sure that has NZ shaking in their boots. NT

[Me.]

4. Honestly, If Israel Continues To Go On Like This

It will either be isolated or obliterated

[HassleCat]

5. They are accustomed to getting their own way.

Our role is to give them money and shut up. Maybe we're getting tired of that.

[Me.]

10. Way Tired

[basement demon]

25. And Pissed

The Israeli tail wagging the American dog needs to be cut off. No More Money!

[gopiscrap]

38. I agree with you

[gopiscrap]

39. Welcome to DU

[basement demon]

41. Thanks

[mountain grammy]

7. the settlements are illegal.

shame on Netanyahu, shame on Israel.

Good for the Security Council.

[NWCorona]

8. Has anyone ever been to New Zealand? It's a beautiful and welcoming country

[mountain grammy]

15. I have a good friend from there

she stayed here long enough for citizenship, but is returning to NZ. Wish I could go with her.

[Violet_Crumble]

19. Quite a few times. Apart from earthquakes it's perfect.

I'm half heartedly thinking of moving there when I retire. Now there's direct flights to Wellington from Canberra, it'd take less than three hours to get back here. And the weathers milder and the country's prettier and houses are cheaper and New Zealanders don't drive like angry arseholes.

[left-of-center2012]

20. "It's a beautiful and welcoming country"

It's where Lord of the Rings, etc was filmed.
Beautiful landscapes.

[Dustlawyer]

9. Bibi should have been such a dick to our President!!!

He sounds about as unbalanced as Trump.

[world wide wally]

12. The Israel, Russia, USA love triangle is going to be a volatile breakup

And we have a baby-man involved in it.

Dangerous world we've made for ourselves.

[RonniePudding]

32. When do you expect that to happen?

In 20 plus days we're going to have a Putin puppet and a Bibi devotee in the White House.

[world wide wally]

37. 30 days?

[RonniePudding]

40. Dream on

[Stonepounder]

13. Obama should recall our Israeli Ambassador since, technically we are now in a state of war

with Israel.

"If NZ is at war then the ANZUS treaty means Australia and the US are also at war."

[lancelyons]

14. Netanyahu is a big bully.

Netanyahu is a big bully. He is trying to bully his way on to others just like many republicans try to do. With threats, intimidation.

Just a few days ago he said the Obama administration orchestrated the entire thing, now they are saying NZ put it before the UN after Egypt dropped out.

I can believe Israelis continue to vote this man into office.

[madokie]

16. nuttiyahoo is a PUNK

[trueblue2007]

17. nuttiyahoo is an ass hull. i can't stand him,

[Violet_Crumble]

18. ANZUS stopped being a three-way treaty in the 80's

Back when NZ became a nuclear free zone, the US had a temper tantrum because they were no longer allowed to park their nuclear powered ships there. So since then ANZUS is a treaty between Australia and New Zealand, and between Australia and the US. Though because of the geographic closeness, an attack on New Zealand by someone like Nutty who was told by an Israeli backpacker that NZ is much greener and hillier and bigger than the West Bank and he decides NZ is the new ancestral homeland and starts bulldozing homes in Wellington, Australia would get involved if NZ invoked ANZUS, and because Australia would feel threatened that the same Israeli backpacker fell in love with Tasmania and mentioned that to Nutty, Australia would invoke ANZUS and the US would do something.

Do something is the catch with ANZUS. unlike NATO it doesn't have a standing force and the treaty is worded so that there's an obligation to consult and take action if a partner's security is threatened. There's a lot of disagreement about what action entails and it's up to the leader at the time to decide. It could be standing up and making a speech at the UN or diplomatic footsies with the offending country, but military action would be very unlikely.

FWIW, Nutty can have all the head explosions he wants at New Zealand. They wouldn't care. He's a little fish pretending to be a shark and this toddler style temper tantrum he's throwing will harm Israel before anyone else. What a certifiable wanker.

[Equinox Moon]

21. TY Violet

I appreciate your post. I for one, needed this information to understand the situation better.

I love NZ. I dream of NZ being my home. It was love at first sight when I learned of them becoming a nuclear free zone. They also, at some point, had thrown out all or most laws and rewrote them to support the environment. The geo-diversity is over the top amazing. I picked a town called Nelson on the South Island on in an ocean cove, to live. It is an artists' and liberals' town. I will keep on dreaming...

As far as Nit goes, this was a long overdue UN action. I am sure there are many in Israel and Palestine happy able the UN resolution.

[Turbineguy]

22. Bibi is suffering from a bad case of

trumpitis.

[Javaman]

23. aka Israel acts tough against a nation half a world away that posed zero threat to them.

whatever.

[KewlKat]

24. why is the orange excrement allowed to interfer with US foreign policy when he's not the president

of anything yet? The Con is overstepping the "president elect" protocol.....not that he cares.....BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PRESIDENT....so please Con man, back the f*ck off!

It was picked up and sponsored by New Zealand and three other countries after US President-elect Donald Trump reportedly pressured Egypt into dropping it.

[jpak]

26. Bite It Bibi

yup

[vkkv]

27. So far I see no comments from DUers who outwardedly support the actions of Israel.

[former9thward]

33. Maybe because the report is more fake news.

If you follow the link it goes to a website called "The Age" which referenced an Israeli newspaper which quotes unnamed "Western officials". In other words this a fourth hand fifth hand "report' or in other words BS. It seems everyone denounces fake news when it is on the other side but if it something that you would like to believe then it is embraced.

[vkkv]

34. What's REALLY embarrassing is suggesting someone is foolish then finding out that

they themselves are REALLY the fools.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11773841

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-settlements-declaration-of-war-new-zealand-murray-mccully-un-security-a7498331.html


https://yournz.org/2016/12/29/israel-backs-off/

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.761706

[former9thward]

35. Let's see ....

Link #1 unnamed Western diplomats told Isareli newspaper Haaretz.

Link #2 According to Haaretz, in a personal phone call Mr Netanyahu told New Zealand foreign minister Murray McCully

Link #3 Israeli publication Haaretz, citing unnamed western diplomats, described a “harsh” phone call between the pair.

“This is a scandalous decision. I’m asking that you not support it and not promote it,” Netanyahu reportedly told McCully.

Link #4 This link is a paywall so nothing can be seen...

In other words there are no direct quotes from anyone involved. Just "unnamed western officials".

If you want to believe fake news go for it. But not me.

[vkkv]

36. So... there's no denial of that phone call from Bibi.

And this::

McCully reportedly refused to back down, according to Haaretz, telling Netanyahu the resolution was consistent with New Zealand policy on the dispute.

McCully's office have confirmed to Fairfax Media that a phone call between the minister and Netanyahu took place just before the vote. They refused to publicly comment on the content of the conversation.

Israel's ambassador to New Zealand Itzhak Gerberg will meet with Netanyahu on Thursday to discuss whether further sanctions against New Zealand are appropriate. Israel's embassy said that "until further notice" no more sanctions would be imposed.

Earlier this week McCully publicly said that Israel shouldn't be surprised by New Zealand's position.


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You're enjoying all of the other "fake news" like a solid Trump supporter I'm sure.

[Aristus]

28. I give Israeli pilots full measure for bravery and skill.

But I can't quite see them bringing off a bombing run on a country half a world away.

New Zealanders seem to be friendly and easy-going. But declare war on them, and they will fuck your shit up!...

[MFM008]

30. Send in the cannibals....

Benji on a extended rant. Is he using tweeter to?

[Scurrilous]

31. Payback?

2004 Israel–New Zealand passport scandal

<snip>

"The 2004 Israel–New Zealand passport scandal was an incident of passport fraud in July 2004 that led New Zealand to take diplomatic sanctions against Israel. High-level contacts between the two countries were suspended after two Israeli citizens suspected of being Mossad agents, Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara, were caught trying to fraudulently acquire a New Zealand passport using the identity of a man with cerebral palsy. Prime Minister Helen Clark declared that New Zealand government viewed the acts carried out by Kelman and Cara as "not only utterly unacceptable but also a breach of New Zealand sovereignty and international law."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel%E2%80%93New_Zealand_passport_scandal