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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:02 PM Dec 2016

Kremlin spokesman vows retaliation against U.S. sanctions

Source: The Washington Post


By Washington Post Staff December 29 at 3:58 PM

The spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin said Moscow rejects accusations that it hacked U.S. political parties and the new sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on Thursday. The new measures include the sanctioning of agencies and individuals tied to the hacks and the removal of 35 Russian government officials from the United States.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

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Kremlin spokesman vows retaliation against U.S. sanctions (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP
Screw them!! They are getting what they deserve. redstateblues Dec 2016 #1
Just wish we knew what they really are getting. Hortensis Dec 2016 #16
This is beautiful. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #2
Not as awkward as progressives attacking Russia former9thward Dec 2016 #14
What can they do? elmac Dec 2016 #3
I think its time for US progressives elmac Dec 2016 #4
Every souvenir store on Alabama and North Florida beaches sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #9
They denied the doping of their athletes until murielm99 Dec 2016 #5
Blabadee blah blah MFM008 Dec 2016 #6
Better to just clean up your act. moondust Dec 2016 #7
Looks like some property in Maryland will be for rent soon HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #8
wow. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #10
Used to spy on the NSA and play tennis, fish and crab HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #12
No Stoli - Oh Noooooos! jpak Dec 2016 #11
Up yours, Ivan. paleotn Dec 2016 #13
Kids are going to be very happy with Russia....Guessing that ski trip to the Alps is extended HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #15

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Just wish we knew what they really are getting.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 09:13 PM
Dec 2016

The rather staid official sanctions that have been announced are not only NOT proportional to the damage Russia inflicted on our nation, but they wouldn't be any deterrent to Putin's continuing their info and cyber warfare to cause the U.S. to collapse into civil disarray.

Obama did warn us that he wouldn't be able to reveal all reprisals, and now we know he meant the really good ones.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. This is beautiful.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:12 PM
Dec 2016

Now Trump will have to run to their defense.

How awkward will that be - A conservative sticking up for Commies.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
14. Not as awkward as progressives attacking Russia
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:51 PM
Dec 2016

using the exact same words, phrases and images as the John Birchers did in the 50s and 60s.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
4. I think its time for US progressives
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:14 PM
Dec 2016

to demonstrate at the rusky embassy and any state run businesses.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
9. Every souvenir store on Alabama and North Florida beaches
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:29 PM
Dec 2016

They're all run by Russisns. I've always wondered why.

Let's go! Rates are cheap now anyway.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
5. They denied the doping of their athletes until
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:17 PM
Dec 2016

they were punished for it.

We need to keep pushing back about these hacks. Eventually, they will admit it. Bullies back down if they are confronted. This is a good reason to keep pushing back at trump, too.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
7. Better to just clean up your act.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:35 PM
Dec 2016

Dear Vlad,

Your athletes are sidelined from competition because you and your gang apparently helped them systematically cheat the anti-doping regime to gain an unfair advantage.

If you wanted Crimea that badly you could have negotiated to buy it from Kiev, maybe including some debt forgiveness. Instead you sent in your plainclothes thugs to occupy and steal it for free using the tacit threat of superior military force.

You're probably committing war crimes in Syria.

Now you're hacking other people's elections to try to gain an unfair advantage in world affairs.

Rather than lashing out at the rest of the world for holding you accountable for your bad behavior, maybe you should instead take a good, hard look in the mirror and see if you can't correct some of your persistent moral failings.

Regards,
The Moral Universe

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
8. Looks like some property in Maryland will be for rent soon
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:16 PM
Dec 2016

Property records show that the Russian government owns two parcels of land on Town Point Lane, about five miles west of Centreville, near where the Chester River meets the Corsica River. One parcel of 45.52 acres is valued at about $8 million for tax purposes, while the other is just shy of an acre and is valued at $537,200.

Both were transferred from the Soviet government to the Russian Federation in 1995, according to property records.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
12. Used to spy on the NSA and play tennis, fish and crab
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:42 PM
Dec 2016

The luxurious, 45-acre compound in Maryland is being shut down for alleged Russian espionage
By Adam Taylor December 29 at 5:28 PM

On Thursday afternoon, the Obama administration announced its long-awaited retaliation for what has been characterized as Russian interference in November's presidential election.

Among the wide-ranging measures, the White House announced that the State Department would be closing two Russian-owned compounds — one in Maryland and one in New York — that it says were used by Russian personnel for intelligence-related purposes. It is also declaring 35 Russians “persona non grata” for their alleged role in intelligence operations.

How hidden were these alleged spy compounds? At least in the case of Maryland, the answer is simple: not very.

The compound in Maryland sits on around 45 acres of land at Pioneer Point, a peninsula where the Corsica and Chester rivers merge — around a 90-minute drive from downtown Washington, by the Eastern Shore town of Centreville in Queen Anne's County.

These are the measures Obama is taking to punish Russia over election interference

The site was purchased by the Soviet government in 1972, and became something of a resort for Soviets living in the United States. It is the former estate of John J. Raskob, a former executive for DuPont and General Motors perhaps best known as the builder of the Empire State Building. The Soviets later added to the estate by making a deal with the State Department, which received two properties in Moscow in return.

At the time of its purchase, there was some resistance to the sale of the building to the Soviets, with the local newspaper reporting there were “fears of nuclear submarines surfacing in the Chester River to pick up American secrets and defectors.”

But by 1974, the New York Times reported that many locals had been won over, with the help of dinner parties and gifts of vodka and caviar. “As far as neighbors are concerned you couldn't ask for better,” Joe Handley, a former estate manager for Raskob, told The Washington Post in 1979. “They don't bother anybody.”


A reporter from the local Star Democrat newspaper in Easton visited the site in 1987 — in large part because of the long-standing rumors that it was being used for espionage. The resulting article, also published in The Post, noted the tall chain-link fence outside the compound and the video cameras monitoring the gate, but also the lime-green bungalows, swimming pools and numerous tennis courts.

“Tomorrow we have a game,” one tennis player identified as Yevgeny told The Post. “We have a tournament with the International Monetary Fund. They have a beautiful team. But this year, God knows who will win.”

After the turmoil of the collapse of the Soviet Union, Pioneer Point was bought by the Russian Federation — at the time, the Associated Press reported its value was $3 million. Local residents told the AP that they didn't have any problems with the Russians who visited the compound.

''I live down the road from them. We fish and crab with them. There's usually one that speaks English for the group,'' a woman named as Bonnie Delph told the AP.

The compound has been in the news very little since then. Nine years ago, the Russian ambassador to the United States, Yuri Ushakov, invited a reporter from Washington Life magazine to tour the grounds, explaining that for him it was like the traditional Russian summer house, or dacha, he was used to back home. “Because we have such a hectic life in Washington, we need a place to hide for a while,” his wife, Svetlana, was quoted as saying.

A man who answered the phone for a number listed online for the Pioneer Point compound said it was a wrong number, before adding that he did not speak English.


On Thursday, U.S. officials would not confirm the location of the New York compound being shut down — saying only that it was a 14-acre property on Long Island that had been purchased by the Soviet government in 1954. However, a number of Russian bloggers pointed towards the Killenworth estate on Dosoris Lane in Glen Cove, which acts as the country home for Moscow's delegation to the United Nations. The grand country home was once home to American philanthropist George Dupont Pratt
 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
15. Kids are going to be very happy with Russia....Guessing that ski trip to the Alps is extended
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 09:04 PM
Dec 2016

Wonder if it was cover for intelligence gathering........


Russia has closed an international day school in Moscow, the first sign of retaliation against new U.S. sanctions announced Thursday, CNN reports.

A U.S. official briefed on the matter told the network that Russian officials had issued an order closing the Anglo-American School of Moscow Thursday.


The K-12 school is chartered by the American, Canadian and British embassies in Moscow and has about 1,250 students from 60 countries, according to its website. Students are currently on winter break.

CNN also reported that a U.S. embassy vacation house in Serebryany Bor near Moscow will be closed as well.

Russian officials warned Thursday that there will be countermeasures in response to the sanctions.

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