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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:23 PM Dec 2016

Facebook temporarily bans author after he calls Trump fans 'nasty fascistic lot'

Source: The Guardian

Friday 30 December 2016 21.22 GMT

A journalist was temporarily banned from Facebook after a post in which he called Trump supporters “a nasty fascistic lot”, in the latest example of the social media platform’s censorship of journalists.

Facebook “reviewed and restored” the post by Kevin Sessums after being contacted by the Guardian and dropped the posting ban.

<snip>

Sessums, who is well known for his celebrity profiles for Vanity Fair and two best-selling memoirs, says that he shared a Facebook post from ABC political analyst Matthew Dowd that read: “In the last few hours I have been called by lovely ‘christian’ Trump fans: a jew, faggot, retard. To set record straight: divorced Catholic.”

Sessums added his own commentary, writing:

But as those who do hold Trump to the standards of any other person have found out on Twitter and other social media outlets these Trump followers are a nasty fascistic lot. Dowd is lucky he didn’t get death threats like Kurt Eichenwald. Or maybe he did and refuses to acknowledge them. If you voted for Trump and continue to support him and you think you are better than these bigoted virulent trolls, you’re not. Your silence enables them just as it did in the racist campaign that Trump and Bannon ran. In fact, hiding behind a civilized veneer in your support of fascism I consider more dangerous. We’re past describing you as collaborators at this point. That lets you off the hook. You’re Russo-American oligarchical theocratic fascists.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/30/facebook-temporary-ban-kevin-sessums-trump-supporters

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Facebook temporarily bans author after he calls Trump fans 'nasty fascistic lot' (Original Post) inanna Dec 2016 OP
oh here we go bdamomma Dec 2016 #1
So Facebook DK504 Dec 2016 #13
Once Again Confirming What I've been Advising Others Best_man23 Dec 2016 #2
I just follow, AND you are right they are a tool........ a kennedy Dec 2016 #5
That's sad, the Guardian usually researches how things work. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #3
Excellent explanation, thanks REP Dec 2016 #4
It may have also been reviewed by a person AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #6
This would be the same FaceBook that helped elect Trump with its allowed foreign propaganda? Okay TeamPooka Dec 2016 #7
That is correct lunasun Dec 2016 #20
I had an entire thread deleted today sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #8
It could be the news site that deleted the exchange. Moosepoop Dec 2016 #11
It wasn't even bad. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #16
What the hell is going on here? smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #9
Yeah... the truth really hurts sometimes Jacob Boehme Dec 2016 #10
I've been banned from FB for 30 days. Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #12
Need some hacker to take FB down triron Dec 2016 #15
Trump fans are a nasty fascistic lot. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2016 #14
On Facebook fake news is ok but the truth is not. milestogo Dec 2016 #17
If Facebook and other sites are to be successful at trying to remove the "Fake" news lancelyons Dec 2016 #18
Yes the silence and normalization will do more than the crazies for the acceptance of trump lunasun Dec 2016 #19
Personally I'm deactivating my Facebook account on January 19th kimbutgar Dec 2016 #21

bdamomma

(63,919 posts)
1. oh here we go
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:30 PM
Dec 2016

censorship and no dissent allowed when talking about cheeto. disgusting.

remember silence is consenting.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
13. So Facebook
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:26 PM
Dec 2016

can reveal in fake "news" stories, but someone tells the truth and they get banned. Someone needs to create a sane type of system that out does those a-holes at FB.

Best_man23

(4,907 posts)
2. Once Again Confirming What I've been Advising Others
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:48 PM
Dec 2016

GET. OFF. FACEBOOK. NOW!!

Facebook allowed itself to be used as a mal-information tool during the election and now it has the temerity to block journalists?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
3. That's sad, the Guardian usually researches how things work.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:53 PM
Dec 2016

He was 'censored' by an algorithm. When too many people hit 'block' or 'alert' on something, it gets flagged, just like a person getting too many hides here. It's automatic and mathematical, not a human being making a censorship decision.

Those calculated locks are reviewable and reversible by humans. They simply cannot possibly staff to manually censor anything on the scale that Facebook has for user traffic. It's impossible.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. It may have also been reviewed by a person
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 07:37 PM
Dec 2016

but it'd be someone who didn't have time to consider context, and only saw the incendiary keywords in the quote and gone 'yup' and approved the block. More likely it wasn't reviewed at all.

And they can flag his account to alter the thresholds of what would count as a future block, knowing that he responsibly deals in incendiary issues as a journalist.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
8. I had an entire thread deleted today
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:00 PM
Dec 2016

It was on a local news site and they were asking about performing for the inaugural. I said the basic I always say which is about how I believe he is a traitor and could never support a traitor in any way. Someone asked me for proof and I said ...just for starters... and posted the link about the server in Trump Tower communicating with Alfa Bank in Russia. Maybe 20 minutes later it was deleted completely along with everything the reps said to me. Maybe it will reappear later, but it's hone from my activity log completely. Another person I know has been having the same thing happen to her posts.

Moosepoop

(1,922 posts)
11. It could be the news site that deleted the exchange.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:53 PM
Dec 2016

They can delete any comments to their stories, which deletes them from the commenters' activity logs as well.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. What the hell is going on here?
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:09 PM
Dec 2016

He's not even the president yet and already this fascist crap is starting. WTF?

Jacob Boehme

(789 posts)
10. Yeah... the truth really hurts sometimes
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:35 PM
Dec 2016

That's why those that point it out are usually quickly shoved aside and excoriated for their pronouncements.

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
12. I've been banned from FB for 30 days.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 09:00 PM
Dec 2016

They have refused to tell me why other than I somehow violated FB rules. I was posting posts against Trump...lots of them, and wham! I'm banned, 21 days to go. And this is not the first time.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
18. If Facebook and other sites are to be successful at trying to remove the "Fake" news
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 11:37 PM
Dec 2016

If Facebook and other sites are to be successful at trying to remove the "Fake" news, you will see that at times, their decision might be in the wrong. Its part of the territory.


Im sure now after the fact, they regret doing this to Sessums.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
19. Yes the silence and normalization will do more than the crazies for the acceptance of trump
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:47 AM
Dec 2016

"If you voted for Trump and continue to support him and you think you are better than these bigoted virulent trolls, you’re not. Your silence enables them just as it did in the racist campaign that Trump and Bannon ran. In fact, hiding behind a civilized veneer in your support of fascism I consider more dangerous. "

kimbutgar

(21,186 posts)
21. Personally I'm deactivating my Facebook account on January 19th
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 01:08 PM
Dec 2016

It going to get real ugly after that on FB with emboldened trolls.

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