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Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:38 AM

A US Navy destroyer has fired warning shots at an Iranian Guard vessel in the Strait of Hormuz.

Source: SBS

A US Navy destroyer fired three warning shots at four of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps vessels on Sunday after they closed in at a high rate of speed in the Strait of Hormuz, two US defence officials told Reuters on Monday.

The officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the USS Mahan established radio communication with the boats but they did not respond to requests to slow down.

The Navy destroyer fired warning flares and a US Navy helicopter also dropped a smoke float.

Read more: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/09/us-destroyer-fires-warning-iran-vessel

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Reply A US Navy destroyer has fired warning shots at an Iranian Guard vessel in the Strait of Hormuz. (Original post)
NWCorona Jan 2017 OP
NCTraveler Jan 2017 #1
NWCorona Jan 2017 #2
NCTraveler Jan 2017 #4
mopinko Jan 2017 #5
NCTraveler Jan 2017 #6
NWCorona Jan 2017 #7
7962 Jan 2017 #21
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NCTraveler Jan 2017 #22
7962 Jan 2017 #23
PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #3
JTFrog Jan 2017 #8
MosheFeingold Jan 2017 #10
PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #12
MosheFeingold Jan 2017 #17
FairWinds Jan 2017 #9
pintobean Jan 2017 #11
FairWinds Jan 2017 #13
pintobean Jan 2017 #14
FairWinds Jan 2017 #15
LanternWaste Jan 2017 #16
Rex Jan 2017 #18
pintobean Jan 2017 #20
IronLionZion Jan 2017 #19
oneshooter Jan 2017 #24


Response to NCTraveler (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:49 AM

2. Thanks!

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:55 AM

4. Bigger story than something like this would normally be, in my opinion.

 

This has happened in the past but I believe the timing of this is in direct relation to the coming transition to Trump. I'm not saying that as positive or negative. Just that positions are being re-established. I am of the belief that Trump is going to be more of an isolationist militarily than most think. I think some of our adversaries are thinking the same thing.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:32 AM

5. the isolationism is why my own trumpkin loves him. still.

i have a trumpkin in my life. i do not think he has a racist bone in his body, but he is an angry white guy who would like to blame his lot in life on someone else.
his #1 thing is that he thinks he will get us OUT of wars. i hope he is right. i doubt it, but i can see him wondering if he is not really smart enough for a war. not out loud or anything. but a wee small voice in his head telling him that he might not win.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:47 AM

6. It is a complete assumption on my part.

 

Trump threw out a lot of militaristic bluster while campaigning that played well with certain groups. He more often than not didn't talk like an isolationist militarily. That said, nothing he did was for the sake of staking out true policy positions. It was just campaigning. The art of the deal if you will.

I am under the belief he will turn a blind eye to Russian land expansion, Iranian interference in the middle east, along with numerous other world issues. While I haven't been big on how we work with many world issues, and stepping back on certain things would be good, I feel what we are going to see that Trumps form of isolationism isn't what most want. I think numerous countries are currently setting the stage for Trump. These countries know that the way to Trumps heart is to make Trump look good.

Example: Russia has increased their bluster and over the last month or two their relationship with the WH has gotten even worse. In comes Trump, the bluster disappears, it then appears to be a victory for Trump all while he simply turns a blind eye to their expansion. It would really be a win for Putin and Trump on a political level while Trump is actually doing little to nothing. Trump is a scam artist. First and foremost is image.

I know a lot of people think Trump is going to be an aggressive President militarily. I believe just the opposite.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:48 AM

7. I totally agree with that.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 02:41 PM

21. I think its more because of recent actions by Iranians that WEREN'T met with a reaction

 

There have been a few incidents of them running up at Navy ships and getting no response. This is a change from that. Now the Iranians know they cant push it too far or they'll end up at the bottom.
Just my view of course

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Response to 7962 (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 02:46 PM

22. .

 

http://abc7ny.com/news/us-navy-fires-warning-shots-at-iranian-boat/1484814/

Actual shots four or so months ago. Not just flares and smoke.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #22)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 05:19 PM

23. Thanks!

 

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:54 AM

3. Oh great (not). The Orange idiot already said that "I'll blow them out of the water".

Will the Iranians pull this aggressive stunt January 21th? Btw...WHY is Iran doing this?

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:41 AM

8. Iran and Russia are impatiently awaiting Mr. Trump's handing over the keys to the kingdom. nt

 

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 12:23 PM

10. Why

Well, the Iranian leaders are bat shit crazy and downright evil. Those that are not crazy are oligarchs that make Putin and Trump look like pikers. They also have a giant ego that makes them very thin skinned (like the Orange Won).

The cabal in charge are part of the nutty "twelever" offshoot cult of Islam (think Westboro Baptists X 100 in charge of a country).

Their goal is to actually bring about Armageddon and bring their Iman out of the well (really, go Google it), so they poke the bear.

I am not sure what can be done except either containing them and hoping for an eventual revolution of sane people or going ahead and poking them back.

And, finally, as I often reminded my late wife -- don't try to think like crazy people. Or try to figure out their motives. They are not rational and trying to think like them will make you crazy.

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Response to MosheFeingold (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 12:54 PM

12. Good post, thanks. So, what we have here is one nasty recipe for disaster.

Isn't Iran, then, sending their sailors out on a potential suicide mission to engage a lethal response? You have Dominionists, as in Pentecostal Pence (Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin are also 'Rapture ready') and the Iran Armageddon cabal welcoming 'End Times'. shudder




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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 01:47 PM

17. Yep

The poke the bear and we do nothing, we look weak and it encourages others to do the same (e.g., the captured sailors).

We blow them up, and they have martyrs.

It's just an ugly situation with no great answers, except to be vague in our response (strong, but avoid martyrs).

And that just buys time. Eventually, we are going to have the fight they want.

It's a reminded what a shithole this world is.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 12:19 PM

9. As a veteran and member of Vets For Peace . .

 

I really do not trust the US Navy to accurately chart
the location of its own ships.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 12:50 PM

11. Being in the Army 46 years ago

 

doesn't make one an expert on today's US Navy.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 01:10 PM

13. Of course not, but it helps to read a lot . .

 

and be skeptical . .

Sometimes they go off course accidentally on purpose.

50 miles ?

http://fpif.org/u-s-boats-off-course-persian-gulf-actual-example-mythical-rogue-operation/

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 01:28 PM

14. You tried to use 'veteran' as a qualifier

 

and now, you're changing the accusation.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 01:37 PM

15. Vets For Peace and grad school taught me . .

 

to be skeptical of military pronouncements.

The lying liars who got us into Vietnam and kept us there for decades
richly deserve a healthy dose of skepticism.

Ever hear of the Tonkin Gulf?

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 01:46 PM

16. Ever heard of D-Day? Both being just as irrelevant to the here and now..

Ever heard of D-Day? Both being just as irrelevant to the here and now... and both being used simply to simply frame our narratives in a manner that strokes our biases in a more friendly form.

Either illustrate for us objective evidence that the current report in question is inaccurate at best, dishonest at worst; or simply continue with the unsupported allegations which say little and mean even less.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 01:54 PM

18. Now now...you are supposed to RAH RAH war and forget everything else.

 

Haven't you noticed? The hawks are out for blood, it is all they know.

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Response to Rex (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 02:09 PM

20. That's a hell of an accusation

 

leveled at fellow DUers. What I see, is people who think that threatening the lives of our sailors is unacceptable.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 02:07 PM

19. Many Trumpers believed Obama is soft on Iran

so Trump may have to do something to prove that he's a tough guy.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:53 PM

24. Since trump is still President-Elect

He had no say in this. Only the President can give the order.

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