Some U.S. House Republicans doubtful ahead of vote to begin Obamacare repeal

[Mister Midnight]

Source: Reuters

By Susan Cornwell | WASHINGTON

The U.S. House of Representatives moved toward a Friday vote to begin dismantling Obamacare despite anxiety among some Republicans they were rushing into a major step without knowing the budget consequences or having a firm idea of how they would replace the healthcare law.

The Republican-led Congress, under pressure from President-elect Donald Trump to act quickly, made the first move toward scrapping Obamacare on Thursday as the Senate voted to instruct key committees to draft legislation to repeal it.

The House plans to vote on the measure on Friday, Speaker Paul Ryan said. Some Republican lawmakers said on Thursday they were not sure how they would vote.

"I don't want to vote for this and say it’s the first step (toward repeal), and find out that there are some long-term budget consequences," said Republican Representative Mark Amodei.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obamacare-idUSKBN14W0MC

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If we can't stand up to these wusses, we might as well pack it all in!

[BumRushDaShow]

1. "find out that there are some long-term budget consequences"

There WILL be both immediate and "long-term budget consequences". The various iterations of it were scored each time by the CBO during the crafting of it, as well as a few times during creation of the final version (as it was tweaked), and that is why it qualified for the reconciliation process ("nuclear option&quot that was part of its original 2-part passage.

The GOP went so far out on the limb to demand "repeal" via their usual hyperbolic, self-serving rhetoric, that they are now hovering over open ground.

[Cosmocat]

7. I will be my dead horse again

You accurately portray their insane vitriol toward the ACA (THE REPUBLICAN GOD DAMNED VERSION OF HEALTH CARE REFORM) as "hyperbolic, self serving rhetoric."

But, the problem is the simple minded, dumb ass people of this country.

Yeah, its complicated to understand. But, for fucks sake, what is simple is that the our inane employer based system is the least cost effective system on the planet, and leaves more people uncovered than any other system on the the planet.

SOMETHING had to be done, and even though this was a half measure (being generous) it was a small step forward.

The fucking dolts in this country, every god damned time, just chew their cuds and let the screaming from right wingers influence their thinking, and never hold them fucking accountable when they inevitably drive us over a cliff.

First, all the histrionics reek of bullshit.

Second, if it is THAT bad, then there must be SOMETHING better that they would suggest.

It is simple common sense to expect that if these lunatics think it is that bad and have the last 6 years swearing to dismantle, that they have SOME reasonable plan to implement in place of it.

WTF goes, sure, you can tear it down then figure out how to build it back up?

The people of this country ...

[BumRushDaShow]

13. "and let the screaming from right wingers influence their thinking"

That's because they don't hear any other perspective. When the Fairness Doctrine went away under Raygun and the broadcast media were deregulated, the right bought bundles of radio and low power indie TV stations (many of these being the only news/opinion outlets to small town and rural America), and they filled those airwaves with nothing but their agenda - literally for the past 25 years or more.

Many on the left dismissed these stations assuming that "no one" listens to AM radio, etc. And so since the 1% RWers already owned the big stations, none of our agenda had a way to be put out there for consumption.... and now the chickens from that decision, have come home to roost. RWers are willing to continually operate these stations at a loss because the payoff would be so much bigger, and they were correct.

The only other thing left (at least at the moment) for communication is "social media", but as we have seen now with this past election season, Drumpf has effectively hijacked that too with his Twitter streams of consciousness. Otherwise we end up being left with one-off protests in order to get attention and whatever coverage that we do get from that is, fleeting at best.

[mitty14u2]

2. The Senate has officially taken the first step toward repealing ObamaCare

Sens. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) made their final pitches on the budget resolution after the vote.

Enzi called the resolution a "first step toward reducing the federal government's role that's prevented Americans from pursing affordable and accessible health care that meets their needs without emptying their wallets."

But Sanders fired back that Americans would die under the GOP repeal effort.

"Up to 30 million Americans will lose their healthcare with many thousands dying as a result," he said ahead of the final vote. "Because when you have no health insurance and you can't go to a doctor or a hospital, you die."

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/313857-live-coverage-the-senates-vote-a-rama

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Never vote without knowing what you're voting for

applies to the voting booth too

[Bengus81]

4. Doubtfull?? Bull$&it!!!

I don't care how "doubtful" they are at budget consequences or even a replacement plan,they'll go LOCK STEP with their ilk and Heir Trump and vote to repeal.

Show me ANY Republican in Congress who has the BALLS when the rubber hits the road to NOT vote to repeal ACA.

[Cosmocat]

8. Right

Mindless fucking pods ...

[watoos]

5. Budget consequences is right

I have said from the beginning that this repeal's main reason is more big tax breaks for the rich.
Obamacare is partly funded by a 3.8 and 0.9% taxes on people making 200k and up. Obamacare is basically paid for, revenue neutral, repealing it will add 350 billion dollars to the deficit because of these tax breaks.

[cstanleytech]

6. BS, they know exactly how they will vote and there is zero doubt they will repeal it all they are

doing is trying to protect themselves for the midterms.

[Cosmocat]

9. This version of the Republican party

is the most radical party in our history BY FAR.

These scumbags either have genuinely ginned themselves up to believe their own bullshit and/or as you noted, are MUCH more scared of a mid term challenge from an even crazier POS than a general election.

[cstanleytech]

10. They aren't afraid of someone crazier than themselves they are afraid of losing the majority

control they have because they rightly fear that should the Democrats regain it that they might institute Congressional investigations into things like the PACs and who's funding them and are they actively coordinating with the elected officials as well as things like ethics investigations that might reveal which of the hypocrites has a mistress among other things.

[Sunlei]

11. Republicans try to hide their collusions with russia & use of stolen 'goods' & shield their criminal

trumps spews a diarrhea of tweets to cut away obamacare fast! to try to shield himself from the experts spy report.

[sdfernando]

12. Those stupid rethulican a-holes!...

"I don't want to vote for this and say it’s the first step (toward repeal), and find out that there are some long-term budget consequences," said Republican Representative Mark Amodei.

The information is already out there! 1 TRILLION dollars per year over 10 years you stupid fuck! 10 TRILLION DOLLARS ADDED TO THE DEBT!!!!! KGBGOP - The party of fiscal responsibility MY ASS!!!!