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philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 10:59 AM Jan 2017

Protests Shut Down UC Davis Groups Event With Milo Yiannopoulos

Source: NBC News

An event at a California university featuring controversial so-called "pharma bro" Martin Shkreli and Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos was canceled Friday after a large number of protesters blocked entrance to the event, UC Davis said.

The speakers were invited by the student group Davis College Republicans. UC Davis said in a statement that after protesters blocked the venue "it was determined that it was no longer feasible to continue with the event safely."

"I am deeply disappointed with the events of this evening," Interim Chancellor Ralph J. Hexter said in a statement. "Our community is founded on principles of respect for all views, even those that we personally find repellent."

Shkreli, who came under sharp criticism for raising the price of a drug used to treat a life-threatening parasitic infection by 5,000 percent, told NBC affiliate KCRA that he was there to debate Yiannopoulos and said it was "reasonable" that the event was canceled. "I'm pro-feminism; I don't think these people know that," Shkreli said as he was surrounded by demonstrators. "I was going to tear Milo to shreds ... he doesn't understand feminism."

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/uc-davis-group-cancels-milo-yiannopoulos-event-after-protests-n706851



Great work by the Students at UC-Davis. No platform for hate speech!!!
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Protests Shut Down UC Davis Groups Event With Milo Yiannopoulos (Original Post) philosslayer Jan 2017 OP
Having Sham Shkreli be your opponent? Could Milo have gotten a better strawman? ck4829 Jan 2017 #1
College republicans have a very high tolerance for shame. Nation-wide. (nt) Paladin Jan 2017 #3
I prefer to know what the opposition is saying dhol82 Jan 2017 #2
this makes me very happy. I hate that guy OKNancy Jan 2017 #4
Fully agree philosslayer Jan 2017 #5
Ditto. Fuck 'em! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2017 #26
Speech should NEVER be shouted down Ghost OF Trotsky Jan 2017 #6
What? No way. Dr. Strange Jan 2017 #7
Now they will have an easier time doing so Ghost OF Trotsky Jan 2017 #9
How was a counter protest "censorship"? Since DU has rules and censorship abilities, uppityperson Jan 2017 #14
They couldn't have an easier time than they already do! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2017 #27
And I personally would call anyone who never censors themselves a liar or an idiot. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #42
I believe in Tallentyre's writing sarisataka Jan 2017 #10
+1000 Stonepounder Jan 2017 #11
Bullshit. n/t crim son Jan 2017 #20
So those shouting don't matter? Their speech is not as worthy? Rex Jan 2017 #43
there should be no room in our universities for hate speech UpInArms Jan 2017 #8
So you disagree with the SCOTUS decision in 1978 to allow the American Nazi Party Stonepounder Jan 2017 #12
not having hate speech on a taxpayer funded university UpInArms Jan 2017 #35
I totally agree. Hate speech has no place on a taxpayer funded forum. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #40
Well...that tiny fact might have been overlooked by a lot of people. Rex Jan 2017 #44
So label anything you don't like as "hate speech" and shut it down? Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #16
ITA. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2017 #28
Davis College Republicans Tactical Peek Jan 2017 #13
The College Republicans are idiots to attach their brand to such widely reviled tblue37 Jan 2017 #15
That sucks. I support free speech for everybody. Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #17
Pretty sure we are, also, a democracy. The students at the University spoke. The repugs could host Tikki Jan 2017 #19
I'm sure you'll be just as supportive of that "democracy" when pro-Trump people exercise it. Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #21
I bet there are Universities that would have NO protests having pharmacy guy and twitter guy... Tikki Jan 2017 #22
WTF were they thinking inviting the douchebag brigade? Initech Jan 2017 #18
They got exactly what they wanted, and UC Davis students handed it to them on a platter metalbot Jan 2017 #23
And they'll go to their laptops and whine about us needing safe spaces. Initech Jan 2017 #24
I am from this area of California and no one is crying over the cancellation...if anything.. Tikki Jan 2017 #25
I am too. This will boost Milo's book sales. Nice job you twits. Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #29
Doubt it.... Tikki Jan 2017 #30
Why would UC Davis even okay this. Charles Bukowski Jan 2017 #31
Its shocking he was even given a permit to speak. philosslayer Jan 2017 #32
Not really...if the repug group followed all procedure... Tikki Jan 2017 #33
Public colleges should not allow hate speech philosslayer Jan 2017 #34
You are correct, there should be something in their charter that defines what is acceptable.... Tikki Jan 2017 #36
I wonder how Trump will define Hate Speech? Yupster Jan 2017 #37
Thank you metalbot Jan 2017 #38
I think universities should not stop hate groups from speaking Yupster Jan 2017 #39
Community standards can help define what a hate group is philosslayer Jan 2017 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2017 #41
Good to see those that pay to keep the lights on protest such vile scum. Rex Jan 2017 #45

ck4829

(37,593 posts)
1. Having Sham Shkreli be your opponent? Could Milo have gotten a better strawman?
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jan 2017

Colleges should be places of learning and expanding your mind and the minds of others... By turning it into a shrine of cognitive biases and distortions, Hexter and the Davis College Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.

 

Ghost OF Trotsky

(61 posts)
6. Speech should NEVER be shouted down
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jan 2017

The best intentioned censor is worse than the vilest incitements of the most evil agitator.

Ignore. Stage a counter protest, but never forget that what actions we take can be used against us if not condemned by all and punished but the state.

This does much more harm than good to the progressive cause.

Dr. Strange

(26,058 posts)
7. What? No way.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017

Trump supporters would never do anything like this to us!

We've got nothing to worry about.

 

Ghost OF Trotsky

(61 posts)
9. Now they will have an easier time doing so
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 11:58 AM
Jan 2017

Everyone on the left should condemn these students. I would personally throw ANYONE censoring anything other than the name of a crime victim or genuinely top secret information away for a long, long time. All censorship is bad.

uppityperson

(116,011 posts)
14. How was a counter protest "censorship"? Since DU has rules and censorship abilities,
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jan 2017

will you throw it away for a long long time?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. And I personally would call anyone who never censors themselves a liar or an idiot.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jan 2017

"I would personally throw ANYONE censoring anything..."
And I personally would call anyone who never censors themselves a liar or an anti-social idiot.

"All censorship is bad..."
That is as absurd an unsupported allegation as is "all speech is good" Absolutism, while wonderful for bumper-stickers and super hero movies, is both unworkable and impracticable in the adult world.

sarisataka

(22,489 posts)
10. I believe in Tallentyre's writing
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jan 2017

misattributed to Voltaire:

‘I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,’


If we only support free expression of ideas we believe in then we do not support free expression. As you point out, that is a double edged sword.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
11. +1000
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jan 2017

If we only listen to those we agree with we are no better than Trump's legions of 'low-information' followers. How can we possibly say we are for free speech when the only speech we allow is from those we agree with?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. So those shouting don't matter? Their speech is not as worthy?
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:02 PM
Jan 2017

I don't think you understand the idea of protesting.

UpInArms

(54,740 posts)
8. there should be no room in our universities for hate speech
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

ever

those people should not be warmed by the heaters paid for by taxpayer dollars

they should freeze in hell

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
12. So you disagree with the SCOTUS decision in 1978 to allow the American Nazi Party
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jan 2017

to march through a Jewish community in Skokie, IL? Note that it was the ACLU that was representing the ANP. You either have Free Speech or you don't. There isn't any "Free Speech so long as I agree with what the speaker is saying."

"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire

UpInArms

(54,740 posts)
35. not having hate speech on a taxpayer funded university
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jan 2017

is not opposing "free" speech

you can do and say what you want, but I don't have to pay for it

go rent the convention center at the Marriott Hotel

say whatever

peace

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
40. I totally agree. Hate speech has no place on a taxpayer funded forum.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jan 2017

Go do it on their own dime.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
44. Well...that tiny fact might have been overlooked by a lot of people.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jan 2017

Seems some don't understand what protesting means, that is sad imo.

tblue37

(68,406 posts)
15. The College Republicans are idiots to attach their brand to such widely reviled
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jan 2017

scumbags, thus proving that all the negative things we say about Republicans are true.

 

Throd 2.0

(62 posts)
17. That sucks. I support free speech for everybody.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jan 2017

Even for people whose views I find reprehensible.

Tikki

(15,097 posts)
19. Pretty sure we are, also, a democracy. The students at the University spoke. The repugs could host
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:31 PM
Jan 2017

those BFF's off campus...no problems.

Tikki

 

Throd 2.0

(62 posts)
21. I'm sure you'll be just as supportive of that "democracy" when pro-Trump people exercise it.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jan 2017

Tikki

(15,097 posts)
22. I bet there are Universities that would have NO protests having pharmacy guy and twitter guy...
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jan 2017

and I bet their student body would show up in droves to celebrate them.



Tikki

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
23. They got exactly what they wanted, and UC Davis students handed it to them on a platter
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:33 PM
Jan 2017

Inviting them in order to incite protests that would force the cancellation of the event and show "the intolerance of the left" was the ENTIRE point of the event.

Initech

(108,466 posts)
24. And they'll go to their laptops and whine about us needing safe spaces.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:47 PM
Jan 2017

I'm growing increasingly intolerant of these dipshits.

Tikki

(15,097 posts)
25. I am from this area of California and no one is crying over the cancellation...if anything..
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:47 PM
Jan 2017

it just reinforces what people should already know: California is a Liberal State with a Liberal lean to these students.

There would be more of a surprise if there were no protests.

The repug party students will get over it and move on to their next antic. They have to pretend like they are relevant some way.

Tikki

Tikki

(15,097 posts)
30. Doubt it....
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:56 PM
Jan 2017

Don't his bees swarm the toobs.

They can get all they want from him in less than 140 characters.

Tikki

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
31. Why would UC Davis even okay this.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jan 2017

Milo Yiannopoulos is a white nationalist bigot of the highest order.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
32. Its shocking he was even given a permit to speak.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 05:23 PM
Jan 2017

Some voices just aren't worthy of being heard.

Tikki

(15,097 posts)
33. Not really...if the repug group followed all procedure...
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jan 2017

but then protest should always be viable.

Those worms could have waited out the protest.

Bet they got their speaking fee.

Tikki

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
34. Public colleges should not allow hate speech
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jan 2017

Period. The permit should never have been approved. They knew who was speaking.

Tikki

(15,097 posts)
36. You are correct, there should be something in their charter that defines what is acceptable....
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:04 PM
Jan 2017

I hope protests were known to be about the administration decision, too.

I am writing those at the UC system to let them know of my disapproval.

Tikki

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
37. I wonder how Trump will define Hate Speech?
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 11:24 PM
Jan 2017

Really, free speech has changed a lot since I was young.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
38. Thank you
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017

We either have free speech or we don't. Reading this thread just makes me sad.

Whether or not universities should limit free speech (e.g. allowing a hate group to speak) is a different question, but if a university chooses to do so, we should recognize that we are NOT supporting the idea of free speech when we support that action.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
39. I think universities should not stop hate groups from speaking
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jan 2017

I don't think there's such a definition of what a hate group is.

It's too easy to just say anyone I don't like is a hate group. Just depends who has the right to make the declaration.

Free speech means an exchange of views, often different than what you're used to hearing or what you're comfortable with.

After all, speech most everyone agrees with hardly needs protection.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
46. Community standards can help define what a hate group is
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017

And clearly the University community in this case made a clear decision.

Response to philosslayer (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Good to see those that pay to keep the lights on protest such vile scum.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jan 2017

No, you don't have a right to free speech on private property. Sorry to those that don't get it.

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