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Liberty Belle

(9,706 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 02:57 AM Jan 2017

Trump promises his Obamcare replacement plan will cover all: report

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Source: CNN

President-elect Donald Trump is putting the finishing touches on an Obamacare replacement plan that aims to provide "insurance for all," he told The Washington Post.

...Trump is making some big promises: His insurance reform will cover more people and cost less money. "We're going to have insurance for everybody," Trump told The Washington Post. "There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us."

"[They] can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better," he said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/15/politics/trump-obamacare/index.html



Much as I can't stand Trump, I sure hope he could have the strength to stand up to the Republicans in Congress and force through healthcare for all or at least something that's decent. He also has said we can't just let people die in the streets.

Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that on this one issue, his bullying style could be what's needed. The GOP Congress has backed itself into a corner --insisting Obamacare is bad and must be repealed, but taking heat for not having a replacement or replacing it with something worse. They seriously underestimated the amount of pushback they'd get from their constituents.

On the other hand he could be misinterpreting when key Reps say "universal access" instead of "universal healthcare." I hope he will understand whatever he someday signs.



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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
1. Does That Mean Single Payer. Maybe He Means ALL Whites Only.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:11 AM
Jan 2017

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
2. Yes , " Access" meaning "$$$$$ buys access - in all its forms" nt
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:17 AM
Jan 2017
 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
3. Gump's promises are emptier than his cranium.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:24 AM
Jan 2017

bluestateboomer

(546 posts)
4. Sounds like single payer
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:35 AM
Jan 2017

I don't see the Republicans doing anything like this, but I'd cheer for them if they did.

JohnnyRingo

(20,863 posts)
7. It'll have to cost nothing.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 04:13 AM
Jan 2017

The Tea Party Caucus alone won't accept tax cuts or "future growth" as payment and aren't about to allow more govt spending. Not one dime.

It'll end up like before, all the insurance you can afford... for everybody.

MistakenLamb

(791 posts)
10. he is against single payer from the Washington Post
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 06:00 AM
Jan 2017
It’s not going to be their plan,” he said of people covered under the current law. “It’ll be another plan. But they’ll be beautifully covered. I don’t want single-payer. What I do want is to be able to take care of people,” he said Saturday.
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
5. It will be based on his HHS and Ryan's proposals. It is privatization, and it will be bad
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:37 AM
Jan 2017

It won't just apply to the ACA, Medicare and Medicaid will be right on that same chopping block.

By universal healthcare, he means universal access.

Here are five key planks in his own health care proposal:

1.Price's plan offers fixed tax credits so people can buy their own insurance on the private market. The credit starts at $1,200 a year and rises with age, but isn't adjusted for income. Everyone receives the same credit whether they are rich or poor. People on Medicaid, Medicare, the military health plan known as Tricare, or the Veterans Affairs' health plan could opt instead for the tax credit to buy private insurance.
2.Price advocates for expansion of health savings accounts, which allow people to save money before taxes to pay for health care. This includes allowing people who are covered by government health programs including Medicare and the VA to contribute to health savings accounts to pay for premiums and copayments. These proposals are included in Ryan's plan.
3.People with existing medical conditions couldn't be denied coverage under Price's plan as long as they had continuous insurance for 18 months prior to selecting a new policy. If they didn't, then they could be denied coverage for that condition for up to 18 months after buying a new plan.
4.The Price proposal limits the amount of money companies can deduct from their taxes for employee health insurance expenses. Companies can deduct up to $20,000 for a family health insurance plan and $8,000 for an individual. The goal is to discourage companies from offering overly generous insurance benefits to their workers. Ryan's plan proposes a cap on the employer tax deduction but doesn't specify the level of the cap.
5.States would get federal money to create so-called high-risk pools under Price's plan. These are government-run health plans for people with existing medical conditions who can't get affordable health insurance on the private market. Critics say high-risk pools have been tried in as many as 34 states and largely failed because they were routinely underfunded.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/29/503720671/5-things-to-know-about-rep-tom-prices-health-care-ideas

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
6. What a joke. $1200 a year? My current insurance premium (Kaiser Gold) runs over $900 in just one mo.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:48 AM
Jan 2017

I think Trump and the R's are going to find out how difficult it is to craft a replacement for the ACA that doesn't involve hurting millions of people. Or maybe they just don't care?

One bright spot is Trump's statement that he wants Medicare and Medicaid to negotiate prices directly with drug companies. This is something the Dems couldn't achieve with the ACA, too much push back from Big Pharma. I doubt however that the GOP will support that either.

I don't have my hopes up for any of this.

cstanleytech

(28,463 posts)
8. I think its just Donald blowing his own horn to hear himself talk and that the fact is he has no
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 04:30 AM
Jan 2017

plan that would be better to replace ACA with and anyone who depended on the ACA is about to get royally reamed by the Republicans.

mahina

(20,639 posts)
11. Is that for one person?
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 06:37 AM
Jan 2017

Holy cow.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
9. I don't want cheap insurance. I want healthcare.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 05:10 AM
Jan 2017

If it could have been done better and cheaper 6 years ago, it would have been done.

Unless he's talking single payer, thre is no way this will work.

mahina

(20,639 posts)
12. Problem is what comes out of his mouth is completely meaningless.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 06:37 AM
Jan 2017

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. Duplicate topic - Locking
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 06:47 AM
Jan 2017

Please post this article in the previous thread about the same subject here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141666889

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