BREAKING NEWS U.S. intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and data for links
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Source: NYT
WASHINGTON — American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, current and former senior American officials said.
The continuing counterintelligence investigation means that Mr. Trump will take the oath of office on Friday with his associates under investigation and after the intelligence agencies concluded that the Russian government had worked to help elect him. As president, Mr. Trump will oversee those agencies and have the authority to redirect or stop at least some of these efforts.
It is not clear whether the intercepted communications had anything to do with Mr. Trump’s campaign, or Mr. Trump himself. It is also unclear whether the inquiry has anything to do with an investigation into the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computers and other attempts to disrupt the elections in November. The American government has concluded that the Russian government was responsible for a broad computer hacking campaign, including the operation against the D.N.C.
The counterintelligence investigation centers at least in part on the business dealings that some of the president-elect’s past and present advisers have had with Russia. Mr. Manafort has done business in Ukraine and Russia. Some of his contacts there were under surveillance by the National Security Agency for suspected links to Russia’s Federal Security Service, one of the officials said.
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tenorly
(2,037 posts)Unless it's to execute the arrest of one Manchurian candidate and his accomplices.
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)From either the NSA or GCHQ, probably both.
GusBob
(8,249 posts)Manafort is lying get him under oath
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,461 posts)It's not like this kind of shit is the fucking reason your agencies exist.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)things will be swept under the rug
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)reins of the country very soon, and he's been lining up his henchmen and hatchet men to do his bidding. Meanwhile, he'll be cutting the deplorables legs out from under them as they stupidly chant Trump Trump Trump and praise him as their great leader, the dumb fucks.
David Williams
(6 posts)My elderly grandmother who was alive during the great depression, and needless to say has seen it all, thinks Trump could be the one that starts Armageddon. This woman is not a drama queen, either. She's even keeled, serious-minded, and educated. She can't believe someone like Donald Trump has risen to power in America.
still_one
(98,883 posts)
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)lying, threatening. Another side is that his gross incompetency calls others to protect him from himself and to protect everyone else from him. Those around him know he's crazy. They know that they can't be.
calimary
(90,020 posts)Your grandma would have all kinds of extremely valid perspective on this era now. You're lucky to have her as a resource. Everybody I know who's my age (early 60s) says the same thing: we've never seen this kind of thing before. Even bush/cheney's intrusion into the White House wasn't this jarring, or this immediately impeachable!
We have NEVER had a situation like this, that I can recall since I started paying attention (around Nixon-time).
We have NEVER had a puppet installed in the White House by a hostile foreign power. Never.
Vladimir Putin chose our "president" for us.
That has NEVER happened before. Even when bush/cheney stole it, they stole it for and by themselves. They didn't have some other international strongman putting his thumb on the scale to get them into the White House. They didn't have foreign intervention. They connived and stole it on their own.
This, as far as I can recall, is a FIRST.
bucolic_frolic
(55,138 posts)That could be a local charge brought outside Washington DC, and even
outside the Federal government, under the right circumstances
Don't give up hope. Ever. There are patriots in our government, tens of
thousands of them who have worked their entire lives to protect us. They
are not happy with conveyance of the country to a hostile foreign power.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)worried that the investigations will be quashed.
chowder66
(12,242 posts)Not sure how much she will talk about it since she said it was breaking....
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Russia.
chowder66
(12,242 posts)KewlKat
(5,810 posts)
milestogo
(23,082 posts)
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Abouttime
(675 posts)Can't Obama do something on his last day in office?
elmac
(4,642 posts)The orange psychopath will shut them down.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)
bucolic_frolic
(55,138 posts)or did journalists do the gumshoe work and the government came around?
NewJeffCT
(56,848 posts)Democrats had big edges in both the House and Senate.
bucolic_frolic
(55,138 posts)which was the bipartisanship needed to push out Nixon
If Nixon were a Democrat you think it wouldn't have happened?
The case against him became irrefutable, and had universal public visibility
royable
(1,426 posts)that tomorrow morning, Drumpf will be standing, about to have the oath of office administered, and suddenly a group of federal officers move in, put him in handcuffs, and drag him away. One can dream...
woodsprite
(12,582 posts)Such a waste...
If they really wanted to save America, they'd have "leaked" this earlier. My fear is that there is not too much they can do after noon today. Nixing the investigations will probably be one of the first things he does. May be the only thing he actually does since he's more interested in parades and rallies.
Lithos
(26,638 posts)n/t
0rganism
(25,644 posts)they'll need to work in deep cover for a few years
David Williams
(6 posts)The election was fraudulently affected by Russian interference. I believe the proof is coming soon. When it is proven, then the entire vote should start over from scratch. Also, Pence cannot just slide into the White House by default, either. They're all frauds. Trump, Pence, the cabinet of deplorables are all losers in their own right.
murielm99
(32,988 posts)what do they do? Tell us that everything is fine, move along, nothing to see here? It would not surprise me.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)they need. They've been hesitating because they, too, are in uncharted territory. Someone has to take the lead, there has to be a realignment. Then there will be action.
Grammy23
(6,122 posts)I believe it is because it will cause a Constitutional crisis like we've never seen in this country. tRump is tainted and if he is Pence is, too. That whole ticket is a big fraud. Obama is on his way out the door and under the Constitution can't just stay in office until we figure this out. Ryan and the rest of that bunch of horse thieves are all touched in some way by this mess, so the orderly transfer of power is kind Of in limbo until we figure out who did what and who is legit.
I think there has been a lot of behind the scenes work to figure out what needs to happen. Maybe they finally put the pieces together and we will know something soon. Tomorrow morning is ok with me.
I swear if we were writing a spy novel, we couldn't make this sh*t up.
TomCADem
(17,837 posts)...Nixon firing Archibald Cox will look tame by comparison.
Saturday Night Massacre Part II:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
When Cox issued a subpoena to President Nixon, asking for copies of taped conversations recorded in the Oval Office and authorized by Nixon, the President initially refused to comply. On Friday, October 19, 1973, Nixon offered what was later known as the Stennis Compromise—asking the infamously hard-of-hearing Senator John C. Stennis of Mississippi to review and summarize the tapes for the special prosecutor's office. Cox refused the compromise that same evening and it was believed that there would be a short rest in the legal maneuvering while government offices were closed for the weekend.
However, on the following day (a Saturday) Nixon ordered Attorney General Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson refused, and resigned in protest. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus to fire Cox. He also refused and resigned.[4][5]
Nixon then ordered the Solicitor General, Robert Bork (as acting head of the Justice Department), to fire Cox. Both Richardson and Ruckelshaus had given personal assurances to Congressional oversight committees that they would not interfere, but Bork had not. Although Bork would later claim that he believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he still considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[6] Nevertheless, having been brought to the White House by limousine and sworn in as Acting Attorney General, Bork wrote the letter firing Cox.[7] Initially, the White House claimed to have fired Ruckelshaus, but as The Washington Post article written the next day pointed out, "The letter from the President to Bork also said Ruckelshaus resigned."
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The freakin Evil Empire Cabal (RR) is out to screw over America and Americans.
DeminPennswoods
(17,506 posts)Stone is a dirty trickster going back to at least Nixon. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he looked around and saw ways he could use both Manafort's and Page's ties to Russia to help Trump. Manafort and Page are just busy making money off Russia, I'd put them in the category of mercenaries, but not in the class of a political dirty trickster like Stone. Stone does this stuff because he loves it, but he has one big problem - he can't help bragging about what he'd done. Not big brags, but dropping little hints here and there like his tweet about the Podesta/DNC emails being dropped.
Remember Tony Ulasewicz, the bag man (left bags of cash in phone booths) of Watergate fame? Stone seems to me kind of like him, the cutout making all the payments.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Remember the Cuban Missile crisis? If they are not investigated Castro then they are missing a lot of the puzzle.
Nick Otean
(26 posts)From the article.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Duplicate of http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141671440