Russia propaganda turns up in US foreign policy query

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Source: MSNBC Rachel Maddow

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/russia-propaganda-turns-up-in-us-foreign-policy-query-871470659984




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Rachel explains how Russia and Belarus, formerly of the USSR, are often at odds as Belarus does its independent and Western-oriented thing and Big Bear Russia doesn't like it. Russia has put out propaganda that Belarus is now threatened with invasion by Poland. With this fake news, Putin has a pretext for upcoming military "aid" to Belarus.

The kicker: Trump senior officials are scouring agencies seeking information about this fake news. This proves to me Trump is nothing but Russia's stupid stooge. IMPEACH NOW NOT LATER

So dangerous---Trumpists taking their eyes off real security issues in favor of fake news

[Mrs. Overall]

1. I didn't see Rachel's show. How does Russia's fake news implicate Trump?

[wordpix]

2. I updated my post to make it clearer so suggest you read it again,

then ask q's if it's still not enough

[madaboutharry]

4. The senior aides were asking for intelligence based on propaganda from Russia.

Last edited Tue Feb 7, 2017, 12:32 AM - Edit history (1)

[Mrs. Overall]

5. Ok....thanks! I should read the full article (once it comes out from Rachel's show).

[fountainofyouth]

14. Not NSA

"Senior aides"

Link to tweet

[madaboutharry]

15. I'll fix it.

[wordpix]

28. you're right, I corrected it

[uppityperson]

3. missing the link

[uppityperson]

9. It may be hugely significant, but isn't following LBN SOP, no link, no title, no time, analysis

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[wordpix]

29. done now

[cstanleytech]

6. Did the LBN rules over analysis/opinion pieces suddenly change?

[wordpix]

8. hey, throw me out, if they will

I'll move it elsewhere when the link's posted

[cstanleytech]

16. Oh I dont have a problem with you posting it on the DU itself wordpix

but perhaps it would be better over in General unless of course LBN rules have changed in which case nevermind

[left-of-center2012]

10. When posting "Latest Breaking News" ...

You need to follow the guidelines.

[highplainsdem]

11. Here - links to two topics I posted about this on Saturday:

Flynn asks for nonexistent evidence of "Polish incursions in Belarus" - What is he setting up?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028594421


Wow. Ukrainian blogger/filmmaker on what the "Polish incursions in Belarus" garbage could be about

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028595059

[DURHAM D]

12. Here is the short version of this story.

Lt. General Flaky Flynn, Trump's National Security Whisperer, is absolutely bat shit crazy.

It is no wonder he got demoted by Obama and could not keep an aid to save himself.

[zentrum]

13. Trump is trying

....to help Russia make military moves on Belarus. He's looking for things that can be massaged into a rational for Putin's aggression.

I'm sure Putin will return the favor someday soon.

[cstanleytech]

17. Perhaps, or perhaps Putin and Belarus are hoping to carve some chunks off of Poland

maybe around the Gdansk area?

[zentrum]

18. Terrifying.

Nato is building up troops on Polish border.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/14/europe/poland-us-troops-nato-welcome/

I mean, WTF is going on?

[cstanleytech]

19. Easy, they have seen the tactics Russia used with so called "rebels" and are

simply getting prepared just incase Russia tries any shit with Poland.

[zentrum]

20. Yes, but I mean something bigger than that.

This is how big wars are started. World Wars. NATO lining up against Russia in Poland is terrifying on that level.

[cstanleytech]

21. Ya but if there is a war with Russia it wont be because NATO started it. nt

[wordpix]

23. it's about NATO, which Belarus is involved in: Russia doesn't like that

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49119.htm

snip:
Belarus joined NATO’s Partnership for Peace (PfP) in 1995. NATO and Belarus have established a relationship based on the pursuit of common interests, while also keeping open channels for dialogue. Belarus has developed an Individual Partnership Programme (IPP) and participates in the Planning and Review Process (PARP).

Russia clearly wants Belarus to stay in its orbit. No doubt there's oil or need for a pipeline...

[cstanleytech]

25. Makes sense though I still suspect Russia wouldnt mind nipping off some of Poland if

it thought it could get away with it.

[MBS]

26. or otherwise getting them more under their thumb.

Putin's M.O., so far, seems to be disruption, corruption and shaking up confidence in democratic processes. (Remind you of anyone in the White House?)

But, yes, I agree, I wouldn't put anything past him, including nipping off bits of Poland - and the Baltic countries - and whichever neighboring countries might either provide him more naval access (thus, I believe, their longtime interest in Syria) or whose democracies or opposition he might find threatening to his autocratic rule.

[wordpix]

33. Putin's MO is so-called Comm. in Chief MO---Putin tells DT what to do

Such as "Get any intel you can about Poland and Belarus NOW, this is a top security priority." Trumputinn says yes, sir.

And Putin has obviously also told Drumpf to get control of the media and protests.

[MBS]

22. Creepy and dangerous.

The scary part is that even if/when we impeach Trump, we're still left with all this other scum, like Flynn, Bannon, Pence, and all their allies.

Congress and the judiciary and fellow citizens: the time to step up to the plate for our democracy and our country is NOW.

[wordpix]

24. no we're not left with the swamp scum

they'll be booted out with next president and that won't be VP Dense

[MBS]

27. I sure hope you're right1

I have increasing confidence that we can throw them out in 2020 (if there is a country left at all by then.)
But it's the next 4 years that have me worried. If we had a parliamentary system, we could throw them all out sooner. And hopefully in 2018 we could make some legislative gains. But with impeachment, how many people can we get rid of before then?

[wordpix]

31. there will be a fight

R's will want Dense but HRC won the popular vote, so I think Dems should FIGHT. Or compromise and bring back Pres. O until next election.

[DetlefK]

30. As an ukrainian blogger remarked on this:

The Trump-admin can get this idea that Poland is invading Belarus only from two possible sources:
- russian Neo-Nazi-blogs
- the unrecorded phone-call with Putin (of which only a one-sentence-summary exists in the official WH-record)

[bigbrother05]

32. Trump, et al are buying into the Kremlin's propaganda

NATO/US are working more closely with the eastern part of the alliance. There's talk of a permanent US base in Poland and we've been training in Bulgaria and Romania for several years now. All that started under W, but Putin saw it and took the Crimea as a way to push back without a direct confrontation with the West. He's now sent missiles into Kaliningrad to escalate and test Trump's comprehension. This thing with Belarus is the next step.

Putin is hoping to get Trump to break NATO for him without firing a shot and recreate either the USSR or the old Russian empire.

[wordpix]

34. is it impeachment yet?

I'm working on it but let's make it happen NOW

[DonViejo]

35. Locking...

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