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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:17 PM Feb 2017

Flynn apologizes to Pence: report

Last edited Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:11 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: The Hill

National security adviser Michael Flynn has apologized after reportedly discussing U.S. sanctions with Russias ambassador before President Trump entered office, according to a new report.

Flynn directed most of his remorse to Vice President Mike Pence, USA Today said Monday, after Pence defended him and told CBS last month that Flynn never spoke about sanctions during his calls to Russia.

USA Today said it confirmed the Flynn-Pence phone call with a White House official speaking on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation.

Flynn now admits he may have discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, but cannot be 100 percent certain, the official added.
Reports emerged last week that Flynn spoke with Kislyak about U.S. sanctions against Russia before Trumps Jan. 20 inauguration.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/319304-flynn-apologizes-to-pence-report



This might be a real moment. I just saw this on Twitter.

Bradd Jaffy? @BraddJaffy

Spicer just read a statement on Flynn: The President is evaluating the situation...



https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/831265131392806915
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Flynn apologizes to Pence: report (Original Post) herding cats Feb 2017 OP
How about an apology to all of America ..... Botany Feb 2017 #1
Exactly what I was going to post! I'm furious. manicraven Feb 2017 #27
This is our hammer to beat Trump w/ Botany Feb 2017 #29
Amen! NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #34
Apologised to Pence Plucketeer Feb 2017 #39
So that means he is guilty then. Historic NY Feb 2017 #2
That's my thought, too. nt herding cats Feb 2017 #11
Too little True Dough Feb 2017 #3
I love that story. Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #4
Mike Flynn is at best MontanaMama Feb 2017 #5
If he was using encrypted communications, I think it's the latter. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #7
Apologized for WHAT, again? TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #6
Pence does B all by himself. George II Feb 2017 #14
C. Pence knew all along and Flynn is trying to fall on his sword to save Trump and company Botany Feb 2017 #20
of course he apolgized to Pence DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #8
The tapes must be devastating. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #9
What kind of brain does he have if he can not remember?? Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #10
Hey Flynn, your "apology" is not accepted turbinetree Feb 2017 #12
+1 ck4829 Feb 2017 #25
Did you by chance see how the fraudster performed National Security in Mar a Largo turbinetree Feb 2017 #26
Wow... Can you imagine if Obama did anything remotely like this? ck4829 Feb 2017 #30
It just never stops with this corrupt team........................ turbinetree Feb 2017 #33
What a phucking shit show. Can we like fire his combover ass already? mobeau69 Feb 2017 #13
And? lame54 Feb 2017 #15
Did he ever apologize for Clinton's child sex rumor? left-of-center2012 Feb 2017 #16
Oh, he apologized? Ligyron Feb 2017 #17
"may have"? ginnyinWI Feb 2017 #18
So when is he going to apologize for dehumanizing Muslims, including Muslim Americans? ck4829 Feb 2017 #19
Probably along the lines of "I am sorry that I got caught". cstanleytech Feb 2017 #21
Blood is in the water now Recursion Feb 2017 #22
Oh, bullshit thegoose Feb 2017 #23
Flynn situation goes global, Russia denied Flynn talked about sanctions before he came clean ck4829 Feb 2017 #24
Cons gonna hire cons nt zentrum Feb 2017 #28
Please. Do You Think Flynn Really Contacted Russians w/o Trump's Blessing? TomCADem Feb 2017 #31
Exactly. herding cats Feb 2017 #32
So he apologizes and everything is fine then? Kablooie Feb 2017 #35
Dog and Pony Show to protect Pence and Trump. blm Feb 2017 #36
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #37
Can't see how bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #38
Flynn, Betrayus - are there any generals Plucketeer Feb 2017 #40

manicraven

(901 posts)
27. Exactly what I was going to post! I'm furious.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:27 PM
Feb 2017

I don't think he worked in a vacuum, though, and am sure tRump knew very well about the calls to Russia. Is this not a high crime and misdemeanor?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
39. Apologised to Pence
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 08:30 PM
Feb 2017

Maybe there's some clue to the future there. Flynn begging pardon from the soon-to-be president?

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
5. Mike Flynn is at best
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:26 PM
Feb 2017

a forgetful idiot and at worst a treasonist Russian asset. He might think about hiring a food taster...just saying. He's not equipped to be swimming in the deep end of this pool.



TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
7. If he was using encrypted communications, I think it's the latter.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:31 PM
Feb 2017

You didn't just forget that you discussed a certain topic. You took positive steps to CONCEAL the fact that you discussed a certain topic. The only reason we ever heard about it is because the spooks at the NSA who intercepted and decoded the conversation think it's the latter.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
6. Apologized for WHAT, again?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:28 PM
Feb 2017

A. Colluding with a hostile, foreign power that threw the election in their favor, and promising to reward them by undoing the sanctions once they're in office, or...

B. Making Pence look stupid on national TV?


If he's apologizing for A, he needs to apologize to the whole country. If he's apologizing for B, forget about it. Pence manages to look stupid on national TV all by himself.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
20. C. Pence knew all along and Flynn is trying to fall on his sword to save Trump and company
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:52 PM
Feb 2017

BTW Flynn doesn't remember what he talked about to the Russians but he did
remember to encrypt the message contact?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
8. of course he apolgized to Pence
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:32 PM
Feb 2017

because the fact that Pence was Trump
s assitant will be the best argument against letting Mike take the wheel when trump crashes.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. The tapes must be devastating.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:32 PM
Feb 2017

Now we have two liars before us, Flynn and Pence.

If this administration really has no problem with "alternative facts" nothing will happen.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
12. Hey Flynn, your "apology" is not accepted
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:40 PM
Feb 2017

you belong to a team, that has cavorted with a known state actor that has murdered people and invaded a country, and to top it all off, knew that servers on a political party had been hacked, to turn an election over to your boss that doesn't know s**t, and is, lets me clue you in a sexual predator.
So in essence you should be brought before a court, along with his family your team and the worthless right wing, turn a blind eye fascists republican Congress, that has and is failing to ask questions, into the public preview just like we did during Watergate, Iran Contra-------------your party is the most most corrupt fascists party, and I thought Mussolini was bad, but your team is now number one.

But your ilk for over 8 years attacked a man and his family based on a Alex Jones, Breibart conspiracy theory, and a do nothing
gerrymandered Congress that thinks that the citizens of this country just like yourself should pay for the high crimes and misdemeanors-------do you understand this? You are a three star failure, that should never have been given a whistle to blow, because of your incompetence, right along with your boss and Congress.





turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
26. Did you by chance see how the fraudster performed National Security in Mar a Largo
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:25 PM
Feb 2017

over the weekend , while his company was bilking the U.S. treasury with this "state" dinner in Florida



http://crooksandliars.com/2017/02/how-presidential-decisions-get-made





ck4829

(35,039 posts)
30. Wow... Can you imagine if Obama did anything remotely like this?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

Republicans wouldn't be talking about impeachment, they'd suggest a mutiny.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
33. It just never stops with this corrupt team........................
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:38 PM
Feb 2017

ever since Watergate and Iran/Contra, these fascists have been given a pass, sure some had to resign or went to jail, but the head cheese at the the top of the Rat F*** keep getting away with this stuff and a right wing Congress, that has completely turned there heads and put them in the sand, and I can bet you one dollar, that Obama would have been brought before the Congress and Senate and been tried and convicted---------no doubt in my mind



left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. Did he ever apologize for Clinton's child sex rumor?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:45 PM
Feb 2017

Isn't this the same guy who retweeted that Hillary Clinton was involved in a child sex ring based in a Washington, D.C. pizza parlor?

When's Trump going to drain the swamp?

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
17. Oh, he apologized?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:46 PM
Feb 2017

Well, of course - that makes it all OK then. Pffhhh...

Seriously, how could Flynn not realize that any conversation with the Russian Embassy would be monitored by the Intel agencies?

Even he isn't THAT stupid - which makes me wonder if something else isn't up with this whole affair. I don't know what exactly but something about this just doesn't pass the smell test.

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
19. So when is he going to apologize for dehumanizing Muslims, including Muslim Americans?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 06:51 PM
Feb 2017

When is he going to apologize for pushing Pizzagate?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. Blood is in the water now
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:08 PM
Feb 2017

This would be fun to watch if I weren't worried about all of us getting incinerated.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
23. Oh, bullshit
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:10 PM
Feb 2017

Anyone with the slightest sliver of a conscience would be 100 percent certain that they're committing treason. Wait -- what administration am I talking about?

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
31. Please. Do You Think Flynn Really Contacted Russians w/o Trump's Blessing?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

Flynn is going to be the fall guy and get a nice cushy golden parachute of some sort for taking one for Trump/Pence.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
32. Exactly.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:35 PM
Feb 2017

This call was done under the express consent of Trump at the least, and more likely at his bidding.

If Flynn does fall on his sword here it's to save Trump and Pence.

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
35. So he apologizes and everything is fine then?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:44 PM
Feb 2017

So he swung the election and a simple, I'm Sorry, fixes it all up.
Uh huh.
More Trump fantasyland thinking.

But if he cans Flynn, Flynn might spill the beans and then they are all sunk.

What do you bet he will apologize and Trump will keep him around so he'll stay quiet?

Brother Buzz

(36,388 posts)
37. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 07:51 PM
Feb 2017

Flynn will spill the beans if he's pushed out; he doesn't fall on swords.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
38. Can't see how
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 08:06 PM
Feb 2017

an apology does any good for incompetence, rogue operations, lying, illegality

Flynn's problem is he wasn't good enough - he got caught

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