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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:20 PM Feb 2017

GOP Rep.: Bales Of Marijuana Concealing Nukes Can Cross Border

Source: Talking Points Memo



By MATT SHUHAM Published FEBRUARY 22, 2017, 12:01 PM EDT

A Republican congressman from Arizona defended the construction of a barrier on the U.S.-Mexico border by arguing that a nuclear weapon could be smuggled across a porous border in a bale of marijuana.

Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), whose district is just over 100 miles away from the U.S.-Mexico border, referenced the illicit drug trade in a discussion Wednesday with CNN’s Brianna Keilar on President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall.

“The reality, Brianna, is that we have to measure all of the costs, ancillary and otherwise, and make the best decision that we can. But I can suggest to you that there are national security implications here for a porous border,” Franks said. “We sometimes used to make the point that if someone wanted to smuggle in a dangerous weapon, even a nuclear weapon, into America, how would they do it? And the suggestion was made, ‘Well, we'll simply hide it in a bale of marijuana.’”

“So the implications of a porous border have national security dimensions that are very significant and that bear a lot of conversation when we talk about costs," he said.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trent-franks-marijuana-border-nuclear-weapon

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GOP Rep.: Bales Of Marijuana Concealing Nukes Can Cross Border (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Idiot Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #1
Using the failed war on drugs to push an insane border wall. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #2
Freaking stupid and idiotic. lark Feb 2017 #3
"Let's send marijuana to the US and make a lot of money! Aristus Feb 2017 #4
Smuggling nuclear weapons is about the only thing Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #73
A nuke is not going to be built in Mexico exboyfil Feb 2017 #5
Here you go atreides1 Feb 2017 #16
Well that is damn depressing! hueymahl Feb 2017 #58
Add to that plan to hide it in a bale of weed. JohnnyRingo Feb 2017 #49
We have nothing to fear from NK HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #76
Wow man Mendocino Feb 2017 #6
The nuclear bale would allow you to create one of these BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #45
+1 LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #46
I don't know... yallerdawg Feb 2017 #7
Yep, gotta be easier ways to get a nuke in. brush Feb 2017 #32
It should work, to get past those plutonium-sniffing dogs at the border. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2017 #77
Franks - a very Gohmert or Bachmann or Blackburn- like individual NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #8
This a great idea....Put a nuc in a pile of pot, the dogs will never smell that nt Betty88 Feb 2017 #9
WTF ? Why hide it in a bale of MJ ? rickford66 Feb 2017 #10
Because it makes... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #34
I rarely LOL reading these posts, but LOL rickford66 Feb 2017 #37
Or, you could just theaocp Feb 2017 #11
Who needs bales of pot bronxiteforever Feb 2017 #12
But what about the anchor babies concealed insides those nukes, Congressman? Orsino Feb 2017 #13
And what about the poor aborted babies who will never grow up MindPilot Feb 2017 #64
WTF border wall, drug war, fear mongering nuclear threat njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #14
Yup, they'd surely package them nukes in something unsuspicious Zambero Feb 2017 #15
"Hey man, let's put the nuke in the bale,yeah man they'll never find it there." njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #61
Well, then let's start going all our marijuana HERE and we won't have to logosoco Feb 2017 #17
I never heard of marijuana being formed in bales. Crowman2009 Feb 2017 #18
I gather you've never seen a square grouper? Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #50
Well I meant hay-like bales. Crowman2009 Feb 2017 #66
Ultimate Conservative Boogeyman!!! BruceWane Feb 2017 #19
but think of the high from that detonation! dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #63
Make marijuana legal, and you don't have to worry about nukes in bales(!) of MJ.... haele Feb 2017 #20
Or just bring it through one of the many tunnels meadowlander Feb 2017 #60
Like they're going to spend millions on a nuclear device and trust it to dopeheads dalton99a Feb 2017 #21
Dave's not here, man. NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #26
"Harold and Kumar Go Nuclear" MindPilot Feb 2017 #59
Every pothead is a terrorist! mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #22
He's not entirely wrong BUT- hollowdweller Feb 2017 #23
If they really wanted to hide them from Franks n2doc Feb 2017 #24
OUCH! keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #27
Duzy. NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #28
serving in Congress since 2003 keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #25
oh, like anyone would ruin good pot elmac Feb 2017 #29
Like anyone is going to waste good pot leftyladyfrommo Feb 2017 #30
That may be just what the world needs C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #31
A bale of marijuana from Mexico? billpolonsky Feb 2017 #33
I'm having a lot of fun just imagining PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #35
No one said it had to be high quality. In fact it could be a bale of hay. yellowcanine Feb 2017 #42
Oh, I know. But I'm having fun with my little fantasy. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #48
Is that what happened in Bowling Green? Cryptoad Feb 2017 #36
No, that was the Swedish attack jmowreader Feb 2017 #71
That's what I call... defacto7 Feb 2017 #38
So they would hide it in contraband that dogs can smell? HopeAgain Feb 2017 #39
Wait - that doesn't even make sense. Do these guys even listen to themselves? yellowcanine Feb 2017 #40
That is so untrue... Dan Feb 2017 #41
Do they plan to put a fence along the Gulf of Mexico too? BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #43
SNL is going to have a field day with this. yellowcanine Feb 2017 #44
What an idiot LittleGirl Feb 2017 #47
a nuke could be hidden in a palette of Canadian bacon onenote Feb 2017 #51
That's some ninja level stupid. meadowlander Feb 2017 #52
Anyone can get a complete circus into the US undetected Jeroen Feb 2017 #53
Reminds me of Condoleeza's "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" diva77 Feb 2017 #54
Easier to hide it tazkcmo Feb 2017 #55
Now, that is a mushroom cloud I could get into! MindPilot Feb 2017 #56
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase EarlG Feb 2017 #57
All joking aside, this is about the stupidest thing I ever heard. MindPilot Feb 2017 #62
All the more reason to grow it here! CanonRay Feb 2017 #65
Maybe in a bowel of guacamole? left-of-center2012 Feb 2017 #67
You may need this... MindPilot Feb 2017 #69
One more reason to free the weed here. Panich52 Feb 2017 #68
How big do they think bales of marijuana are? jmowreader Feb 2017 #70
bale out? bora13 Feb 2017 #72
it's the Grizzlies that I'm worried about..... IcyPeas Feb 2017 #74
Maybe he saw that story about the guys who built a drug catapault on the border fence? kiranerys Feb 2017 #75

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
2. Using the failed war on drugs to push an insane border wall.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:22 PM
Feb 2017


What's next? This is your brain on marijuana videos.

lark

(26,081 posts)
3. Freaking stupid and idiotic.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:22 PM
Feb 2017

The inmates are in charge of the asylum, to our great peril.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
4. "Let's send marijuana to the US and make a lot of money!
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:23 PM
Feb 2017

Let's send with it a weapon that will kill the people who buy our marijuana! Because that's, like, the best business model EVER!"

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
5. A nuke is not going to be built in Mexico
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:25 PM
Feb 2017

It will be built probably in the midEast or Korea, and transported by ship. Which is easier - a coastal landing or a coastal landing in Mexico, overland trip, across the border, and transport to a high population center (most of which are already on the coast).

The easiest delivery would be in some sort of personal boat docking in any of a myriad number of cities and detonation right on the boat.

The stupidity is so bad - it burns.

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
49. Add to that plan to hide it in a bale of weed.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:51 PM
Feb 2017

...something a dog can sniff out from 100 feet. Might as well plaster a radioactive hazard placard on it too.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
76. We have nothing to fear from NK
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:13 PM
Feb 2017

or people smuggling one nuke through MX or to CA by sea. Russia is our nuclear enemy. No one else is close. End of story.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. I don't know...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:26 PM
Feb 2017

All the wild fantasy movies I've seen, more likely the pot would be hidden in the bomb!

"Drug cartels" don't really want to kill their customers, do they?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
32. Yep, gotta be easier ways to get a nuke in.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:52 PM
Feb 2017

LIKE SAY, ALL THE EFFIN PORTS ON THE COASTS.

What do these people eat to think up such stupid sh_t?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
77. It should work, to get past those plutonium-sniffing dogs at the border.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:50 PM
Feb 2017

Bombs? No officer, just another couple bales of weed, nothing to see.

rickford66

(6,065 posts)
10. WTF ? Why hide it in a bale of MJ ?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:28 PM
Feb 2017

Why not just smuggle the nuke the way you'd smuggle the bale? Where do they find these guys?

theaocp

(4,581 posts)
11. Or, you could just
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:30 PM
Feb 2017

smuggle a nuke on its own. It's not like the border is going to say, "Hey! It's JUST a bale of weed. Let it on through!" What the fuck kind of bullshit fear mongering is this amateur up to?

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
12. Who needs bales of pot
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:31 PM
Feb 2017

When bales of dark money can so easily buy a president for an actual nuclear power?

Maybe you should do some investigating Trent!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. But what about the anchor babies concealed insides those nukes, Congressman?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:32 PM
Feb 2017

And are you just giving a pass to the Zika in their bellies?

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
64. And what about the poor aborted babies who will never grow up
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:20 PM
Feb 2017

to enjoy a thermonuclear fireball?

What about THOSE children, Congressman?!

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
15. Yup, they'd surely package them nukes in something unsuspicious
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:35 PM
Feb 2017

Like marijuana. Just think about it. Once detonated, it would be the ultimate Cheech & Chong "Up in Smoke" moment. Sniffer dogs routinely detect packing peanuts, wooden crates, and bubble wrap every time, but everyone knows they are completely oblivious to pot!

njhoneybadger

(3,911 posts)
61. "Hey man, let's put the nuke in the bale,yeah man they'll never find it there."
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:13 PM
Feb 2017

Hey man, let's get the whole town high man,yeah man put the bale on the bond fire man,

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
18. I never heard of marijuana being formed in bales.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

Not even the dumbest smuggler of all time would carry around marijuana in bales.

BruceWane

(384 posts)
19. Ultimate Conservative Boogeyman!!!
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

Oh! The terror!

The threat of a thermonuclear marijuana bomb! Not only will you be vaporized, your moral fiber will be shredded by evil drugs!

BOO!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,160 posts)
63. but think of the high from that detonation!
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:19 PM
Feb 2017

Ok..it will be a brief high, admittedly. but still....

haele

(15,400 posts)
20. Make marijuana legal, and you don't have to worry about nukes in bales(!) of MJ....
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

Bales? That's going to need a huge backpack to transport it in across a border fence. Something big enough that two people are going to have to haul it, unless you can get the Mexican Mr. Universe contestant to haul it 70 miles across the desert on his back...

How does Mr. Franks think that amount of MJ is smuggled into the U.S.? Hint: A large Wall is not going to stop someone transporting a "bale" of MJ with even a small suitcase nuke hidden in it.

They're going to use a boat, or hide it in an 18-wheeler amongst crates of other imports for a "bale of marijuana". Or they're going to just ship components of a nuke along with a couple normal U.S. traveler's medical devices - or hidden as parts of other imports that they can intercept because they've got the manifest and know where it's going to be at any point in the shipment.

Typical unimaginative conservative.

Haele

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,851 posts)
22. Every pothead is a terrorist!
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

Don't blame me; I'm a draft resister in the war on drugs.

To be on the safe side, we should grow our own.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
23. He's not entirely wrong BUT-
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

Customs only screens a small amount of packages that come into the US legally, there's just not the manpower.

I'd think coming across from Mexico would be one of the least likely. More likely in a shipping container or something.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
24. If they really wanted to hide them from Franks
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:43 PM
Feb 2017

They would hide the nuke in a pile of intel reports on Putin-Trump ties. No Repub would ever look inside those!

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
25. serving in Congress since 2003
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:46 PM
Feb 2017

Too bad he didn't care back when Dubya was in office and republicans controlled both Houses of Congress.

yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
42. No one said it had to be high quality. In fact it could be a bale of hay.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
Feb 2017

Which would actually make more sense. I can't believe we are actually discussing this as if it were real.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
71. No, that was the Swedish attack
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:12 PM
Feb 2017

The Bowling Green one was a Corvette with a cast crank.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
38. That's what I call...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:01 PM
Feb 2017

the stupid manipulating the ultra stupid.

Wha? Is lead leeching into the drinking water down there?

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
39. So they would hide it in contraband that dogs can smell?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:03 PM
Feb 2017

Just because it is too easy to sneak in nukes and they want to make it more challenging?

Someone please let the pot smoking terrorists know that we aren't all as dumb as the republicans!

yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
40. Wait - that doesn't even make sense. Do these guys even listen to themselves?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:24 PM
Feb 2017

"How can we make sure that no one notices that nuke we are carrying across the border? I got it, we will hide it in a bale of marijuana, which the border police won't notice!"

Dan

(5,179 posts)
41. That is so untrue...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:26 PM
Feb 2017

why use bales of marijuana, when they can either charter a rich man's plane; or donate a few thousand to a member of the GOP and they will personally allow it to enter.

BumRushDaShow

(169,757 posts)
43. Do they plan to put a fence along the Gulf of Mexico too?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
Feb 2017

Or how about the thousands of miles along the entire West Coast?

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
47. What an idiot
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:39 PM
Feb 2017

Doesn't he know that people are growing their own now? WTF Dude. There are how many states with legal MJ now? How many states with MMJ? Come on, stop being the stupid party. ugh.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
51. a nuke could be hidden in a palette of Canadian bacon
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:54 PM
Feb 2017

So let's build a northern wall, too.

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
52. That's some ninja level stupid.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:58 PM
Feb 2017

I suspect, Trent, that the bad hombres prefer to hide the one illegal thing in something else that isn't illegal. Pro smuggler tip there.

Jeroen

(1,061 posts)
53. Anyone can get a complete circus into the US undetected
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:01 PM
Feb 2017

Seaports, containers, corruption and a little luck.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
56. Now, that is a mushroom cloud I could get into!
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:04 PM
Feb 2017

mmmm Uranium Kush

I can't believe some of these congressdudes can dress themselves and go outside without a helmet.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
62. All joking aside, this is about the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:17 PM
Feb 2017

Anyone with the actual technical and scientific wherewithal to build a nuclear device for the purpose of detonating it with in the borders of the US, would probably simply do it here. If they smuggled in some actual material, that would probably come by ship stashed in a box of engine blocks or something.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
70. How big do they think bales of marijuana are?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:10 PM
Feb 2017

Wouldn't it be more efficient to put one in a case of Ivanka Trump shoes and send it as containerized freight?

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
74. it's the Grizzlies that I'm worried about.....
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:44 PM
Feb 2017

they could just come across the border with MJ and nukes. I heard it somewhere, someone told me, it's true.

kiranerys

(54 posts)
75. Maybe he saw that story about the guys who built a drug catapault on the border fence?
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:06 PM
Feb 2017

And imagined "hey, if they can catapault drugs over the border, maybe they could catapault a nuclear bomb!". Nevermind that nuclear weapons weigh hundreds or thousands of pounds.

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