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[jalan48]

1. Thanks for the memories Donna but, we can do better.

[nikibatts]

47. A list of topics..but not the questions. What is sad about this is that HRC could assume the topics

on her own. She was savvy enough to assume what the TOPICS would be. I could have guessed what the topics would be, especially if I were holding a town hall in Flint.

It was dumb on Donna's part but I don't believe it gave HRC any edged that she didn't already have. It just made the DNC and Donna look bad.

[demmiblue]

2. P.S. Donna and Debbie can just...

[SunSeeker]

32. "can just" what? Why are you doing this?

Your OP, and your reply to your own OP, only serve to fling more divisive anti-Dem crap in our midst when we should be standing together against Trump.

Why oh WHY would you pick on these two great Democratic women? What purpose does it serve? Could you not find anything about Trump or his adminstration you don't like?

[hrmjustin]

3. I still think very highly of her.

[vi5]

4. Yeah, us too Donna......

....us too.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Hillary had her flaws as a candidate

but Q&A was not even close to being one of them. I never saw her stumped by a question. She knows all the issues in depth, is articulate and very good on her feet. That's what made this extra stupid. And then Trump came along and talked about it as if Hillary had all the questions to all the debates where she beat his ass and his credulous, cretinous followers ate it up.

Extra, extra stupid. You're not the only one with regrets, Donna.

[demmiblue]

11. Total unforced error.

I am not really a Hillary fan (obviously, I supported her in the general), but DAMN she owned him in the debates. Even when he was stalking her on the stage like a complete creeper. She kept her cool and nailed it.

[mdbl]

50. the anti-Clinton climate being nurture for the last 25 years was her undoing

Dorks in the heartland had this crap pounded into their heads and it showed at the voting booth. Brainwashing does work.

[pangaia]

6. MISTAKE MY ASS. She KNEW what she was doing.

It's like saying, Oh, I poured sand in one of the INDY cars. It was a mistake. I 'll never do it again.. meanwhile.......

regardless of whether Hillary or Bernie eventually won....

[FBaggins]

7. Did she apologize for lying about it?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

8. She didn't send them all at once, either.

Hillary could have told Donna not to send anything, but are we left to assume that she didn't say anything and continued to accept the "tips?"

[SunSeeker]

36. Brazile did not send those emails to Hillary; they went to Podesta and Palmieri.

There is no evidence Hillary got the tips (there were only two) or knew about Brazile's emails to Podesta and Palmieri.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

37. How do you think they presented it and prepped her for the questions?

Maybe they had a bout of conscience and sat on what they knew.

[SunSeeker]

40. Hillary didn't need to be prepped for the two questions mentioned by Brazile.

One was that she'd be asked about water contamination in the Flint debate. Do you thing anyone didn't know that? And Hillary had been championing Flint and had a plan for remediation. Hillary wanted the debate in Flint so she could talk about this stuff!

The other was that Hillary would be asked about her position on the death penalty, a question she had been asked, and answered, repeatedly.

That was it.

[NanceGreggs]

9. Donna shouldn't have done it ...

... but this whole thing is a non story, in that there is nothing HRC (and Bernie) didn't know would be asked about.

They're both politicians, both smart people, and both well-versed on how these debates go. I cannot imagine that ANY topic raised at any of the debates came as a surprise to either.

[monmouth4]

10. Bernie folks remember it well too..n/t

[demmiblue]

14. So do Hillary folks. So do O'Malley folks. So do other folks. Your point?

[Plucketeer]

25. You have to have it EXPLAINED to you??? nt

[demmiblue]

58. My bad, assumed something that wasn't there. n/t

[lapucelle]

17. Donna Brazile wasn't working for the DNC at the time.

Facts matter.

[Talk Is Cheap]

20. Oh, my bad...someone else had their fingers on the scale...

Facts matter...

[lapucelle]

24. Yes, you're right...

16,000,000 voters had their fingers on the scale.

[Beacool]

13. Hillary is a policy wonk.

She's never needed to cheat in any debate. I don't know why Brazile sent her those emails.

As for the DNC, of course they were going to favor an actual Democrat to an Independent who only joined the party when he decided to run for president.

[demmiblue]

16. They were both running as candidates for the Democratic party.

They could have just as easily said 'NO'.

[SunSeeker]

31. Brazile did not send the emails to Hillary.

Brazile sent them to just Palmieri and Podesta. There is no evidence Hillary got them. And the "tips" were stuff everyone already knew.

[LisaL]

49. Exactly. It was extremely obvious that these type of questions were going to be asked.

[LisaL]

51. Hillary didn't ask for any debate questions.

I don't know how she could have said NO to something she didn't know was coming.

[demmiblue]

57. The NO was referring to letting an Independent run as a Democrat.

As for the DNC, of course they were going to favor an actual Democrat to an Independent who only joined the party when he decided to run for president.

All Democratic candidates should be treated fairly and impartially.

[lapucelle]

15. There's an accuracy problen with The Hill's clickbait headline

Brazile contacted the campaign, not Clinton herself.

However, if people want to conflate the candidate with the campaign, they should do so across the board and include instances of data breach, lest they be perceived as applying a double standard.

[LisaM]

18. Thanks for pointing that out.

Besides, didn't we all know what the Town Hall topics were?

[lapucelle]

21. ***BREAKING***

One of the questions was about water contamination. The town hall was in Flint, Michigan.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

38. Gee. That makes it better. They didn't need to do it but did it anyway.

[brewens]

19. And I regret her needing that inside information. n

[lapucelle]

23. You're relying on the assumption that she actually had the information.

[SunSeeker]

28. The "tips" were hardly the sort of information Hillary could not have surmised herself.

Hillary was a policy wonk. She did not "need" these tips. Hell, neither did Bernie. Did ANYONE need to be told that water contamination might come up at the Flint debate?

Or that she might be asked about the death penalty, something she was getting repeatedly asked about, as the exchange of emails between Palmieri and Brazile acknowledges?

How are those two tips "putting the thumb on the scale" for Hillary?

[Lunabell]

22. What else did she do?

And didn't get caught doing? I wonder...
..

[SunSeeker]

29. Enquiring minds want to know!

[Cary]

26. Hey, I know!

Let's sow ever more discord and discontent right through November 2018 so we can snatch another defeat.feom the jaws of victory!

Hey maybe we can keep it up through 2020 to give Orange Hiltler more time to destroy our nation!

[LiberalFighter]

27. I wouldn't trust anything from the writer who is a Washington Times staple.

[SunSeeker]

30. Why cite this conservative's article when you could have cited the Time article he was basing it on?

Concha completely ignores the whole point of that Time article, which is entitled, "Donna Brazile: Russian DNC Narrative Played Out Exactly As They Hoped."

In that Time article, Brazile accurately states:

By stealing all the DNC’s emails and then selectively releasing those few, the Russians made it look like I was in the tank for Secretary Clinton. Despite the strong, public support I received from top Sanders campaign aides in the wake of those leaks, the media narrative played out just as the Russians had hoped, leaving Sanders supporters understandably angry and sowing division in our ranks. In reality, not only was I not playing favorites, the more competitive and heated the primary got, the harder D.N.C. staff worked to be scrupulously fair and beyond reproach. In all the months the Russians monitored the D.N.C.’s email, they found just a handful of inappropriate emails, with no sign of anyone taking action to disadvantage the Sanders campaign.

http://time.com/4705515/donna-brazile-russia-emails-clinton/

Your OP, and Concha's piece, only serve to reinforce the false narrative that Putin and Trump sought to establish with the Podesta email leaks. To get a flavor for the kind of conservative garbage this douchebag puts out, just Google "Joe Concha The Hill." You'll get stuff like this article bashing Samantha Bee, with such ridiculously wrong statements as:

But Bee will get a pass here because media routinely fawns over the myopic narrative of her program: Attack Trump, attack conservatives, all without remotely considering making a joke about the other side, and you'll be receiving weekly praise and plenty of awards for the next few decades.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/323385-samantha-bee-is-late-night-tvs-leading-hypocrite-on-racial-diversity


And THIS is the guy whose article you chose to spotlight in LBN?!

[joshcryer]

45. That's the key here. Out of thousands of emails...

...they found a couple, that they used via social media engineering, to sow division and create the BoB movement. And most of those were irrelevant policy suggestions that never made it to the fore in Clinton's campaign. Clinton played with kids gloves compared to the 2008 campaign against Sanders. That's the saddest thing about this whole thing.

[Beaverhausen]

33. As if any question in a debate would be a big surprise

this is ridiculous.

[melman]

34. Then why did she do this?

[SunSeeker]

35. Because she is a former campaign manager (for Gore, and many other Dems) and wanted to help.

As she put it,

"As a longtime political activist with deep ties in our party, I supported all of our candidates for president. I often shared my thoughts with each and every campaign, and any suggestions that indicate otherwise are simply untrue," she wrote in a statement. 


https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/dncs-donna-brazile-denies-giving-hillary-clinton-early-access-to-town-hall-question

[melman]

39. Right

Totally innocent.

So then why does she regret it so much?

[SunSeeker]

41. Because Russians, Trump and BoBs played it up to hurt Dems/Hillary. nt

[melman]

42. lol

[Gravitycollapse]

43. Sending debate questions to your preferred candidate is shady bullshit.

I don't care how you try to rationalize it.

[SunSeeker]

56. Putin thanks you for continuing to push his meme.

Him and Trump luuurv the discord.

[DeeDeeNY]

44. Her responses when first accused were denial and making fun of Trump

When he first accused her of giving Hillary the answers and she was questioned by an interviewer, her flippant answer was along the lines of "you really think they would give me the questions in advance? I'm just not that important." It was crushing when Wikileaks proved her a liar. It put doubts in people's minds that maybe Trump wasn't so paranoid, and what else were the Democrats were lying about? The worst part was that eve if Hillary had seen her emails it wouldn't have mattered because she needed no help to win the debates anyway.

[7962]

46. Best post of the thread!

It seems few others are seeing the "big picture" as you did.
I get being supportive, but screw ups like this created a lot of doubt in the minds of many on the fence.

[DeeDeeNY]

54. Thanks. I remember people's reactions when that came out.

Once the first doubt creeps in, it's tough.

[LisaL]

48. She didn't send any questions for debates with Trump.

The questions she send were for primary debates with Sanders.

[DeeDeeNY]

55. it didn't even matter at that point which debate

Trump's accusations now seemed possible.

[Vinnie From Indy]

52. Go away Donna!

Just go away!

[Blue Idaho]

53. Here's what I don't understand...

She could not have sent HRC the "answers" because the answers had to be Hillary's. Sending the topics make no sense either - almost anyone with an IQ above 80 could have guessed the areas that were to be discussed. The same things that were being discussed daily in speeches and interviews.

The only thing Brazile did - was to show her lack of trust in Candidate Clinton to handle herself presidentially while showing herself to be a person of poor judgement. Dumb move.

[demmiblue]

59. Self-deleting... more important things to worry about.

Brazile: Sending Clinton town hall topics mistake I will forever regret
Source: The Hill



Donna Brazile says passing along a list of topics for a TV town hall event to Hillary Clinton’s campaign was “a mistake I will forever regret.”

Brazile, who was the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) interim chairwoman this summer and is a former CNN contributor, opened up about last year’s election in a Time magazine essay.

“My job was to make all our Democratic candidates look good, and I worked closely with both campaigns to make that happen,” she wrote. “But sending those emails was a mistake I will forever regret.”

WikiLeaks in October published emails purportedly stolen from Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, which included messages from Brazile to Clinton’s campaign containing information on what would be asked during two town hall debates between Clinton and her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

Read more: http://thehill.com/media/324580-brazile-sending-clinton-town-hall-topics-mistake-i-will-forever-regret


We can and we will do better than this.

Let's go Perez... you've got this!