Poll: Romney preferred over Obama to handle the economy

[Herlong]

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Source:

WASHINGTON – Despite concerted Democratic attacks on his business record, Republican challenger Mitt Romney scores a significant advantage over President Obama when it comes to managing the economy, reducing the federal budget deficit and creating jobs, a national USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds.


By more than 2-1, 63%-29%, those surveyed say Romney's background in business, including his tenure at the private equity firm Bain Capital, would cause him to make good decisions, not bad ones, in dealing with the nation's economic problems over the next four years.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-07-23/poll-romney-obama-economy/56439758/1

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Help me. The country I live in is full of nuts!

[Kalidurga]

1. So people think that Romney would be a good Outsourcer in Chief?

This really makes no sense. I think the worst person to put in charge of the economic direction of this country is a vulture capitalist. Perhaps the 63% are just not paying attention.

[olddad56]

6. I think the people surveryed were Chinese businessmen.

[Brigid]

11. You win this thread.

[smirkymonkey]

63. I'll second that.

WTF are people thinking?? Or are they thinking. Excuse me, I am going to go bang my head against a walll now.

[xtraxritical]

65. Just yesterday I saw the exact reverse of this in another poll. So far I can't refind it.

[ThePhilosopher04]

2. Highly suspect poll if those are the numbers

nm

[Jessy169]

48. That makes two of us

My reaction to these poll numbers: Yeah, right, tell me another one.

I got my BA degree in Public Relations from a university that had (and probably still has) a very respectable PR program. PR is all about molding public opinion, of course, and polls -- fake polls to be more specific -- are one of the "tools of the trade". There are many ways to get the numbers you want, not necessarily the numbers that accurately reflect the situation. An ally or somebody who Romney campaign may have slipped a cool million to could easily come out with a poll like this. Polling companies are in it for the money most often. Be suspicious of all polls that don't have multiple sources that generally support the same numbers. I wonder what the margin of error is on this particular poll? Did they publish that?

[KurtNYC]

88. the question wasn't asked in a head to head format

It was a stacked stand alone question:

"Would Mitt Romney's background in business, including his tenure at the private equity firm Bain Capital, would cause him to make good decisions, not bad ones, in dealing with the nation's economic problems?"

Then USA Today jumps magically to: Romney preferred 2 to 1.

[Flatpicker]

3. you can't fix stupid n/t

[asjr]

4. BS

[aggiesal]

5. I wondering ...

Who did they ask? (Scared people)!
and
How did they ask them? Similar to the following:
"With Obama's dismal record of only creating 3 million jobs over the past 3.5 years,
don't you agree that RMoney would create at least 3 million during the next 4 years?

We're talking Gallup Poll here.

[elleng]

8. Right,

and 'assuming' that because he's incredibly wealthy, he'd magically do the same for OTHERS, like U.S.A!

[aggiesal]

20. I believe it's . . .

all in the way you "FRAME" the questions.

I believe you can get the result you want just by "FRAMING"
the question to get the answer you want.

In this case, I don't believe Gallup was expecting such a
lopsided result, but I'm sure they were looking for a
53-47 type result.

These results basically throws the poll as unbelievable.

[elleng]

23. Yes, 'framing,' in polls, is virtually everything,

and this one is highly suspect.

[Politicalboi]

7. These nuts think

Rmoney is going to make them rich like him. We will all have tax havens around the globe, an elevator in every garage, and a dancing horse.

[elleng]

9. xactly!

Just said that, above!

[benld74]

10. Male Bovine Excrement

[elleng]

24. Oh, MBE!!!

[1620rock]

12. Sheer madness...WTF?

[Brigid]

13. Why would they prefer a clueless rich guy to fix the economy?

Isn't this how we got into this mess in the first place?

[dmosh42]

14. Another Bullshit poll paid by the 1% scumbags!

[xtraxritical]

67. Here's some serious polling data and President O. leads largely.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Vote straight Democratic.

[get the red out]

15. You would need a LOT of Democrats supporting Romney

to get to that poll margin. I just don't see that. Not unless they exclusively polled Kentucky or somewhere.

[Scootaloo]

16. I've seen polls saying the exact opposite

...Pretty much on every issue, every poll gets different results.

At the end of the day, polls are simply the opinions of those people interviewed, and cannot by any sense of logic be extended over a population of three hundred and eleven million people.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

17. USA Today is simplified "news" for the simple, and it tends to favor right-wing views

I have to wonder how the questions were phrased.

[Amonester]

18. Corporate USA yesterday and corporate gal-down polled...

mostly in red states to make sure the results got in their ways?

[demwing]

19. Your link is broken, correct link included:

here:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-07-23/poll-romney-obama-economy/56439758/1

[mzmolly]

21. Whose ecomony?

Mexico's?

[YankeyMCC]

22. I spoke to a small business owner over the weekend

who had lost everything due to an unexpected illness.

He's getting back on his feet largely due to Mass Health care, unemployment benefits and the somewhat better than national average state economy (in a state that is essential a single party Democratic state).

You know what he said to me about his downfall: "It's all the Democrats fault."

I said, "The Republicans want to take your health care away." (maybe a stretch since this is the State program not Federal but the theme is the same.)

His response: "Yeah, well except for that one thing."

I didn't go on, I had plenty of facts and I had no idea how to get past his 'certainty' about what he believed.

However, I am suspicious the poll refereed too in the OP isn't very accurate. Still there is a lot of delusion out there.

[Brigid]

57. So some Democrat made him ill?

What can I say but

[daybranch]

25. wasting our time

First I say why should we believe a poll saying just the opposite of what other polls found just a few days ago?

Second I say why would you ask such a voluminous question, which would tend to drum up support for the republiicans especially the part about reducing the deficit which I am sure is not a principal thought in the minds of the jobless.

Garbage in garbage out.

[SlimJimmy]

26. It's a poll of adults - not even registered voters. IOW, not worth the effort it took to print it.

The poll of 1,030 adults Thursday through Sunday has a margin of error of plus- or minus-4 percentage points.

[gkhouston]

80. "Adults"... as if they normally poll children!

"Okay, I'll tell you whether my refrigerator is running if you'll take this poll..."

[SlimJimmy]

82. As it relates to the election, simply polling adults and not *likely* voters is a waste of time.

[gkhouston]

85. Depends on what your goal is. That it's apparently not even registered voters

says to me that they wanted a certain result, and quickly. I wonder how many people they called (and later excluded) to get this result.

[SlimJimmy]

87. I don't know. But I can say with certainty that it doesn't come even close to matching the recent

polling that's been done. Using likely voters (or even registered voters) would have tightened it considerably.

[demwing]

27. Call me skeptical

there are no demographics attached to this poll, no MOE, and no details of any kind, except this headline encouraging remark:

"By more than 2-1, 63%-29%, those surveyed say Romney's background in business, including his tenure at the private equity firm Bain Capital, would cause him to make good decisions, not bad ones, in dealing with the nation's economic problems over the next four years"

Note that the article doesn't ask who is better on the economy.The question asked was essentially this: "Would Romney's experience help him run the economy?" 63% said yes, 29% said no. Was there a similar question asked about Obama? If not, it's unfair to compare the two on men on this metric.

BTW - USA Today has their head up their ass on their EC vote counter. The still have New Mexico and Pennsylvania as toss ups, despite wide margins of support for Obama in both states.

As always - Fuck The News!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. The bad news is that MSNBC pundits will be citing this poll tonight.

[progressivebydesign]

33. Yep... I'm so fucking sick of the billionaires in charge of the media.

I wonder HOW a Democrat can ever win an election again, between the "supreme" Court decision allowing Koch Bros and worse to donate billions, to the corporate consolidated media who wants NO regulations.

[zeemike]

40. they are just conditioning us for a Romney win.

And should they have to steal the election they will have a reason for you to believe it is legit...the meme will be that it is the economy stupid why people voted for him.

I sure am convinced that the fix is in and that we are now just seeing the explanation for electing a liar.

[SlimJimmy]

46. It was a poll of 1,030 adults with a MOE of +- 4 points

Call me skeptical
there are no demographics attached to this poll, no MOE, and no details of any kind, except this headline encouraging remark:

The poll of 1,030 adults Thursday through Sunday has a margin of error of plus- or minus-4 percentage points.

[demwing]

51. Cool, where did you catch that info?

I completely missed it

[SlimJimmy]

53. At this link.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-07-23/poll-romney-obama-economy/56439758/1

[demwing]

58. Yep. I missed it

I posted that link in Post #19. Now that you pointed it out, I can search for the quote and find it easily, but I swear I read that article three times and couldn't see the damn MOE, lol.

thanks!!

[SlimJimmy]

62. Hey, it happens. I'm glad you found it.

[razorman]

29. I'm tired of the economy being "handled". Detailed interference by people

only seems to make the problems worse. I just wish I had some sort of solution. But, I do not see a way out of our current economic woes during my lifetime.

[progressivebydesign]

30. Ok. If they truly believe Romney's better. Then they deserve to have their job sent to China.

I'm serious. I've given up wishing that average Americans would wise up and see that the candidate has destroyed so many small towns like Marion, Indiana, so that he and his pals can get even more filthy rich. I've given up believing that average folks would realize that if he did that to make his hundreds of millions, he will make it worse in he's in charge.

I've come to the conclusion with all the dumbfucks in America, that they actually deserve what they vote for. If you're more aware of who the Kardashian's are, and what Miley Cyrus wore to last night's awards, then you get what you deserve.

If you're too stupid to connect the dots that the Red States are basically welfare states, coming in at the lowest of any chart for health, education, employment, infant mortality, and that the Blue States are subsidizing your asses, then you deserve Romney. You deserve to have your job sent to China.. then you can wake the fuck up one day. Or you can go on like you are, blaming families who LOST everything because Bain and those like them have sent your fucking jobs to China after bankrupting your town.

They don't deserve anything more than what they voted for. I do not want Romney to win because America will become a third world country, where the Koch Bros and the billion-dollar-a-year traders on Wall Street have everything, and the elderly are eating dog food and dying because they can't afford heat in the winter. BUT... I will absolutely ENJOY the stunned faces and stupid facebook posts from the people too ignorant to figure out what the hell Romney is hiding and WHO made sure he won the primaries.

[smirkymonkey]

66. +1000

I'm feeling a little vengeful toward all the willing idiots today too.

[ieoeja]

31. Their story does not support their headline.

63% say Romney's background in business would cause him to make good decisions in dealing with the nation's economic problems.
29% say it would cause him to make bad decisions

The only thing showing a 2-1 margin in here is comparing Romney (good decisions) to Romney (bad decisions). Even there it does not ask if they believe Romney would actually make good decisions. It appears instead to be asking how his business experience would affect that decisions making ability. I am sure many people answered "good" while believing he would make bad decisions, but do so in despite of his work experience.


And buried at the end of the story : "the race stands at 46% Obama, 45% Romney."

[speedoo]

38. Excellent point.

We really need to see exactly what questions were asked, among other things. USA Today is not a reliable source for this kind of information.

[mountain grammy]

34. USA Today/Gallup Poll?

Really?

[librechik]

35. cuz if I give Romney my Social Security, he will turn it into 200 million dollars!

Obama won't even give me a COLA rise!

[heaven05]

36. IDIOTS!!!!!!!

[bowens43]

37. Only an idiot would think that a country shoud be run like a business........

[L0oniX]

39. ...because rich people care so much about the 98%.

[sa2968]

41. Polls, polls, polls

I've seen other polls which say that people prefer Obama to Romney on the economy. All these polls are useless.

[dogknob]

42. Oddly enough, a large majority of the same survey group...

...feared arrest for not acting convincingly sad at Kim Jong Il's funeral.

EDIT: I've clicked your link a few times over the past hour and all I get is a blank page on USAToday's site. Even tried it in different browsers (my main browser is Opera, which YouTube HATES)

[handmade34]

43. not that empirical facts mean anything... but

we still need to try to get across to people the facts, figures, charts, graphs, etc... that inform us w/o doubt that democrats are much better for the economy than republicans... there is endless information and fact...








http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-22/stocks-return-more-with-dem-in-white-house-bgov-barometer.html

?w=450&h=243

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[Bainbridge Bear]

44. I agree

When you can find this kind of support, after all we have endured, for a practitioner of "vulture capitalism" who will do everything he can to ransack what is left of the 99% then it feels like more evidence for the end of our Republic. Mitt Romney will further the devolution of the U.S. into the Corporate States of America. He is a despicable man who will say anything to get into the Oval Office.

[penndragon69]

45. It's an absolute FACT !

That is, if you believe the poll results of a RIGHT wing
media organization!

[TBF]

47. So they polled everyone in Romney's country club? nt

[Gman]

49. Yup, he'll make good decisions

for himself and his buds.

[ProSense]

50. Where

By more than 2-1, 63%-29%, those surveyed say Romney's background in business, including his tenure at the private equity firm Bain Capital, would cause him to make good decisions, not bad ones, in dealing with the nation's economic problems over the next four years.

...is the full poll?

It seems the MSM is again engaging in creative spin with the head line and the text to aid Romney.

I mean, that shows a response to a specific question, those who believe the experiecne will help and those who do not (still unbelievable), which is not a contrast to Obama.

I like Ben LaBolt's response later in the article.

Bain is not going away.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021007300

[liberal N proud]

52. The title of the poll results should be "Poll shows Americans are Stoopid!"

[SlimJimmy]

55. My title would be:

"Never poll adults and not likely voters if you want an accurate result."

[Kolesar]

54. President Obama is running ads about Romney/Bain outsourcing and killing jobs

and the President is gaining in Ohio. Romney's negatives are going up.

[DallasNE]

56. This Is Unreal

We are basically still operating under Bush's policies, especially on taxes, because Congress blocks every attempt to create jobs, etc. and Romney would bring back full bore all of the failed Bush policies and the American people are buying the Romney proposals, whatever they are. Give me a break. Within 10 months of taking office Romney would have this country mired in recession and his remedy would be to end Medicare and turn it into a voucher system where the voucher would barely cover half of the cost of private insurance. And that is just for starters. Just look to Spain if you want to see what austerity looks and feels like. That is the Romney model and it ain't pretty. Poverty levels are already at the level they were in the 1960's and heading south rapidly. In other words, we have already lost 50 years of progress with no turnaround in sight.

One of the core issues is the data the American people are getting. Nobody is giving context to what is being said so they don't know what or who to believe so they are believing the worst case scenario.

[demwing]

59. I disagree that no one is giving context

Team Obama has put out some AMAZING ads


but if you were referring to the media, well as always : Fuck "The News"

[DallasNE]

72. Two Points

I was talking about the media. There needs to be a reliable, neutral source. The so-called factcheckers fail on that account as well. They mostly side with Romney using incomplete data to support their "findings".

I don't live in a battleground State so I don't see that many political ads.

[demwing]

73. Oh yeah, 100% agreed

"The News" media fails in every way, unless you judge them as propagandists, in which case they do a smashing job. First class liars, without a doubt.


As always - Fuck "The News"

[DCBob]

60. Push poll.

[RBInMaine]

61. This is skewed and spun corporate shit. Notice the wording. What s crock of crap. A BS push poll.

[Doremus]

64. Gallup. Nuff said.

[NYC Liberal]

68. Bullshit on USA Today. That's not what their poll says.

It says 63% think Romney's business background would "cause him to make good decisions" about the economy.

The poll is NOT a comparison between Romney and Obama.

[yurbud]

69. good decisions for WHO?

they will certainly make life easier for the wealthiest. The effect on the rest of us won't be so pleasant.

[SemperEadem]

70. scraping the barrel, are they?

The poll of 1,030 adults Thursday through Sunday has a margin of error of plus- or minus-4 percentage points.

It took them 4 days to find 1,000 people. Where were the calls based? They didn't call me.

What these 1030 people don't get is that if mittiot takes over, they can say goodbye to a lot more of their income because he knows who to manage the economy for the 1% and for corporate raiders who shake down companies for their assets and saddles them with liability to the point where they have to lay off people and file for bankruptcy, taking the workers' pensions with them.

[Stargleamer]

71. Because tax cuts for the wealthy. . .

and cuts in spending that benefit those who are struggling, are what this country so desperately needs!

[cbrer]

74. Polling conducted in the Hamptons and Beverly Hills

I don't buy this bullshit for $00.02!

This stinks worse than a landfill in Delhi.

[high density]

75. Has Rmoney outlined how to "handle" the economy?

All I've heard is shitcan Obamacare and more tax cuts. We've already seen over the past decade how this does not produce jobs or help budget deficits.

[Turbineguy]

76. Yes, he's the obvious choice

along with putting pedophiles in charge of elementary schools and rapists in charge of women's shelters.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

77. I call Bullshit...

A poll with of 1000 people deserves a headline and worst of all an OP?

This paragraph from the article seems more important and relavent, but frankly the entire article stinks
of RW Bullshit.

"While Mitt Romney has claimed for the past year that he knows how to create jobs because he did it as a corporate buyout specialist, Americans are just now learning about his real record — that he profited off of bankrupting companies and outsourcing jobs," LaBolt says. "That's not an economic philosophy they want to see in the Oval Office, and the more they are learning about his record, the less supportive they are."
Their contest is close: 57% say Obama has the personality and leadership qualities a president should have; 54% say that of Romney. Forty-seven percent say they agree with Obama on the issues that matter most to them; 45% say that of Romney.

[Zoeisright]

78. My God Americans are stupid.

Short memories, no ability to reason, and fucking ignorant.

[cigsandcoffee]

90. Which country are you from? n/t

[AtheistCrusader]

79. Preferred by who? The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement?

[YOHABLO]

81. Oh Let's Face It ... People don't read period

Many many people in this country hardly pick up a news paper. They don't read! Too time consuming. Now if it has to do with their buddies texting them, well that's about the extent of their reading habits. We live in a country of idiots .. increasingly. So I would like to know where/ and who are these folks (USA Today) polling? I never got a call. To believe anything that right-wing rag says is stupidity plain and simple. I never read their trash.

[eringer]

83. Lets Break this Down...

managing the economy: Destroy PBS and Planned Parenthood. Allow the rich to keep their wealth tax-free into perpetuity. Long term Goal -- disestablish the middle class.
reducing the federal budget deficit: Shredding the safety net for grandma.
creating jobs: Hiring folks at below minimum wage to operate water cannons to blow the homeless (our "new" poor class) off the city streets every morning.

[Yavin4]

84. If This Poll Is Accurate, Then The American People Deserve The Economic Beating That They Wil Get

under a President Romney administration. I have lost all sympathy and patience for the American people. If they buy into all that Tea party/Fox News bullshit, then they're going to be destroyed, just like they were hammered under Bush.

I'm done with them.

[Evasporque]

86. outsource and liquidate....Rmoney....nt

[MADem]

89. You can wipe your ass with anything Gallup puts out. Might be a bit scratchy.

But that is all it's good for...

[center rising]

91. What a bucket of shit this poll is!!!

[and-justice-for-all]

92. The reality is that Obama's plan is working...

and I can attest to that. It did not take me long to find a job, two in fact, and one of which I turned done to do the distance I would have had to drive daily.

I thin the poll is bullshit, Robocorp has only one of thinking about the economy and that is how much of a return he can get off the backs of the middle class and the poor. A business mogul is not what we need in the White House, a rich white asshole is not the answer but is however the PROBLEM.