Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:00 PM Apr 2017

Spicer Says Hitler Didnt Use Chemical Weapons 'In The Way Assad Used Them' (VIDEO)

Source: TPM

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday that not even Adolf Hitler used chemical weapons. The remark was striking given the German ruler's infamous legacy of killing millions of Jews, many in gas chambers.

During his daily press briefing Tuesday, Spicer was asked why he thought Russia would drop its support for Syrian President Bashar Assad after an alleged poison gas attack last week, despite the decades-long relationship between the two nations.

“I think a couple things. You look — we didn’t use chemical weapons in World War II,” Spicer began. “You had a — someone as despicable as Hitler, who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons. So you have to, if you're Russia, ask yourself, is this a country that you — and a regime that you want to align yourself with?”

In fact, Hitler killed millions of innocent civilians, including German Jews, during World War II using poisons like Zyklon-B and carbon monoxide in concentration camps.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/spicer-says-hitler-didnt-use-poison-gas



This White House is just freaking nuts. They have to go.
55 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Spicer Says Hitler Didnt Use Chemical Weapons 'In The Way Assad Used Them' (VIDEO) (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 OP
Wow. I don't think Spicer knows basic world history. The stupidity of skylucy Apr 2017 #1
He went to private schools, private college as well. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #53
Is Sphincter a Holocaust denier? JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #2
you gotta wonder, he issued a clarification later but that he seemed so clueless is stunning Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #4
"he brought them into the Holocaust centers"... WTF??? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #3
Holocaust centers? mountain grammy Apr 2017 #5
"Holocaust Centers" Madam Mossfern Apr 2017 #11
"Drawing a contrast"??? JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #12
"- he brought them into the Holocaust centers, I understand that" - no, I don't think ya do, Spicer. Leghorn21 Apr 2017 #21
He made it worse "innocent people" as opposed to those taken to the "holocaust centers"??? karynnj Apr 2017 #22
I won't type what I'm thinking. "Holocaust Centers"??????????? Solly Mack Apr 2017 #23
Spicey, when you find yourself in a hole you dug yourself, stop digging. George II Apr 2017 #29
AND can he please STOP saying Assiat?? for Assad a kennedy Apr 2017 #6
I think he's talking about trump and slightly mispronouncing "asshat". George II Apr 2017 #30
Ha ha.......eom a kennedy Apr 2017 #38
He is the dumbest press secretary ever, and he has some competition. Alice11111 Apr 2017 #7
Why do they even try? louis-t Apr 2017 #8
He tried to clarify by saying "he brought them into the Holocaust centers" DesertRat Apr 2017 #9
Oh my sweet Jeebus.... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #46
Spicer has to go! DesertRat Apr 2017 #48
Every time these idiots have a microphone, they use like as a shovel Dopers_Greed Apr 2017 #10
You can never go wrong defending Hitler. 6000eliot Apr 2017 #13
Reminds me of an old song JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #16
Excellent! 6000eliot Apr 2017 #35
Wow. Watching Too Much Neo-Nazi Propaganda? TomCADem Apr 2017 #14
"Innocent people" as opposed to...??? Iggo Apr 2017 #15
Spicer's unspoken reprehensible thought is this: Assad used chemical weapons on KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #49
The Hitler Rule Botany Apr 2017 #17
So fucked up on so many levels Kber Apr 2017 #18
Heck, Hitler loved gas chambers so much he even had a mobile version: dalton99a Apr 2017 #19
I've got about 3 million reasons why you're horrifically wrong there, Spicey. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #20
Where the hell was United when we seriously needed someone to drag him out of the room?? n/t dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #47
Hands down thread winner! Sincere hat tip! - nt KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #50
Sean, google IG Farben! muntrv Apr 2017 #24
Hitler had gas chambers and ovens Goprox Apr 2017 #25
Yeah, but Hitler only used them on Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc. Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #26
How much you want to bet that he was trying to use something Bannon told him to say. grantcart Apr 2017 #27
Entirely possible, but Spicer has proven himself quite capable of incredible feats of foot-eating. truthisfreedom Apr 2017 #32
Mattis just said "Even Hitler never used chemical weapons on the battlefield" grantcart Apr 2017 #37
I bet you're right renate Apr 2017 #42
I was having flashbacks to 2002-03, when Bush Regime goombahs tried to KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #51
HOLY SHIT! This guy, yeah this guy spicer IS the definition of a fucking moron. Javaman Apr 2017 #28
Does he not know about the gas chambers? kimbutgar Apr 2017 #31
Their narrative is that the Tomahawk attack had to be done. It wasn't a distraction from Russia. Thor_MN Apr 2017 #45
I guess to him it's like telling a joke - it's all in the way you do it jberryhill Apr 2017 #33
Charles Pierce on Spicer needing to go Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #34
He shouldn't be Press Secretary one more second... chelsea0011 Apr 2017 #39
But who else .. cannabis_flower Apr 2017 #41
yes... the big question though is-- do we want someone more or less bumbling than Spicer Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #44
Despicable, Deplorable & Offensive lucca18 Apr 2017 #36
Needed to restore his street cred with thhe alt-right, after Pathwalker Apr 2017 #40
I thought Tillerson was stupid and dumb...Well this is a new low, or high in dumbness Stuart G Apr 2017 #43
Keep digging, Sean. Mz Pip Apr 2017 #52
Neither Hitler nor Assad considered their gas targets "my people" jmowreader Apr 2017 #54
yes, good points. Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #55

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
1. Wow. I don't think Spicer knows basic world history. The stupidity of
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:03 PM
Apr 2017

Trump and his Trumpeters is truly amazing.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
53. He went to private schools, private college as well.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:12 PM
Apr 2017
He joined the Naval reserves as a public affairs officer; he currently holds the rank of commander.

In 2012, he received a master's degree in national security and strategic studies from the Naval War College.
Wiki


so I cannot believe he missed the history of the Holocaust, hell, it was on a thousand PBS and the History Channel shows for years.
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
3. "he brought them into the Holocaust centers"... WTF???
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:04 PM
Apr 2017
Asked to clarify his comment later in the briefing, Spicer said, "I think when you come to sarin gas, there was no — he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing.”

“There was not — he brought them into the Holocaust centers, I understand that," he added. "But I’m saying that in the way Assad used them, where he went into towns, dropped them down to innocent — into the middle of towns. It was brought — the use of it. And I appreciate the clarification there, that was not the intent.”

Spicer later said in a statement: "In no way was I trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust, however, I was trying to draw a contrast of the tactic of using airplanes to drop chemical weapons on innocent people."



Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
21. "- he brought them into the Holocaust centers, I understand that" - no, I don't think ya do, Spicer.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:24 PM
Apr 2017

I don't - aw, forget it. I'm out of words.
"Treblinka Holocaust Center"
"Sobibor Holocaust Center"
wtff

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
22. He made it worse "innocent people" as opposed to those taken to the "holocaust centers"???
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:38 PM
Apr 2017

What about Jared's family members? Were they not innocent?

If Ivanka is all powerful, how is he not gone. Could it be no one else is willing to be Trump's spokesperson. In this case, this is one of the few times where is trouble is not trying to defend something indefensible that Trump did --- BOTH comments are just on him. He should already have been fired for embarrassing a WH more than any previous WH spokesman ever did.

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. Spicey, when you find yourself in a hole you dug yourself, stop digging.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:11 PM
Apr 2017

Unbelievable that he called concentration camps where several million people died "holocaust centers"!

That's like calling a state's gas chamber an "eternal sleep center"!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
7. He is the dumbest press secretary ever, and he has some competition.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:06 PM
Apr 2017

I can't tell the difference in him and Melissa McCarthy's parady of him.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
46. Oh my sweet Jeebus....
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 07:35 PM
Apr 2017

I had heard around Twitter something about Holocaust centers, but could not believe it, I thought someone was exaggerating.
until your clip.

what the hell do Jared and Ivanka think of their anti-semantic father?
surely someone had to clue him in as to how bad this is?

JenniferJuniper

(4,507 posts)
16. Reminds me of an old song
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:15 PM
Apr 2017

I like Hitler, Jolly Jolly Hitler
I like Hitler and Mussolini too

I like Franco in Spain
And I'll have to maintain
That Batista was
Really quite all right

Trujillo was my man
Henry Ford would understand
What this country
really needs is apartheid

Loyally we Birch along
Birch along, Birch along
Loyaly we Birch along
Back to the good old days

God save the king
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
49. Spicer's unspoken reprehensible thought is this: Assad used chemical weapons on
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 08:32 AM
Apr 2017

innocent people. Yeah, Hitler may have used chemical weapons but . . . not on innocent people.

News flash: Hitler was worse than Assad. Hitler was worse than Saddam Hussein. Hitler was worse than Stalin. Maybe, just maybe, Pol Pot was as bad as Hitler. But there is no way possible to rehabilitate the historical Hitler, imo. 80 million "innocents" died in World War II.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
17. The Hitler Rule
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:16 PM
Apr 2017

Hitler Rule
The law that states that all persons comparing their opponents in an argument or debate to the infamous Nazi tyrant Adolf Hitler (or the Nazi party) is a tool, jerk, douche, etc. This person immediately forfeits the argument.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hitler%20Rule

*****

Just how strong is the neo nazi influence in the Trump White House?

"Holocaust Centers"

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
26. Yeah, but Hitler only used them on Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:56 PM
Apr 2017

He wasn't dropping them on actual innocent people like Assad.

Happy Jews Killed Jesus Sunday, Merica!!! Wink Wink!



truthisfreedom

(23,139 posts)
32. Entirely possible, but Spicer has proven himself quite capable of incredible feats of foot-eating.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:21 PM
Apr 2017

Here's a fun quote:

"Never thought I would say this, but Sean Spicer should go back to talking about crowd size at the inauguration," added Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, a dig referencing the press secretary's rocky introduction to the White House press corps.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
37. Mattis just said "Even Hitler never used chemical weapons on the battlefield"
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:36 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 11, 2017, 05:47 PM - Edit history (1)

I am guessing that Bannon put out a memo with a talking point and Spicer mashed it up.

btw using "Hitler" in comparison with Russia is almost, not quite but almost, as bad as using Hitler in a comparison with Israel or Germany

renate

(13,776 posts)
42. I bet you're right
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:50 PM
Apr 2017

I feel weird defending Sean Spicer but it's hard to imagine that he decided to freelance a defense of Adolf Hitler on his own initiative.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
51. I was having flashbacks to 2002-03, when Bush Regime goombahs tried to
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 08:37 AM
Apr 2017

insinuate that Saddam Hussein was as bad as, or even worse than, Hitler.

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
28. HOLY SHIT! This guy, yeah this guy spicer IS the definition of a fucking moron.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:01 PM
Apr 2017

on another site I stated, "it's as if they gave the job of press secretary to the drunk guy at the end of the bar".

No, I was wrong, they gave the job to the guy out in the gutter face down in his own puke.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
31. Does he not know about the gas chambers?
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:15 PM
Apr 2017

The stupid in him hurts my intelligence that he represents the chump adminstration.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
45. Their narrative is that the Tomahawk attack had to be done. It wasn't a distraction from Russia.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 06:51 PM
Apr 2017

It was a highly successful mission against >someone worse than Hitler.<

Except that it didn't, it was, it was a failure, and they are both bad.

Hitler probably wins at being worst based on volume, but that's splitting hairs and doesn't fit their narrative.

Back to the point, did Russia help Trump win? (How could people that are such colossal fuckups win without help?)

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
39. He shouldn't be Press Secretary one more second...
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:38 PM
Apr 2017

the fact that trump hasn't already fired his ass says all you need to know how fucked up this administration is.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
44. yes... the big question though is-- do we want someone more or less bumbling than Spicer
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 05:15 PM
Apr 2017

presenting the Trump White House to the world? I'm not sure we want someone who's a smarter liar. But OTOH, they do represent the USA.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
40. Needed to restore his street cred with thhe alt-right, after
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:40 PM
Apr 2017

they got pissed over the Syria strike. This wasn't a gaffe - it was done with malice aforethought. Like FDR said: "Nothing happens in politics by mistake."

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
43. I thought Tillerson was stupid and dumb...Well this is a new low, or high in dumbness
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 04:53 PM
Apr 2017
...................................................................................................

what an incredible show of stupid..stupid..stupid..No, this show is not made up..This statement is all over the news, all over the world..Every country will laugh at how stupid this representative of the U.S.A is

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
54. Neither Hitler nor Assad considered their gas targets "my people"
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:50 PM
Apr 2017

Nor did Saddam consider the Kurds his people. This made the gassings okay in their eyes but not in the eyes of anyone else in the world.

As far as battlefield use of gas...Hitler had a chemical warfare program. The nerve gases Tabun and Sarin were accidentally invented by Bayer chemist Gerard Schroeder...Schroeder was an insecticide chemist, was trying to make a better insecticide, and invented something that killed people as easily as it did bugs. Hitler didn't use chemicals in Germany on the battlefield for three reasons: he didn't want to gas "his people," he was afraid of British retaliation (the Brits invented chemical warfare and had a huge program) and he'd been gassed himself during World War I.

None of which excuses Spicer's clear Godwin's Law violation.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Spicer Says Hitler Didnt ...