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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 11:54 AM Apr 2017

Elephants pass intelligence test with profound implications for our understanding of the species

Source: The Independent

Elephants have passed a test of intelligence which scientists say has “profound” implications for our understanding of their mental capabilities.

They were found to be capable of performing a task that showed they have a level of self-understanding that is rare in the animal world and defeats humans until they are about two years old.

The scientists behind the study said animals capable of this kind of behaviour may also be better at empathising and be able to consider someone else’s perspective.

And that could have implications for the way conflicts between humans and elephants should be handled in places where the two species are competing for land and resources.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/elephants-intelligence-test-pass-profound-implications-understanding-species-dolphins-great-apes-a7680566.html



Elephants have always been a favorite of mine.
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Elephants pass intelligence test with profound implications for our understanding of the species (Original Post) NWCorona Apr 2017 OP
Memory refresher: Elephants Recognize Selves in Mirror, Study Says Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #1
And one of them can do a self portrait sakabatou Apr 2017 #9
I love elephants! Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #2
I concur! Beartracks Apr 2017 #26
I do, too. Have you ever seen the photographic collection Ashes and Snow? JudyM Apr 2017 #39
Very beautiful, thanks for sharing JudyM Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #41
I love elephants. CrispyQ Apr 2017 #3
And they love to cuddle!... Aristus Apr 2017 #14
Lucky guy! CrispyQ Apr 2017 #16
Thats just TOO cool madokie Apr 2017 #25
If we had a cute video of the year award on DU, this would be right up there. JudyM Apr 2017 #40
Baby 'phants! Nothing cuter! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2017 #28
Elephants are amazing, we HAVE to protect them!!! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #4
Great post. byronius Apr 2017 #5
Footfall Binkie The Clown Apr 2017 #6
Rods from God captain queeg Apr 2017 #38
Elephants everywhere are tired of their image being co-opted by a certain political party. spiderpig Apr 2017 #7
Love the animal. lark Apr 2017 #8
How the hell did they get such a magnificent creature to represent them? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #22
Donkeys are wonderful too! Bluepinky Apr 2017 #31
Here's to the heroic donkey! spiderpig Apr 2017 #33
Thank you for that, so cute!! Bluepinky Apr 2017 #42
Thank you. lark Apr 2017 #34
"able to consider someone elses perspective." Soxfan58 Apr 2017 #10
Isn't that the truth! Duppers Apr 2017 #15
Wouldn't take much. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2017 #29
I'm not surprised. lunamagica Apr 2017 #11
African & Indian elephants smart enough to know & share with other elephants,humans aren't friends. Sunlei Apr 2017 #12
Dumbass... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #32
" conflicts between humans and elephants" ? Moostache Apr 2017 #13
2 elephants reunited after 20 years Number9Dream Apr 2017 #17
So beautiful Blazesweetie Apr 2017 #21
Welcome to DU Number9Dream Apr 2017 #27
This makes me tear up... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #30
how elephants deal with electric fences oldcynic Apr 2017 #18
They are a totally inappropriate symbol for the GOP, which has neither brains nor empathy. milestogo Apr 2017 #19
Now if we could only get Trump and his team to pass even simple...... machoneman Apr 2017 #20
I would literally vote for an elephant before most Republicans adigal Apr 2017 #23
I was reading a book about how elephants were trained in 1200ad kimbutgar Apr 2017 #24
Can they join Mensa now? Kablooie Apr 2017 #35
They could carry locks Apr 2017 #36
I know this is a snark post and all, but read up on the first battle of Panipat sometime cemaphonic Apr 2017 #43
Jeez, Delphinus Apr 2017 #37

Judi Lynn

(160,501 posts)
1. Memory refresher: Elephants Recognize Selves in Mirror, Study Says
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:00 PM
Apr 2017

Elephants Recognize Selves in Mirror, Study Says
John Roach
for National Geographic News
October 30, 2006

Elephants can recognize themselves in mirrors, according to a new study. Humans, great apes, and dolphins are the only other animals known to possess this form of self-awareness.

All of these animals also lead socially complex lives and display empathy—concern and understanding of another's feelings—researchers report.

"There seems to be some correlation between an ability to recognize oneself in a mirror and higher forms of social complexity," said Joshua Plotnik, a graduate student in psychology at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.

To assess elephants' self-awareness, Plotnik and his colleagues tested three adult female Asian elephants in front of a mirror.

All three pachyderms sized up their mirror images by inspecting behind the mirror, rubbing their trunks the length of the mirror, or probing their mouths with their trunks to see if their reflections did the same.

One elephant named Happy also passed the so-called mark test, repeatedly touching her trunk to a white X painted on her forehead that was only visible in the mirror.

More:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/10/061030-asian-elephants.html

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
2. I love elephants!
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:02 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Thu Apr 13, 2017, 09:31 PM - Edit history (1)

They are amazing creatures. May humans wake-up and start living in harmony with nature and animals, instead of trying to conquer.

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
39. I do, too. Have you ever seen the photographic collection Ashes and Snow?
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:37 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Thu Apr 13, 2017, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)

I know you would love it, Equinox Moon. https://gregorycolbert.com/ashesandsnowGallery.php

CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
3. I love elephants.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:06 PM
Apr 2017

And baby elephants are the cutest babies on the planet.











In a just universe, our entire species would be judged on how it treated the others we inhabit this planet with.

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
40. If we had a cute video of the year award on DU, this would be right up there.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:44 PM
Apr 2017

Thanks for posting this adorableness!

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
4. Elephants are amazing, we HAVE to protect them!!!
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:12 PM
Apr 2017

Mankind's intelligence is otherwise very much in doubt.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. Footfall
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:38 PM
Apr 2017
Intelligent elephants from another planet invade Earth.

Ironically, before the story opens, the dominant species on their home planet had destroyed itself by ruining the environment, at which point the elephants salvaged their technology and replaced them as the dominant species.

captain queeg

(10,131 posts)
38. Rods from God
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:19 PM
Apr 2017

Isn't that where the idea of using asteroids as weapon began, and of course the military thinks of just putting stuff in orbit so they can drop it where they want at about 40,000 mph?

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
7. Elephants everywhere are tired of their image being co-opted by a certain political party.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 12:46 PM
Apr 2017

Ironically, a party which espouses activities that contribute to their extinction.

I adore elephants.

Dumbo scarred me for life when I first saw it at about age 3. Animal abuse, separation anxiety, ridicule of the "different".

As we know, elephants are noble, majestic, intelligent creatures that most humans should aspire to emulate.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
22. How the hell did they get such a magnificent creature to represent them?
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 05:38 PM
Apr 2017

and we were left with the donkey, sometimes referred to as an ass.?

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
31. Donkeys are wonderful too!
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 11:09 PM
Apr 2017

I'm an animal lover and believe that all animals have their place in the world. It's hard to top the intelligence and magnificence of elephants, but I would bet that lovingly raised donkeys can be affectionate too.

lark

(23,078 posts)
34. Thank you.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:52 AM
Apr 2017

I've long wondered about that. My friends have donkeys and love them, but they wouldn't be my first choice for a political symbol. We should have the bald eagle, or wolf.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
15. Isn't that the truth!
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 02:41 PM
Apr 2017

My Lab has more understanding, compassion than any Rethugian I know!

Elephants, like dolphins deserve FAR more respect than most humans give them. Most animals do.

According to some sites, at least 30,000 elephants are killed each year. China is banning ivory, as if they won't import illegal ivory.

I donate to stop the slaughter - to save The Elephants and Defenders of Wildlife. I recently made one rethug neighbor uncomfortable when she was talking about her ivory. We must speak up for these intelligent co-inhabitants of our planet.




Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. African & Indian elephants smart enough to know & share with other elephants,humans aren't friends.
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 02:23 PM
Apr 2017

Poor elephants are so stressed around humans and their vehicles.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
32. Dumbass...
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 11:15 PM
Apr 2017

...humans.

I liked how the elephant almost flattened the motorcycle with its massive foot.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. " conflicts between humans and elephants" ?
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 02:25 PM
Apr 2017

These conflicts will be resolved the exact same way ALL conflicts between man and nature are today - with brute force, no empathy and zero foresight or consideration for anything beyond the next 12 months.

Humanity itself has become an ecological terrorist. These studies for elephants' intelligence and capacity for feeling and thought will be the next thing to be banned from discussion.

Humans suck. The sooner we are all gone, the better off the ecology of the planet will become....sadly, we are going to be taking down everything larger than a beetle with us...

Blazesweetie

(42 posts)
21. So beautiful
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 05:27 PM
Apr 2017

Thanks for posting this. I've seen it before but it never gets old seeing their reunion. The shot at the end with Shirley and Jenny hugging, with their trunks wrapped around each other just made my day.

oldcynic

(385 posts)
18. how elephants deal with electric fences
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 03:56 PM
Apr 2017

Farmers in sub-Saharan Africa put up electric fences to keep elephants out of their plantations of fruit trees. The elephants placed tree branches and brush against the fences and, using them as protection, pushed the fences over before strolling in to eat the fruit. Don't think they needed a scientist to tell them they were intelligent.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
20. Now if we could only get Trump and his team to pass even simple......
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 05:01 PM
Apr 2017

intelligence tests we'd....

Oh, Fuggit! They are dumber than a box of rocks!

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
23. I would literally vote for an elephant before most Republicans
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 06:42 PM
Apr 2017

At least you get empathy with these magnificent creatures.
I adore them.

kimbutgar

(21,103 posts)
24. I was reading a book about how elephants were trained in 1200ad
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 07:47 PM
Apr 2017

And they were saying they had personalities and until they get to know you they would blow dirt in your face while you rode on them. They are highly trainable to also do work such as clearing brush and taking down trees. They also helped in constructing plalaces in Asia.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
43. I know this is a snark post and all, but read up on the first battle of Panipat sometime
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 11:48 PM
Apr 2017

Elephants don't like explosives (who knew?) and having panicked elephants in your army is more of a liability than asset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Panipat

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