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Sedona

(3,769 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:32 AM Apr 2017

With a Hollywood Writers Strike Looming, Heres What to Know

Source: New York Times


MONICA ALMEIDA / THE NEW YORK TIMES
By BROOKS BARNES
APRIL 17, 2017
LOS ANGELES — The threat of a Hollywood strike is getting real.

On Wednesday, television and movie writers — roughly 12,000, all members of the Writers Guild of America — will begin voting on whether to authorize a walkout. The online vote will end on Monday. If members approve a strike, as they almost certainly will, and no pact with studios has been reached by May 1, fingers will stop typing and picketing will begin the next day.

A strike would have serious implications. When writers walked out a decade ago, the impasse cost the Los Angeles economy an estimated $2.5 billion. As production halted, income dried up not only for writers but also for set decorators, caterers, limo drivers and florists. Fans were not thrilled, either, as television schedules became a sea of reruns.

Longtime Hollywood power players — agents, studio executives, labor lawyers — put the chance at roughly 51 percent. But it changes by the day.

Tempers have cooled (a bit) over the past week, as negotiators for the Writers Guild and an organization that represents studios, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, have made progress on pay increases. But at least one radioactive issue remains unsettled: health care.

Read more: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/business/media/with-a-hollywood-writers-strike-looming-heres-what-to-know.html

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With a Hollywood Writers Strike Looming, Heres What to Know (Original Post) Sedona Apr 2017 OP
Writers are treated like dirt in Hollywood mainer Apr 2017 #1
+1 nt Javaman Apr 2017 #15
Yup, and if it's not on the page it's not on the stage TexasBushwhacker Apr 2017 #22
the last strike heralded the disgusting rise of "reality tv"--which gave us Trump, among other hlthe2b Apr 2017 #2
Yes that's what I remember FakeNoose Apr 2017 #5
"Reality" shows are massive money makers for studios. DK504 Apr 2017 #19
Writers should do what Mary Pickford did mainer Apr 2017 #20
Heroes was going on during the last strike. christx30 Apr 2017 #24
THE WRITERS' STRIKE KILLED T:TSCC! Orrex Apr 2017 #3
Had to look up what you meant by that acronym genxlib Apr 2017 #6
I enjoyed it and found it surprisingly credible despite mopey emo John Connor Orrex Apr 2017 #7
Never thought about it genxlib Apr 2017 #8
Yes! Orrex Apr 2017 #9
I remember the strike 30 years ago shenmue Apr 2017 #4
Fire them all and get new writers! Movie remakes is all they do, they suck! TV shows suck! Baclava Apr 2017 #10
There is some amazing TV these days... Adrahil Apr 2017 #11
OK - I confess - I watch The Americans, Mr Robot, The Expanse Baclava Apr 2017 #12
Also, Archer has amazing comic writing and christx30 Apr 2017 #25
I think The Americans is on Netflux. I need to watch that. Ilsa Apr 2017 #26
Well, since you put The expanse in with the others, I will check it out dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #27
You do know that it's the studios that decide which movies get made mainer Apr 2017 #17
OK - I'm in - Fire the producers! Baclava Apr 2017 #18
The issue is the studios who make the decisions TexasBushwhacker Apr 2017 #23
So, more "Reality TV" if the strike happens hatrack Apr 2017 #13
Great opportunity for women to demand equal pay! Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #14
There's really no one defending the rights of writers in Hollywood mainer Apr 2017 #16
In other news I'll be fishing with or without a strike. ileus Apr 2017 #21

mainer

(12,022 posts)
1. Writers are treated like dirt in Hollywood
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:47 AM
Apr 2017

The studios have exploited them forever. And Writers Guild is a studio enabler, giving away far too much.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
22. Yup, and if it's not on the page it's not on the stage
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:13 PM
Apr 2017

Carrie Fisher was an uncredited script doctor for many years, but she quit doing it because the studios were asking to "do us a favor" and punch up their dialogue FOR FREE.

Ultimately, strikes are always for the little guys. The writers making millions for their movie scripts will do fine, just like the actors who make big bucks. This is about the junior writers working on shows that don't get big ratings or limited run cable shows.

hlthe2b

(102,227 posts)
2. the last strike heralded the disgusting rise of "reality tv"--which gave us Trump, among other
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:57 AM
Apr 2017

horrors. Quality scripted tv became a rare commodity thereafter--damned near disappeared outside premium cable.

Just pay the writers what they are deserving! Enough.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
5. Yes that's what I remember
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 07:33 AM
Apr 2017

To this day I refuse to watch any "reality" show - they're all garbage.
But the previous writer's strike is what enabled that development.
What horrible things will come from this strike? I shudder to even think about it.

Why can't the writers raise the cash and buy their own network?
If they're in charge then they can pay themselves decently. The rest can go to hell.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
19. "Reality" shows are massive money makers for studios.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:59 AM
Apr 2017

To bad they can't throw the studio heads out the windows. How many f-ing 'Transformer" movies do we need to see? Seven 'Fat & Furious' movies, 'Beauty and the Beat' Spiderman' so on and so forth.

I haven't seen an original thought from these leeches in 20 years.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
20. Writers should do what Mary Pickford did
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:36 PM
Apr 2017

and start their own studio.

(Fed up with studio power, Pickford founded United Artists.)

Unfortunately, sociopaths always rise to the top and even companies that started with the best of intentions eventually get bought up by the sharks who own the larger, more powerful studios.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
24. Heroes was going on during the last strike.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:28 PM
Apr 2017

It's why Peter Patrelli's pretty Irish girlfriend is still in the horrific timeline to this day (RIP, pretty irish lady).
The strike basically killed a promising show, and turned it into nonsense. I didn't even watch the "season" that was released last year. It was garbage.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
6. Had to look up what you meant by that acronym
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:10 AM
Apr 2017

Man, my wife and I loved that show (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Cronicles)

Surprisingly well done sci-fi TV based on a classic movie series.

Worth a binge if anyone has not seen it.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
7. I enjoyed it and found it surprisingly credible despite mopey emo John Connor
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:18 AM
Apr 2017

More than a few misfires in the course of the series, but overall it was ambitious and entertaining.


Also, I like Summer Glau, but is it possible that she carries the Ted McKinley series-killing curse?

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
8. Never thought about it
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:34 AM
Apr 2017

But she has been in several cult hits that came to an early demise.

The real surprise of that show was Brian Austin Green as Reese. I had very low expectations of him as a 90210/Melrose alum. But I thought he was great.

Spoiler alert





To this day, his onscreen death is one of the most shocking and memorable.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
9. Yes!
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:36 AM
Apr 2017

I never watched 90210, and I didn't have a strong opinion about him one way or the other before this series, but holy moley he was great! Better by far than the supermodel they hired to stand in for his brother Kyle in Terminator:Genisys.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Fire them all and get new writers! Movie remakes is all they do, they suck! TV shows suck!
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:47 AM
Apr 2017

Can I say that here?

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. There is some amazing TV these days...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:00 AM
Apr 2017

I recommend:
The Americans
Fargo
Better Call Saul
The Expanse


...those are just a few. Many more out there.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
12. OK - I confess - I watch The Americans, Mr Robot, The Expanse
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:04 AM
Apr 2017

None are network tee-vee - I stopped watching that decades ago

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
27. Well, since you put The expanse in with the others, I will check it out
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:59 PM
Apr 2017

and also will raise you...Billions.
The Good Fight is another extraordinarily written series.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. You do know that it's the studios that decide which movies get made
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:25 AM
Apr 2017

and if the studios think a re-make of "Gilligan's Island" will be profitable, that's what they'll order the writers to write.

I say fire the stupid producers and bean counters and put the writers in charge.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
23. The issue is the studios who make the decisions
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:52 PM
Apr 2017

There are probably plenty of movie scripts and TV shows that are pitched and turned down because the studio heads don't know how to market them. The edgier stuff is on cable or streamed. Independent studios still make edgier stuff.

But the big studios and TV networks are publicy traded companies. They don't just care about annual results. It's all about the quarter. Decent movies get shelved and released straight to DVD because the studio decides to spend their marketing budget elsewhere. That's a shame.

Studios will continue to produce action and comic book movies because they spell FRANCHISE and that spells profits.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
16. There's really no one defending the rights of writers in Hollywood
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:18 AM
Apr 2017

When Art Buchwald sued Paramount for stealing "Coming to America," (Buchwald won), the Writers Guild did NOTHING for him during the lawsuit. Buchwald later spoke about how worthless they were. They are so completely bought by the studios that they have become a studio mouthpiece.

And they held onto millions of dollars that should have been paid out to their members:

In 2005, he brought a class-action lawsuit against the Writers Guild of America, West, alleging the union was improperly holding on to money that belonged to writers. Guild officials disputed the allegation, citing the difficulty of tracking down recipients, many of whom are deceased. Similar cases were brought against other unions, including one filed by “Leave It to Beaver” star Ken Osmond against the Screen Actors Guild.

“They had all these millions of dollars sitting in the bank and gathering interest, and if nobody forced them to do something it wouldn’t have gotten done,” Osmond says. “They were high and mighty and he [Johnson] just knocked them down a peg.”


http://www.jjllplaw.com/2015/06/25/go-to-l-a-lawyer-says-hollywood-studios-are-shortchanging-his-clients/
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