DNC chair says all Democrats must support abortion rights

[SecularMotion]

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Source: Christian Times

Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman Tom Perez caused some controversy after he declared on Friday that all Democrats should be pro-choice with no exceptions.

"Every Democrat, like every American, should support a woman's right to make her own choices about her body and her health," Perez said in a statement, according to Life News.

"That is not negotiable and should not change city by city or state by state. That is why I will be convening women leaders from across the country in the next week on how we can make sure our Democratic candidates and elected leaders are living up to these fundamental values," he added.

Read more: http://www.christiantimes.com/article/dnc-chair-says-all-democrats-must-support-abortion-rights/72059.htm

[Squinch]

1. Thank God! I would ask how this even became a question, but I guess we all know how.

[WhiteTara]

4. Damn! Of course the thing that gave me hope was fake

news. I can only hope he'll see this and say, yes, that is true.

[still_one]

6. It is twisting Perez's words. Here is his exact quote from a reputable paper

"Every Democrat, like every American, should support a woman’s right to make her own choices about her body and her health," Perez said in a statement, according to the Huffington Post. "That is not negotiable and should not change city by city or state by state."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/24/democrats-self-inflicted-abortion-mess/?utm_term=.fa11e1d5d9c0

This is NOT the same thing that the OP is saying

[SecularMotion]

10. The source is christiantimes.com

not christiantimesnewspaper.com

and while the title may not be a direct quote, it is not a distortion of his words

[still_one]

19. got it, I will self-delete above, thanks for point out the error

[SecularMotion]

21. It appears the fake news site "christiantimesnewspaper.com" is shut down

but they still run a Facebook page

[still_one]

22. My first response to you should have been an apology. I am very sorry

I should have been looking more carefully

[WhiteTara]

3. Go Tom Perez!

I like him even more today than I did yesterday.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

5. If it's true

'Bout stinkin' time!

[still_one]

8. Here is the WashingtonPost version

Last edited Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:13 PM - Edit history (1)

"Every Democrat, like every American, should support a woman’s right to make her own choices about her body and her health," Perez said in a statement, according to the Huffington Post. "That is not negotiable and should not change city by city or state by state."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/24/democrats-self-inflicted-abortion-mess/?utm_term=.fa11e1d5d9c0

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

25. I'll take it

Thanks

[demmiblue]

7. Do you have a better source?

[still_one]

9. Here is the WashingtonPost version

Last edited Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:22 PM - Edit history (2)

"Every Democrat, like every American, should support a woman’s right to make her own choices about her body and her health," Perez said in a statement, according to the Huffington Post. "That is not negotiable and should not change city by city or state by state."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/24/democrats-self-inflicted-abortion-mess/?utm_term=.fa11e1d5d9c0

[trueblue2007]

11. i do not think we should remove people from our party.

If a person says they are a DEMOCRAT who is another to "read their mind" to say they aren't?

I don't think we should choose 1 thing on which to exclude people. And I have been proud to call myself pro-choice for 50 + years.

[bekkilyn]

13. Can't force people out of the party, but

doesn't mean we have to support them and/or fund their campaigns. But sure, anyone can have whatever letter they want next to their names, but if they don't support basic human rights, then we don't support them. Period.

[appal_jack]

26. Yes.

The (actual) Perez quote above works for me, and I agree with you that Democrats allocate Party support on important issues such as Choice and Reproductive Health.

k&r,

-app

[athena]

43. Do you also feel that way about child labor?

After all it's just "1 thing on which to exclude people."

So is slavery, by the way.

The fact that anyone sees the right to not be forced itno a dangerous medical procedure against one's will as "just one issue" shows that too many people still don't understand that "women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights."

[bekkilyn]

12. Absolutely

No idea why this would even be controversial in the first place. Regardless of how one personally feels about abortion, it's a medical decision, not a government decision.

[George II]

15. Did you forget this?

[BumRushDaShow]

18. The issue is this

I have no problem with Democrats who have their own "personal" beliefs/practices regarding abortions - there are plenty.

However no "Democrat" should sponsor or support legislation that RESTRICTS or otherwise hinders someone else's right to "choose" options with respect to a woman's body.

That is the beauty of "choice". The individual chooses what action they take.

[trueblue2007]

20. i totally agree with your post. thank you.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. There are a good number

of Catholics and others in Congress who are against abortion. Back during the final ACA legislation debate and final amendment-crafting phase in 2010, there were 17 Democrats aligned with Bart Stupak who made their intentions known regarding their beliefs and that held up the final passage of pt2 of the ACA. The issue was resolved via the promise of an E.O. by Obama reiterating the Hyde Amendment (no federal funding for abortions), which was already included as an amendment to the ACA.

There are many Democrats who want the Hyde Amendment (which was first drafted and first used in 1976 and has been used as a rider for the next 40 years) to go away completely. I expect it would be a big contentious battle to eliminate it entirely... but it sits as a compromise at this point.

[Squinch]

28. Yes. I know many who would not do it themselves. I have no problem with that.

I only have a problem when they cross the line and say I have to live my life and conduct my body according to their beliefs.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. Right - notably sponsoring legislation that restricts what I can do with my body!

[Squinch]

30. Yep.

[Chemisse]

35. I agree, but during a campaign,

If they want to share their anti-choice views, they should pledge or commit to not sponsor or support legislation, once elected, in order to be supported by the Dem Party.

[BumRushDaShow]

42. Correct. nt

[shenmue]

16. Yes

[retrowire]

23. Cool by me. Nt

[WoonTars]

27. Absolutely.

Tired of waffling on this basic civil rights issue.

[That Guy 888]

31. What's he going to do about the prominent anti-abortion Dems already serving.

Manchin and Kaine are two right off the top of my head.

If they can get this endorsed, there are some more "purity tests" that I'd like to see.

Stronger environmental regulations especially a fracking ban and a ban on leaky pipelines(there are no pipelines that don't leak).

Break up the too-big-to-fail banking institutions, even if they contribute heavily to the Democratic Party.

No Democratic candidate should support pay-day lenders. (no, at the interest rates they charge they aren't trying to help people who can't get traditional loans)

Support a national law against anti-lgbtq discrimination.

More science based legislation

Better wages - too many Democratic lawmakers lack understanding of living conditions beyond The Beltway.

Independent investigations of police shootings.

A law like the UK has that puts limitations on police interrogations - ie. must be filmed, police forbidden to lie to the suspect, limited time of two hours before the suspect gets a break.

There are a lot of great ideas, but overly cautious Democratic leaders want to play safe with moderate Republican ideas (ACA from the Heritage Foundation, "Ending Welfare as we know it" etc)

[Demit]

32. I see you would like to change the subject. Maybe you should start your own thread?

[That Guy 888]

34. What is he going to do about current Democratic office holders that are anti-abortion?

Is he going to lay down the law for them?

In case I'm not being clear, I'm pro-choice and wouldn't have any problem if that became a standard for everyone seeking office as a Democrat. I'm glad that he says he wants it to be non-negotiable from now on.

So I'm not changing the topic. I don't see how it is.

[lapucelle]

36. Kaine supports a woman's right to choose

and has a 100% rating from NARAL. He is a pro choice politician who is personally and privately pro life.

"I have a traditional Catholic personal position, but I am very strongly supportive that women should make these decisions and government shouldn't intrude," Kaine told CNN. "I'm a strong supporter of Roe v. Wade and women being able to make these decisions. In government, we have enough things to worry about. We don't need to make people's reproductive decisions for them."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/tim-kaine-abortion-roe-v-wade/index.html

[That Guy 888]

39. Kaine supports a woman's right to choose ...now - FIFY

Kaine didn't support a women's right to choose all of his career. He still is in favor of banning abortions after the first trimester. He signed into law informed consent laws. He has stated that if it could be proven that life begins at conception, that he would be in favor of outlawing contraceptives. He supported a ban on "partial birth abortions". He promoted abstinence education instead of comprehensive actual sex education. He has generally been moderately anti-abortion until he finally noticed it wasn't going to win him any votes in national Democratic politics.

Check http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Tim_Kaine_Abortion.htm and scroll down to when he was running for Senate in 2012, and his record as Governor.

[lapucelle]

41. I'm aware of Tim Kaine's perspective and history

on this issue, as is NARAL. Saying that Kaine and Mello hold the same view is dangerously inaccurate.

For some politicians, women's health decision autonomy and saner gun laws are secondary to other issues. We have a right to know that information and, as voters, decide whether they are secondary to us as well. Different people have different lines in the sand.

E. Warren endorsed Perriello earlier this week in VA, which surprised him and disappointed others due to his record on guns and choice. Warren has a professional history with Perriello and admires his consumer advocacy record. She prioritized her issues and decided which candidate to get behind. It was a very smart move in terms of Democratic party politics because it reminds voters that we are a big tent, we do have differences, and in the end we are one party. She cut the "us versus them " narrative off at the knees.

Selectively demanding perfection from some candidates while ignoring the imperfections of others helped elect Trump in November. People have to stop doing it.

[Greybnk48]

33. AGREE 100% n/t

[sharedvalues]

37. From lifenews.com. They hate democrats and hate pro-choice.

lifenews is trying to divide democrats.

Check out some headlines from lifenews.com and then figure out if you want to post their articles on DU. (Christian Times is just quoting lifenews)

Just now, from lifenews front page:

- Planned Parenthood Doc Who Wanted Lamborghini for Selling Aborted Babies Caught Selling Baby Parts Again
- Bill Nye Trashes People With Large Families, Wants Them Penalized for Having “Extra Kids”
- Democrats for Life Leader Slams Democrat Chair for Saying Pro-Life Democrats Aren’t Welcome
(Note: "Democrat&quot
- Man Texted Pregnant Girlfriend: “If You Don’t Have an Abortion I Will Punch Your F—— Head In” Abortion, coercion and abuse are connected much more often than people probably realize.
- WATCH: Cackling Abortion Activist With a Cowbell Confronts Pro-Life Pastors Outside Abortion Clinic
- Abortionist Whistled Show Tunes While Vacuum Suctioned Out the Unborn Baby WASHINGTON, DC | 4/26/17
This is a story told by Heather, from Tennessee. She describes how the abortionist whistled show tunes as he did her abortion


Do you want to cite or read news from this site on DU? Lifenews doesn't like what we stand for and they want to divide us.

[Tatiana]

38. This will not help us win in the South.

I'm just saying. Plays great on the coasts, but if we want to employ a 50-state strategy and become competitive in the South and other conservative areas, we will need to be inclusive of candidates that are pro-life.

There is a HUGE constituency of Americans that votes regularly in most elections -- these are fairly moderate women who are also pro-life. Just enough of these people voted for Trump to help him ascend to the Presidency. I'm not comfortable writing them off without having a dialogue.

[athena]

44. A dialogue about basic human rights?

Do you also want to have a dialogue with them about slavery? Because most of those people are probably also in favor of slavery. I'm sure that if the Democratic Party decided to bring back slavery, it would gain many votes in the South.

[truthisfreedom]

40. We've got to reword that into what it really is. Women's Constitutional Health Rights.

Force them to face it.

[DonViejo]

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