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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:35 PM May 2017

GOP senators reject Trump's call to end the filibuster

Source: Politico



‘Our country needs a good “shutdown” in September to fix mess!’ Trump tweets.

By BURGESS EVERETT , SEUNG MIN KIM and LOUIS NELSON 05/02/17 09:31 AM EDT

President Donald Trump on Tuesday seemingly called for an end to the legislative filibuster in the Senate, frustrated that Republicans were unable to include his policy goals in a must-pass spending bill. He also suggested that a government shutdown in September might be “good” in order to accomplish more without interference from Democrats. Senate Republicans responded by rejecting Trump swiftly and decisively.

Founding Fathers set it up this way," said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.), who's been in Washington about three weeks longer than Trump. "It's worked for centuries. It can still work. We don't have a rule problem, we've got a people problem."

"He and I differ on that because without the filibuster this country would've been gone a long time ago," said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), the most senior GOP senator. "I'm gonna talk to him about it. I'll get him back on line."

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill managed to avoid the imminent threat of a government shutdown late last week and over the weekend, first passing a stop-gap one-week funding bill and then agreeing on a deal to fund the government through the end of September. And the GOP is desperate to avoid shutdown this year while controlling all levers of Washington. "I don't think the American people elected president Trump and Republican majorities in both houses to shut down the government. I think they expected us to govern. And that's what we're doing," said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas).

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/trump-tweet-government-shutdown-237870

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GOP senators reject Trump's call to end the filibuster (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
I thought they nuked the filibuster to get gorsuch in? TalenaGor May 2017 #1
That's just for Supreme Court nominees, not for legislation. hedda_foil May 2017 #2
wow ok I had no idea TY - so how many different ones are there? TalenaGor May 2017 #8
There's only one kind of filibuster. hedda_foil May 2017 #9
awesome thanks! I do remember that happening now! TalenaGor May 2017 #10
The right of the minority to be heard bucolic_frolic May 2017 #3
Well, that was fast. Eugene May 2017 #4
Others have said (and I agree) that the Congressional Republicans have gotten what they wanted from Still In Wisconsin May 2017 #6
"I think they expected us to govern" BumRushDaShow May 2017 #5
Trump thinks he'll be declared Turbineguy May 2017 #7

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
1. I thought they nuked the filibuster to get gorsuch in?
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:38 PM
May 2017

or am I confused? was that not a permanent nuking?

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
9. There's only one kind of filibuster.
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:53 PM
May 2017

There have been two exceptions just in the past few years.

When the Republican majority Senate blocked all of Obama's judicial nominees and executive appointments by filibustering them, then Majority Leader Harry Reid pushed through a procedural vote to require only a 51 vote majority for judges below the Supreme Court level and presidential nominees.

This article explains why that happened.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/charts-explain-why-democrats-went-nuclear-filibuster

McConnell became Majority Leader in 2014. When Trump nominated Gorsuch and the Democrats were set to filibuster, McConnell did the same thing as Reid did, but for S.C. nominations.

The filibuster is still applicable for all legislation except for budget reconciliation bills. That's why the Republicans are hoping to undo Obamacare through the reconciliation process. I hope this helps.

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
3. The right of the minority to be heard
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:44 PM
May 2017

is an integral part of the Freedom of Speech

That's why it's not 51%

Eugene

(61,846 posts)
4. Well, that was fast.
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:45 PM
May 2017

Trump does not have a clue about how to govern,
and his fellow Republicans can't cover for
him anymore.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
6. Others have said (and I agree) that the Congressional Republicans have gotten what they wanted from
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:56 PM
May 2017

Trump: Gorsuch on the SC. Other than the possibility of another SC opening, I really don't think they care all that much what Trump wants.

BumRushDaShow

(128,734 posts)
5. "I think they expected us to govern"
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:54 PM
May 2017

It ain't gonna happen. Yours is the party of "no". You have said it so many times in the past that it is like CRT screen burn-in. It's all you can see (and do).

And Hatch would be wasting his time talking to the box of rocks in the oval office.

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