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oldcynic

(385 posts)
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:31 PM May 2017

There are diseases hidden in the ice, and they are waking up

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by hrmjustin (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: BBC


Long-dormant bacteria and viruses, trapped in ice and permafrost for centuries, are reviving as Earth's climate warms.



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up



...and climate change is a hoax
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There are diseases hidden in the ice, and they are waking up (Original Post) oldcynic May 2017 OP
This is very dangerous for all of us. Stuart G May 2017 #1
Those would be pre-existing conditions bigbrother05 May 2017 #2
it's not funny. Why am I laughing? oldcynic May 2017 #7
You little monster. murielm99 May 2017 #18
LOL I wish! mdbl May 2017 #45
lol dammit. lol. JHan May 2017 #27
Well hell. MontanaMama May 2017 #32
Immune System Strength... blue sky at night May 2017 #3
Yes, following the food pyramid and moderate exercise wiped out Polio. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #5
Thank God grantcart May 2017 #35
Yeah, but what about modern medicine? Iggo May 2017 #14
I heard smallpox was wiped out by ginkgo supplements and yoga NickB79 May 2017 #33
You are dangerously misinformed... Moostache May 2017 #34
Their argument is a false dilemma Wednesdays May 2017 #44
Ferfuxsake, dude. Codeine May 2017 #38
this is a terrifying article.... dhill926 May 2017 #4
I read something similar many years ago, and details are hazy, spiderpig May 2017 #6
See my post #40, spiderpig. sarge43 May 2017 #41
This is some horror fiction plot level shit here. retrowire May 2017 #8
That it is. tenorly May 2017 #9
There's also a very cool series called Fortitude, that touches on this premise... petronius May 2017 #10
Ah. Thanks. tenorly May 2017 #11
Just finished season 2. Inkfreak May 2017 #29
I did not see last season NewJeffCT May 2017 #42
Okay now I'm worried about this thawing out. duncang May 2017 #12
Ah. So THAT's what Trump and Bannon are. tenorly May 2017 #24
Make the World Great Again! IronLionZion May 2017 #13
+ 1 red dog 1 May 2017 #21
The Chicxulub impact taught them a lesson about climate change all right as it cstanleytech May 2017 #22
Sounds like "Fortitude." (No spoliers, please. I'm only on Season 1 Episode 7.) (n/t) Iggo May 2017 #15
Just hope the worst elmac May 2017 #16
omg n/t orleans May 2017 #17
This is how the zombie apocalypse starts nt Javaman May 2017 #19
So what makes this LBN worthy exactly? Is it because there is the potential for some cstanleytech May 2017 #20
K&R red dog 1 May 2017 #23
Pre-existing Conditions ashling May 2017 #25
This is what happened as the rain forest was depleted. louis-t May 2017 #26
If the republicans succeed Turbineguy May 2017 #28
Slime in the Ice Machine! Xipe Totec May 2017 #30
Cool. Perfect timing for when many of us lose affordable health care. calimary May 2017 #31
I think about half of the US is not vaccinated against smallpox LeftInTX May 2017 #36
When the next epidemic hits.... MicaelS May 2017 #37
At this point im rooting for the viruses. briv1016 May 2017 #39
It isn't only ancient bacteria and viruses sarge43 May 2017 #40
Maybe some frozen Velociraptors will come back to life... benpollard May 2017 #43
twump will just put a T-Rex over the white house secret service mdbl May 2017 #46
what was that Gore Vidal novel about a virus or something that wipes out humanity... dhill926 May 2017 #47
Apologies but locking. hrmjustin May 2017 #48

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
1. This is very dangerous for all of us.
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:32 PM
May 2017

Nothing more to add.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
2. Those would be pre-existing conditions
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:35 PM
May 2017

oldcynic

(385 posts)
7. it's not funny. Why am I laughing?
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:03 PM
May 2017

murielm99

(32,823 posts)
18. You little monster.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:40 PM
May 2017

(Actually, I LOL'ed). At this point, what else can we do?

The Blob is up there too. Will it stay cold enough to contain it? Can we teach The Blob to eat only republicans?

mdbl

(8,282 posts)
45. LOL I wish!
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:55 PM
May 2017

JHan

(10,173 posts)
27. lol dammit. lol.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:07 PM
May 2017

MontanaMama

(24,644 posts)
32. Well hell.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:37 PM
May 2017

I just laughed. Didn't think anything could lighten my dark mood today. 😆

blue sky at night

(3,312 posts)
3. Immune System Strength...
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:40 PM
May 2017

If you aren't doing things everyday to boost yours you may want to rethink your personal health regime...What we eat and drink can and does make a difference. I am not putting any faith in "modern medicine"...for the most part they don't understand shit about viruses and unfriendly bacteria and how they affect us everyday.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. Yes, following the food pyramid and moderate exercise wiped out Polio.
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:54 PM
May 2017

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
35. Thank God
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:50 PM
May 2017

{couldn't resist your first-class snark}

Iggo

(49,759 posts)
14. Yeah, but what about modern medicine?
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:23 PM
May 2017

I'm with you. I wouldn't trust anything called "modern medicine", either.

But what about actual modern medicine?

NickB79

(20,280 posts)
33. I heard smallpox was wiped out by ginkgo supplements and yoga
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:39 PM
May 2017

And soldiers in WW2 were saved from gangrene by homeopathic chi realignments.

Fuck that vaccination and antibiotics bullshit, right?

Moostache

(11,094 posts)
34. You are dangerously misinformed...
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

Oh FFS...Please stop spouting pseudoscience in disguise.

Bacteria and virology are VERY well understood and are being further explored heroically around the world every day to protect people like you from yourself.

The benefits of a good exercise program (or maintaining an optimal body weight or more specifically an optimal body mass index) are well known, but they do absolutely nothing to help a person avoid infection from an opportunistic pathogen, and if you are ever infected with a bacteria that we have no known drugs to treat with, well that will be the end of you....and it could happen from something as innocuous as a cut finger if you are terribly unlucky.

"Modern medicine" (and the also I'm sure unpopular "Modern agriculture&quot is largely responsible for the rise in life expectancy from the early 20th century mid-50's to 60's to the current mid-70's to 80's. That is not "knowing nothing"...

Wednesdays

(21,918 posts)
44. Their argument is a false dilemma
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:45 PM
May 2017

It is possible to eat and drink things to boost one's immune system, AND put one's trust in modern medicine.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Ferfuxsake, dude.
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:08 PM
May 2017

Take that nonsense back to NaturalNews and let the adults talk.

dhill926

(16,953 posts)
4. this is a terrifying article....
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:48 PM
May 2017

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
6. I read something similar many years ago, and details are hazy,
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:02 PM
May 2017

but it had to do with the discovery of a sailor who had died of influenza during the huge WWI outbreak and been buried in permafrost/ice/whatever and his remains were being handled like hazmat.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
41. See my post #40, spiderpig.
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:24 PM
May 2017

It's a real concern and potential disaster.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
8. This is some horror fiction plot level shit here.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017

But it's not fiction.

Creepy!

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
9. That it is.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:08 PM
May 2017

A 2009 horror flick, The Thaw, dealt with the very premise. Not for the faint of heart.

petronius

(26,695 posts)
10. There's also a very cool series called Fortitude, that touches on this premise...
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:13 PM
May 2017

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
11. Ah. Thanks.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:18 PM
May 2017

Who knows what other dangers lurk beneath all that ice (massive amounts of methane, 20 feet+ sea level rise...). But we don't dare try to mitigate it because some Big Oil billionaire may have one less billion dollars to brag about at the next orgy.

It's a wonder we've made it this far.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
29. Just finished season 2.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:26 PM
May 2017

A tad confusing and not quite as good as season 1. But interesting as hell.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
42. I did not see last season
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:31 PM
May 2017

but The Last Ship on TBS dealt with something like this - over 90% of the world ended up getting wiped out by some sort of plague released from either the Arctic or Antarctic.

duncang

(3,767 posts)
12. Okay now I'm worried about this thawing out.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:20 PM
May 2017

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
24. Ah. So THAT's what Trump and Bannon are.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:02 PM
May 2017

Figures.

IronLionZion

(51,001 posts)
13. Make the World Great Again!
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:23 PM
May 2017

Dinosaurs didn't believe in climate change either.

red dog 1

(32,701 posts)
21. + 1
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:53 PM
May 2017

TRump is a dinosaur.

cstanleytech

(28,312 posts)
22. The Chicxulub impact taught them a lesson about climate change all right as it
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:55 PM
May 2017

had a global impact.

Iggo

(49,759 posts)
15. Sounds like "Fortitude." (No spoliers, please. I'm only on Season 1 Episode 7.) (n/t)
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
May 2017

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elmac

(4,642 posts)
16. Just hope the worst
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:28 PM
May 2017

preys on the uber rich and fascists.

orleans

(36,737 posts)
17. omg n/t
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:37 PM
May 2017

Javaman

(65,417 posts)
19. This is how the zombie apocalypse starts nt
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:42 PM
May 2017

cstanleytech

(28,312 posts)
20. So what makes this LBN worthy exactly? Is it because there is the potential for some
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:46 PM
May 2017

unknown virus? If so then I hate to break it to you but such potential for some unknown virus has always been with us and ones that were dormant suddenly thawing after a few thousand years is kind of a big yawn.
Even if we were talking millions of years I would tend to yawn as well because its just not that likely to have a major impact on life, in fact if I was going to worry about something more it would be about an asteroid of roughly the same mass as the one that helped kill the dinosaurs and I am not worried about that happening either.
Edit: Now if you want to really worry about something regarding climate change and the melting of the glaciers then I would be worried about everyone that lives on or near the coasts worldwide plus the shift in weather thats bound to create droughts in areas that we humans depend on for producing most of our food.

red dog 1

(32,701 posts)
23. K&R
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

TRump is a hoax.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
25. Pre-existing Conditions
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:03 PM
May 2017

louis-t

(24,583 posts)
26. This is what happened as the rain forest was depleted.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:05 PM
May 2017

It may be where AIDS came from.

Turbineguy

(39,913 posts)
28. If the republicans succeed
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:17 PM
May 2017

we'll have a nice epidemic.

They're not happy until you're not happy.

Xipe Totec

(44,508 posts)
30. Slime in the Ice Machine!
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:28 PM
May 2017

calimary

(89,295 posts)
31. Cool. Perfect timing for when many of us lose affordable health care.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:31 PM
May 2017

Cherry on top of the shit sundae that the small-minded and willfully ignorant love to serve to everybody. Small comfort in that they'll be forced to eat some of it, too.

These don't care what color you are or where you came from, where you live, or the "right" kind of papers or how many guns you have. And they won't care what your last name is, including trump and putin.

Frankly, I hope I'm gone before the polar bears are.

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
36. I think about half of the US is not vaccinated against smallpox
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:56 PM
May 2017

Here's a funny story:

My son and I were watching a movie, the actor had a nasty vaccination scar.
I pointed it out.

My son says: Mom, I always notice it on you and thought it was a birth defect or something..LOL

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
37. When the next epidemic hits....
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:59 PM
May 2017

The anti-vaxxers and their offspring will be the first to go.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
39. At this point im rooting for the viruses.
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:13 PM
May 2017

Humans are the problem. This is mother nature's way of fixing it.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
40. It isn't only ancient bacteria and viruses
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:17 PM
May 2017

For example, victims of the flu pandemic of 1918 who lived in the extreme north, Siberia or Alaska were buried in the tundra. Their bodies froze and the virus went dormant. Now that the tundra is warming, ...

benpollard

(261 posts)
43. Maybe some frozen Velociraptors will come back to life...
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:35 PM
May 2017

... and attack the White House.

mdbl

(8,282 posts)
46. twump will just put a T-Rex over the white house secret service
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:59 PM
May 2017

to protect him.

dhill926

(16,953 posts)
47. what was that Gore Vidal novel about a virus or something that wipes out humanity...
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:04 PM
May 2017

Kalki?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
48. Apologies but locking.
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:48 PM
May 2017

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